Nightwing . . . Should he be in 'Titans' or should he be solo?

[TwilightPro101]

I honestly think a live action tv series featuring Nightwing could suceed if done properly.

I feel the same.

 

[UndyingPhoenix]

Zac is 20 now. Too old for Tim Drake

but he still has his boyish looks lol. Which could pass, and hell..if Zac was listed in it..do you know how many little girls would run into the movie? Im not sure if thats good or bad just yet lol

 

[Ring Deacon]

I wouldn't dream of it! I would never back a Nightwing movie without some Batman love. Word?
I have a trailer in mind.
First an aproaching angle shot of a bridge. We see a 'guy' on a motorcycle.
Voice over by whatever actor
"When I was a boy . . .'
cycle zoomz past camera.
" I was part of one of the greatest shows you could ever see."
Flash back of the circus.
"My mother and father and I "
Silhouette of person in the air, arms spread like wings the trapese swinging behind
"We could fly"
cycle zooms down city street as it gets darker.
"Then one night"
We see the broken rope swing into camera ala BTAS
"My mother and father were ripped from the air"
We see the Graysons limp on the circus floor. A close up of Dick's face riddled with tears and horror.
"I would never fly with them again" w/ a view of Dick kneeling at his parents body and a figure aproaches him from behind cloaked in shadow.
"All I knew was fear, hate, rage, and pain."
"Then someone took me in" These two lines looped with a closeup of Dick as his sorrow and horror turn to clear anger and a hand clasps his shoulder from the shadows.
The camera looks up at the shadow but all that can be made out are sharp shoulders and two white, fearce looking eyes.
The next two lines are looped with training footage of young Dick Grayson.
"He taught me how to use my hate. How to control my rage."
" He trained me to use my skills as a weapon"
"Then he showed me how to mask my fear and pain"
A wide shot of the Robin mask comes into view.
"We became one of the greatest teams the world has ever known"
A wideshot of Batman and Robin shaking hands. Nothing silly looking for Batman will still be cloaked in shadow but this time you know it's Batman.
An iconic shot of Batman and Robin swinging across a moonlit sky into the camera.
" We were like shadows . . . and we could fly!"
A quick shot pearing out a window as Batman and Robin swing in and crash though it.
A fade to black and fade in on older Dick's face as he is looking at a building. It is night now and voice over states
"But I'm not a boy anymore"
He walks into the building .
The camera looks towards the the top of the building and begins to move upward
" I can't live in those shadows anymore"
camera picks up speed.
"And tonight . . ."
camera nears the top
"I make my own shadow"
As we get an iconic shot of Nightwing in full costume standing on the edge of the rooftop, peering across the city and birds or bats or both begin to circle from behind, fly in front of him towards the camera and form the Nightwing logo.

Now this would work. But I think it could be done in the first 10 - 20 minutes of the movie. Hell you don't even need to see Batman in hardly any part of it other then a tease. But I think there should be some sort of bridge gapped between the characters. Maybe Alfred. Or use what you wrote to start the movie off and end it with Batman and Nightwing on a rooftop and Batman saying how proud of Dick he is. Then bats leaps off into the night leaving Nightwing to go on his own.

 

[The Phantom]

Everyone knows any successful superhero movie needs an intro, body, and a conclusion. You can't make a Nightwing movie without having Robin first. For example: I know everything there is to know in regards to Spiderman, however when they did the movie they did his origins WHY, because as much as you'd like to believe that ^^ everyone knows who robin is, but you must tell his story in full for it to be a good movie. Also for every two persons that knows about Robin/Nightwing there is another five that don't. And in Teen Titans they never mentioned batman but they subliminally mentioned him when Robin uttered I have a father (bats flew across the room towards the moon FORGET the EP).

That's not necessarily true. Everyone knows who Batman is, and everyone knows who Robin is. The story doesn't need to put much energy in connecting how Robin becomes Nightwing, all that needs to be made apparent really is that Nightwing once worked alongside batman under another alias in the past.

