No Hulk sequel, a RE-START instead.

[TheSumOfGod]

So, I assume you've all heard the news. Avi Arad said that as much as he absolutely loved Ang Lee's Hulk movie, the next Hulk movie will be a re-start, closer to the comic books, closer to what the fans and the general public expected.

By this, I suppose he means that Bruce Banner will be at ground zero of a gamma bomb explosion, and that we'll get plenty of Hulk versus super-strong monster action.

I'm fine with this, really. Ang Lee's Hulk is my favorite film of all time, I love every single detail of it, and I was kinda worried that they would make a s**tty sequel. The last thing we want is a straight-to-DVD sequel, with subpar cgi and terrible dialogue.

So if this re-start is a big, fun, summer popcorn flick, with non-stop action and laughs, like the first Spider-man movie, we win, and if it ends up being a horrible piece of crap like what Jonathan Hensleigh was planning to do back in 1997, at least Ang Lee's Hulk won't be tainted by it.

What do you think?

And how would YOU handle this re-start? Or how would you have handled the sequel that will apparently never be?

I would have started Hulk 2 with Bruce Banner in the Amazonian jungle, living with villagers, studying the local plant life, trying to find a cure for himself. The first major action scene would have been when a slash-and-burn operation would arrive at the village and force the villagers to leave with machine guns and machettis. Hulk would have smashed their bulldozers letting out a huge "HULK SMASH!", and have used the thunderclap to blow all of those bastards away.

We would have heard the Hulk's voice very often throughout the movie, but mostly as inner dialogue, as the Hulk contemplates his incredible power and indestructibility, and thinks about being able to destroy the world with his bare hands.

Wolverine (Hugh Jackman borrowed from the X-Men franchise (pre-X3) and Fox studios) and the Abomination would have been the main villains. And maybe Betty Ross would have died at the end, as the Abomination kills her during his fight with the Hulk in the streets of New York, allowing the Hulk to become more pissed-off and more powerful than ever before. A tragic ending would have been appropriate, I think.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

"Hulk get no sequel?! But DareDevil get sequel! DareDevil even got side-quel Elektra! And both PINO and FFINO (Punisher In Name Only and Fantastic Four In Name Only) are getting sequels! HULK GOOD MOVIE! HULK REALLY SMART MOVIE! HULK MAD!!!"

 

[Cracker Jack]

I like your idea for the sequel Sums. *I can't believe I said that I agree with something Sums said * Sequel or “Do-Over” who knows. Avi seems to change his mind as often as he changes his pants. I also agree that if DD and FF get a sequel, The Hulk deserves one to. Maybe Avi will find someone to put up the dough for a sequel. To this point it seems that he can’t

 

[TheSumOfGod]

I like your idea for the sequel Sums. *I can't believe I said that I agree with something Sums said * Sequel or “Do-Over” who knows. Avi seems to change his mind as often as he changes his pants. I also agree that if DD and FF get a sequel, The Hulk deserves one to. Maybe Avi will find someone to put up the dough for a sequel. To this point it seems that he can’t

And I don't think I want to see Hugh Jackman fight Hulk anymore. After X3, he's not Wolverine anymore as far as I'm concerned (but maybe they could re-make X3! ).

 

[TheSumOfGod]

S**t. I just realized that this thread should be in "Hulk Sequels" instead...

 

[Cracker Jack]

And I don't think I want to see Hugh Jackman fight Hulk anymore. After X3, he's not Wolverine anymore as far as I'm concerned (but maybe they could re-make X3! ).

I haven't seen x-3 yet. Wolverine vs The Movie Hulk at 15'? Sheesh That's sorta like Pee Herman vs Jet Lee

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

"Hulk get no sequel?! But DareDevil get sequel! DareDevil even got side-quel Elektra! And both PINO and FFINO (Punisher In Name Only and Fantastic Four In Name Only) are getting sequels! HULK GOOD MOVIE! HULK REALLY SMART MOVIE! HULK MAD!!!"

