Comics New X-Men: Academy X

[Chamber_UK]

Okay first of all i love Emma, and hope she NEVER goes.

Considering the depowered New X-Men Characters, and missing/injured ones that we know aren't in the final cut...this is what i think is going to happen to them...

Dani -
Since she's now human, i reckon she's going to go back to work for SHIELD, and this may put her at odds with the New X-Men in the future.

Wither -
Since he's dissappeared i think he's going to come back as a villain...hopefully not for a year or two, to insure impact.

Icarus -
I reckon he's going to die...but with mysterious circumstances that is going to aludde to him actually really being a true 'angel'. Thus leaving room for a possible reincarnation. Remember there have always been many biblical connections with him, Angel, and Nightcrawler.

Wallflower -
I reckon she is going to get seriously injured during the Stryker conflict and is going to remain in a coma (ala ultimate dazzler) at the institute. Providing a future storyline for when she 'awakes'.

Wind Dancer -
I reckon she's actually going to be the one to serve the function that everybody thinks either Prodigy or Wallflower are going to serve. As the 'human' love interest for Hellion. I reckon he's going to try and see her as much as possible, and her personality is going to be very stand offish, hurt and complex. Ultimatly though i reckon she's going to be written out eventually.

Prodigy -
Him and Nori are soo gonna break up. I can soo see it now, Nori goes to Empire State University to visit him and finds that he's meet another nice ex-Mutant girl to be with instead.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Ah, okay. Not a bad idea. In fact I'm still annoyed that Dani was forced to leave by Emma. She had better be going evil and as a result some of her decisions are voided. That would have been a great role for Dani, in fact that's what she already was and could have easily continued it.

That was pretty mean but what do you expect from Emma. Why the hell is she still in charge, apart from the fact that she's sleeping with Scott?

 

[FieryBalrog]

What mutant isn't a plot device?

"Gee, we really could use some sort of smoke screen or fog to cover our exit. Hey, Storm's here!"

True. Its just that his healing abilities are usually tailored to what the plot requires. If someone needs to stay injured, his healing abilities suck. If someone needs to get repaired, his healing abilities jump through the roof.

 

[Chamber_UK]

Emma's in charge for various reasons...

-She's is a qualified headmistress...remember this is a school after all. Yes the others are qualified as 'teachers', but she is qualified to be a headmistress.

-Frost Enterprises was revealed to be on of the Xavier estates financial funders, so she does have say in how things are run.

-Charles specificly choose Scott & Emma to be incharge.

-And she is sleeping with Scott.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Emma's in charge for various reasons...

-She's is a qualified headmistress...remember this is a school after all. Yes the others are qualified as 'teachers', but she is qualified to be a headmistress.

But she has a long history of being an evil headmistress and being willing to sacrifice her students. Look at the recent gladiator-style arena she made the New X-men kids go through. Thats hardly a responsible headmistress. And she killed her sister while she was in charge of Gen X.

I'm not saying she hasn't been a teacher before, but I dont think she's the right to person to be the overall leader of Xavier's school, especially when she doesnt even believe in his ideals. Why would you leave someone who is morally ambiguous in charge of Xavier's school of KIDS? The whole interesting thing about Emma is that she is morally ambiguous.

-Frost Enterprises was revealed to be on of the Xavier estates financial funders, so she does have say in how things are run.

A lot of people fund Xavier but they dont run the school.

-Charles specificly choose Scott & Emma to be incharge.

Where was that? Charles hasn't had anything to do with the school in 2 years. Basically Scott made her de facto headmistress because they're an item.

-And she is sleeping with Scott.

There ya go, real reason. The writers wouldnt have made her headmistress if it weren't for this, I'm pretty positive.

 

[Chamber_UK]

But she has a long history of being an evil headmistress and being willing to sacrifice her students. Look at the recent gladiator-style arena she made the New X-men kids go through. Thats hardly a responsible headmistress. And she killed her sister while she was in charge of Gen X.

I'm not saying she hasn't been a teacher before, but I dont think she's the right to person to be the overall leader of Xavier's school, especially when she doesnt even believe in his ideals. Why would you leave someone who is morally ambiguous in charge of Xavier's school of KIDS? The whole interesting thing about Emma is that she is morally ambiguous.

Evil is soo relative. Emma's mission in life has ALWAYS been putting mutants as the rightful rulers of the world (like Magneto). But unlike Magneto, who sees humans as a threat and should be destroyed. Emma sees them as a race who will eventually die out and become them, and until then should be humoured and intergrated (she does see a purpose in protecting humans).

Emma's philosophy in teaching/protecting the students is alot different to Xaviers (in my opinion better). She doesn't believe in 'mommy coddling' the students, and protecting them. She believes in teaching them to protect themselves, If they want to survive they have defend themselves, she's aware that not all will survive (like her hellions/some genxers). But for that they have to be trained to stand their own ground.

Yes her morals and the way she goes about thing is ambiguous, but that doesn't mean her intentions aren't admirable. She killed her sister because, she was trying to hurt her students. Her morals are not that different from Wolverines, but you don't here people accussing him of being 'evil'.

A lot of people fund Xavier but they dont run the school.

Maybe their not interested in controling it, but the fact that she does fund it means she does have some influence.

Charles hasn't had anything to do with the school in 2 years. Basically Scott made her de facto headmistress because they're an item.

After Jean died, School destroyed 'again', and Cyclops considered leaving. It was Emma who organised everybody to start again for the sake of the students. Also Emma said in Astonishing X-Men #1 'Xaviers not here! He left US in charge!'.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Evil is soo relative. Emma's mission in life has ALWAYS been putting mutants as the rightful rulers of the world (like Magneto). But unlike Magneto, who sees humans as a threat and should be destroyed. Emma sees them as a race who will eventually die out and become them, and until then should be humoured and intergrated (she does see a purpose in protecting humans).