Honestly though, for Nightwing to be done solo with justice, it would have to be made into a tv series. I liked the idea that was once made on here where the first season (and possibly second) for a Nightwing television series would basically have Grayson becoming a cop in Bludhaven, he would then decide that like Gotham the police department of Bludhaven is overtly corrupt and doing nothing at all really about the chaos going on in the city. He would don a costume once more, but instead of dusting off the old Robin suit and going back to Batman, he'd make a name for himself in the form of Nightwing and make Bludhaven his stomping grounds.

The series shouldn't be anything remotely similar to Smallville, which was Birds of Prey's downfall as a series, it should be gritty and adult. Where as Gotham is somewhat traditional even with its criminals, Bludhaven should be much more contemporary, almost like the Wire. And unlike Batman, Nightwing wouldn't be a popular figure in Bludhaven, for the most part he's pretty hated by all sides.

 

[NotFadeAway]

It would most likely suck if it was on CW. No deal.

I know it's not the WB anymore, but the network did have it's gems with Angel and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I think you could do a Nightwing in a similiar tone to atleast Angel, which should never have been cancelled by the way!

 

[Savage]

Not to mention Supernatural. If they took the show that seriously and didn't pull a Birds of Prey (I don't think they even opened up a comic for that one) then I'm sure it'd be great.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Not to mention Supernatural. If they took the show that seriously and didn't pull a Birds of Prey (I don't think they even opened up a comic for that one) then I'm sure it'd be great.

The sad thing is BoP had potential had they done it right. They didn't mind mixing it up mythos wise, but they just didn't know how to write or develop the show for anything. It finally started getting good, when they finally went up against Harley in the series finale. By then it was a lost battle.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Please explain how that would be so?

Because honestly with Titans, it opens up the doors for a number of characters and allows for an X-Men-like situation. Allows for more spin-offs and the ability to touch on a few more characters. It's no different than a typical team-up movie. Being in the leader position, he's obivously going to be given the chance to shine in his own right.

It was a typo I meant 'shouldnt'.. your posting in like every thread I see on SHH is creeping me out.

 

[Justice Bringer]

but he still has his boyish looks lol. Which could pass, and hell..if Zac was listed in it..do you know how many little girls would run into the movie? Im not sure if thats good or bad just yet lol

Bad...and stupid.

Its a good thing anyway that Robin isnt in this film so they don't have to worry about casting Tim Drake.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Not to mention Supernatural. If they took the show that seriously and didn't pull a Birds of Prey (I don't think they even opened up a comic for that one) then I'm sure it'd be great.

Supernatural probably wont last beyond a third season; ratings are pretty bad. CW is the wrong network for shows like this. I guess these WB superhero properties work better in the movies anyway.

 

[TwilightPro101]

It was a typo I meant 'shouldnt'.. your posting in like every thread I see on SHH is creeping me out.

Oh d'oh, my mistake

 

[JP]

Titans.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Oh d'oh, my mistake

seriously youre like in every thread are u multiple man ?

 

[Noir]

Neither, Robin should be in the Teen Titans movie with a Batman reference, No Nightwing movie, besides WB would never make a Nightwing movie, they can't even make a GL or Flash or WW movie.

 

[Matt.S99]

Thank you! I knew I wasn't the only one who wanted him to play Dick Grayson.

theres a few people here who want him in that role, id also like to see him as spiderman considering that casting rumour

I can really dig that casting choice!

heh thanks!

Zac is 20 now. Too old for Tim Drake

well lots of people in movies who are in their 20's pass off as teens, zac is one of em, he's still got a young look to him and he isnt a bad actor either
plus tim isnt that little boy now, he's like 16 or 17 now, zac can pass off as that age

also,i agree on a nightwing tv series, personally, i wouldnt call it nightwing though, id call it bludhaven

 

[King Ruler]

Supernatural probably wont last beyond a third season; ratings are pretty bad.