I agree with the hulk in fact: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33980

X3 come out few weaks ago. Spider-Man 3 is comming next year. Both great sequels to great movies about Hulk friends. Hulk love great action movies about friends! People buy tickets. Make money for theaters, make money for movie company. Movie company make more movies with money. Already, they working on Wolverine. Hulk movie come out last year. It success. It big popcorn movie with heart. So why no one want make Hulk 2? Why restart Hulk? It make Hulk mad!
Hulk know what people say. Original movie no good, people say. Hulk movie Hulk-sized bomb, people say. That not true! Hulk more successful than people think. Make $132 million in U.S. alone, only cost $120 million. That not small potatoes. Add international box-office receipts and DVD sales and it add up to big money. Big! Oh, and did Hulk forget merchandising tie-ins? First Hulk movie really forge Hulk brand identity. Make people aware of Hulk. Hulk now poised to build on success of first Hulk movie. Hulk 2 smash box-office records!
First Hulk movie flawed but underrated. Oscar-winner Jennifer Connelly give sublime performance as Hulk romantic interest Betty Ross. She pretty. Australian hunk Eric Bana good in breakthrough American role as puny human Bruce Banner. Film even give tip of hat to TV Hulk and Stan "The Man" Lee. Sure, conflict with father stray from original story, but it provide new twist on classic legend. Necessary to increase dramatic tension. Make Hulk seem more human so audience can identify with puny human Banner.
Why no one appreciate daring vision of Ang Lee? Aaargh! Ang Lee genius! Maybe panels on screen gimmicky, but him try something new. When last time you try something new?! Ang Lee willing to work in unfamiliar genres. Him brave like Hulk. Hulk wish for him to work on Hulk 2, if he willing, but Hulk understand if he not want to. Ang Lee like Hulk: He not stay in one place for too long. Him working on gay western right now. That prove Hulk's point. If him not do it, maybe Darren Aronofsky or David Gordon Green. Someone with unique vision that not so stuck on action clichés. First studio exec to suggest Joel Schumacher get smashed!
Hulk 2 give chance to increase merchandising profile, as well. Hulk have ideas for new Hulk products. Hulk Foam Hands surprise hit in toy stores. Hulk Foam Hands big and soft and make Hulk smashing noises when you hit things. If Hulk Hands big hit, Hulk Feet even bigger hit! Make smashing and stomping noises. Imagine puny human child walking around with Hulk Feet! Make big noise like Hulk. Imagine... ho, ho, ho... excuse Hulk, Hulk laughing. That funny! But Hulk not just limit branding to toys. Make Hulk Shampoo and Hulk Shampoo For Kids, in special no-tears formula. It sound like bad idea, but it good idea! You squirt it right in eye, and it not make you mad! Hulk very concerned with hygiene and comfort. Know how hard it is to make puny human child take bath. Hulk Shampoo make bath-time fun!
Many unanswered questions from last Hulk movie. What happen to puny human Banner in rainforest? Is there cure for Hulk? Will General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross leave Hulk alone? Is there future with Betty Ross? Where villains that make comic so great, like Abomination, Wendigo, and Leader? Hulk hate Leader and Leader's big head. What happen to Grey Hulk? And where Hulk's friend Rick Jones? He only one that understand Hulk. Rick? Rick!? Raaaaahhhh! Sometimes Hulk so sad and alone.
Back to Hulk movie. Hulk visualize Hulk trilogy like Matrix, but no spiritual mumbo-jumbo. Crazy mumbo-jumbo make Hulk's head hurt! Hulk work out treatment for next movie Hulkself. It have everything in Hulk, only more intense. In this movie, Hulk smash for first 20 minutes. Give fanboys something to hang fanboy hats on. Then have romance, for women ages 24 to 40. Very important demographic if want make movie real summer blockbuster.
Then Leader come, bring Abomination. Him try to wreck everything by capturing Hulk. Then Hulk smash more! Hulk smash Leader and Abomination! Hulk smash tanks, too! That nod to first film. Hulk love scene where Hulk throw tank into horizon. At end of movie, cliffhanger. Put people on edge of seats. Like Hulk say, always leave puny humans wanting more.
Hulk working on pitch right now. Hope to take lunch with Hulk movie screenwriter James Schamus. Him really get what Hulk all about. Also, him open doors in Hollywood. Hope him will share story-by credit with Hulk. Hulk paint in broad strokes. Not good with words. Leave detail work to Schamus.
If you producer, Hulk want know why you sitting around? Does producer hate make money? Hulk need someone line up investors now. Need maybe $100 million. Less than original. Kinks worked out by now. Software engines all designed. Want start filming in New Zealand by December. It summer there when winter here. It much cheaper to film in New Zealand. Hulk budget-conscious. If all go according to plan, Hulk 2 hit theaters by summer 2006. Perfect summer movie!
If that not enough, Hulk write great tag lines. "No make Hulk 2 angry!" Maybe "This time it personal." Or "Green machine back in theaters summer 2006." Maybe teaser poster with Hulk fist punching out of poster. Puny humans see that and they duck! It real attention-grabber. If you still not convinced, Hulk not waste more time with you. Maybe New Line interested. They flush with Lord Of Rings money. Looking for new franchise? Call Hulk when you ready to talk serious about sequel, not remake.