Emma's philosophy in teaching/protecting the students is alot different to Xaviers (in my opinion better). She doesn't believe in 'mommy coddling' the students, and protecting them. She believes in teaching them to protect themselves, If they want to survive they have defend themselves, she's aware that not all will survive (like her hellions/some genxers). But for that they have to be trained to stand their own ground.

Yes her morals and the way she goes about thing is ambiguous, but that doesn't mean her intentions aren't admirable. She killed her sister because, she was trying to hurt her students. Her morals are not that different from Wolverines, but you don't here people accussing him of being 'evil'.

Except a) Wolverine TRIES to be a decent guy (you dont know about his morals if you think they're similar to Emmas) and b) He isn't in charge of the school for a reason. I agree that Emma has a different philosophy that is much more morally ambiguous (I didnt say evil except to refer to her Hellions days, when she was actually evil). I dont think someone like that should be HEADMISTRESS of the whole school though. And I certainly dont think the other X-men would abide by it just because Scott's sleeping with her. Storm in particular should have been outraged, because a) she's been a leader for years, and here is Emma stepping all over her role b) she's an idealist and Emma tramples all over those ideals and c) she has a deep and bitter vendetta with Emma.

Also evil may be relative, but the Hellfire Club hits all the right definitions. Magneto is pretty evil- he's a mutant supremacist- but at least he's an idealist. The HFC is just greed and power. That's evil.

After Jean died, School destroyed 'again', and Cyclops considered leaving. It was Emma who organised everybody to start again for the sake of the students. Also Emma said in Astonishing X-Men #1 'Xaviers not here! He left US in charge!'.

As a de facto thing, yes, by the fact Charles left them to do whatever. Xavier didn't even speak to them until AXM 12.

 

[Chamber_UK]

I mean before the whole AXM series.

And don't forget she is the one who started rebuidling the school.

 

[ghost113]

emma is evil
wolverine is just confused and a badass
truthfully I don't care about emma i'm more into the students considering this is their book. but i did not like the whole half her squad becoming the new team even if they were better than the rest of the students.
I'm hoping these writers do something with the rest of the students like have them go up to scott and talk to him about having another squad made, with match and wolf cub leading them.

 

[Effect]

I would have liked to have seen two squads as well, at least merging of the 4 squads with the mutants that weren't depowered. Two squads merge into one.

Here's what I don't get though. From issues 1 to 19 there was mostly a New Mutants focus series. Now I like that, and like that Dani was their leader. The intereaction with the Hellions as rivals was good I feel. What I don't get, after all that development and focus, whey did things suddenly start having a Hellion focus cause that's just what happen I feel due to the numbers of Hellions on this new team with Nori and Elixer being the only New Mutants.

I thought New X-men was to be a continuation of the New Mutants series, just with the name change? Or is it a Generation X sequal now due to Emma's team taking the forfront?

Was this a change due to the writers or was there any hint that this change was due to a editorial change in how the story/title was to be done? Cause you don't just remove the focus from most of your main cast on to another group without there being a big decision or reason I think. If the New Mutant focus was good enough to carry 18 issues, why the change or was there a dislike for that team?

 

[JewishHobbit]

I think the new writers who took over at Decimation said they wanted a team whose both visually appealing, and who would make "kick butt" x-men some day. They felt the team they chose would be the best x-men in training team.

 

[Effect]

Wonder if they went for the more offensive powered team when they thought "kick butt" instead of what the team dynamic could possiblely do in the future (storyline wise, which should lead into action wise)?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Truthfully, I don't mind the new line up, in fact I kinda like it. I do think that most of the Hellions were better characters than the New Mutants overall, but I wish there could have been a smoother transaction. Though I loved a lot of characters and I'm sad more of them aren't around, the only one I really wish wasn't depowered and stayed on the line up was Prodigy. He was a great character that I miss. And him being on the team would have made the Hellions/New Mutants ratio a little better.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Dont get much more offensive than Elixir... oh wait there is Jazz

 

[Chamber_UK]

All i'm happy about is that Mercury and Dust are major characters now. There my favorite.

 

[ghost113]

Iv'e mentioned these before but what kind and who do you guys think their villians are going to be.

 

[Chamber_UK]

ermmmmm....Stryker?

 

[ghost113]

besides the craptacular Stryker

 

[JewishHobbit]

Stryker's a good villain, provided that he isn't overplayed, and he hasn't been overall, so so far he's good.

I think Wither will eventually return as a villain, and Pierce will probably be back at some point.

Other than that, it's hard for me to imagine them facing many super villains. I picture them facing things more along the lines of hate organizations and such,... though if the writers want to write them as the next generation of X-Men, they'll have to play some type of super villain card.

 

[Specter313]

MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT ISSUE(seriously, don't look if you don't wanna know):

Spoiler

Elixir is kicked off of the squad and the "next to fall" is Wallflower.

 

[ghost113]

And how do you know this specter?

 

[Specter313]

And how do you know this specter?

Some users on the board at Uncannyxmen.net get early spoilers, like early preview editions of the issues, and they have never been wrong.

 

[ghost113]

well that sucks for both of them.

 

[Chamber_UK]

Maybe this has been the writers ploy, we've know the final team for quite a while now and have assumed that all the others are getting bumped off. Maybe its a trick and they plan on dumping Elixir and replacing him with someone else. Who do reckon it will be? Its obviously gonna be a male since the team is already female dominant. Hopefully its Anole.

 

[ghost113]

Or maybe match.