I want proof of this. It is to my understanding that their ratings have been moderately good...not as good as the first season but still very good.

 

[batbat_29640]

"Titans' could turn out to be a great movie but with the way Hollywood has been rather careless with the Superhero genre there's just as much of a possibility that the movie could suck balls. I would hate to see that happen to Nightwing . . . or Raven, Cyborg, Speedy, or Starfire. They should stick with Robin for the 'Titans' movie because of the age factor. He's still a teen and hasn't been through enough to make the transition from Robin to Nightwing.

 

[NotFadeAway]

The more I sit and think about it, a solo Nightwing series sounds awesome!!

 

[Steelsheen]

Include Nightwing and acknowledge he was Batman's partner as Robin but be very ambigous with the prior relationship with little details about that time in his career.

Portray it that they had a falling out and are not currently on speaking terms.

co-signed.

 

[SupaFresh208]

Out of curiousity which Robin are they gonna go with for the movie, Timothy Drake or Dick Grayson. In the series in the future episode when Robin became Nightwing why was that, Tim Drake was never Nightwing.

 

[raybia]

I think it is a huge mistake for Warner to have Nightwing in the 'Titans' movie. Nightwing deserves his own movie, imo. What do you think?

A Nightwing movie would flop...at this point. General moviegoers do not know who he is.

Take the X-Men approach and center the movie around Nightwing the way they center the X-Men movies around Wolverine.

If its a hit then you can put Nightwing in his own movie. I think getting the right actor to play him is key as well a great script and developing Richard Grayson/Nightwing as an interesting character.

IMO, it should wholeheartedly be Tyler Hoechlin. The kid who played in Road to Perdition as Tom Hank's son.

He is 6'1" and 20 years old. When I first saw him and the movie, I thought it was the perfect model for a Batman and Robin movie and this kid is Robin.

See IMDB for recent pics. This is Richard Grayson!


http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz...00.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Hoechlin, Tyler

 

[Katsuro]

Out of curiousity which Robin are they gonna go with for the movie, Timothy Drake or Dick Grayson. In the series in the future episode when Robin became Nightwing why was that, Tim Drake was never Nightwing.

It would obviously by Dick Grayson if they're making him Nightwing. And in the future episode of the Titans cartoon, i'm almost certain the Nightwing was just an older Dick Grayson, because Robin on that show was Dick Grayson.

 

[Savage]

Out of curiousity which Robin are they gonna go with for the movie, Timothy Drake or Dick Grayson. In the series in the future episode when Robin became Nightwing why was that, Tim Drake was never Nightwing.

Nightwing is the first and only character confirmed for the Teen Titans movie right now aaand what made you think the Robin in Teen Titans was Tim Drake? There've been multiple hints that the Robin on the show is in fact Dick Grayson...In fact him becoming Nightwing was one of the bigger clues...

 

[King Ruler]

Not this argument again.

 

[batbat_29640]

A Nightwing movie would flop...at this point. General moviegoers do not know who he is.

Take the X-Men approach and center the movie around Nightwing the way they center the X-Men movies around Wolverine.

If its a hit then you can put Nightwing in his own movie. I think getting the right actor to play him is key as well a great script and developing Richard Grayson/Nightwing as an interesting character.

IMO, it should wholeheartedly be Tyler Hoechlin. The kid who played in Road to Perdition as Tom Hank's son.

He is 6'1" and 20 years old. When I first saw him and the movie, I thought it was the perfect model for a Batman and Robin movie and this kid is Robin.

See IMDB for recent pics. This is Richard Grayson!


http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz...00.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Hoechlin, Tyler

I completely agree with that casting choice. From the moment I saw the guy I thought 'That's Dick Grayson!!!!' But don't believe a Nightwing movie would flop as bad as a bad 'Titans' movie starring Nightwing. That's why I believe they should stick with Robin. They should first redeem Robin from that B&R fiasco. Give Dick the expereance he needs to become Nightwing. Then make a Nightwing movie.