Rough Translation: Most people don't want a Hulk re-make, THEY WANT A SEQUEL! Even look at the polls. Re-do hulk maybe 10 years after The Hulk movies are done.

 

[torkibe]

I liked the CGI in the first movie a lot. i thought it was much better than having an actor in a costume. It really let the Hulk unleash his fury. I do think they made him too big though. I love Jennifer Connelly and think Eric Bana is fine as Bruce. Other than that, I hated it. It was TOO MUCH of a melodrama. I don't mind a little drama in my action movies, but I don't want it to be a drama movie with a little action. There was no need to change the origin, and if they wanted to delve deeper into the Hulk/Bruce psyche then they should have waited for the sequal. I'm glad it will be a redo and not a sequel.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

I haven't seen x-3 yet. Wolverine vs The Movie Hulk at 15'? Sheesh That's sorta like Pee Herman vs Jet Lee

I figure that in the never-gonna-happen-now sequel, they should make him only 8 feet tall, and go up to 10 feet when he's super-pissed off. As much as I absolutely loved this film, I have to agree that 15 feet was a little too tall.

 

[Dope Nose]

We would have heard the Hulk's voice very often throughout the movie, but mostly as inner dialogue, as the Hulk contemplates his incredible power and indestructibility, and thinks about being able to destroy the world with his bare hands.

sounds like the Hulk to me.

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

I figure that in the never-gonna-happen-now sequel, they should make him only 8 feet tall, and go up to 10 feet when he's super-pissed off. As much as I absolutely loved this film, I have to agree that 15 feet was a little too tall.

It was maybe for the movie (2203) but not for the hulk.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I figure that in the never-gonna-happen-now sequel, they should make him only 8 feet tall, and go up to 10 feet when he's super-pissed off. As much as I absolutely loved this film, I have to agree that 15 feet was a little too tall.

8 feet or the size he was in the first Hulk-out is about right. But the growing thing. Nah, keep him one size. So Sums, I take it that you understand what "it's a Do-Over" means? It seems that it's a hard concept to grasph around here. Hmmm, this just dawned on me. "It's a do-over" is like a fowl ball in baseball.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

It was maybe for the movie (2003) but not for the hulk.

I know, in the comics years ago he once seemed to be over 30 feet tall on a devastated alien planet or something, but that was the illustrator's fault, they tend to draw the super-strong, super-muscular characters WAY too big, movies are supposed to be more realistic. And Hulk being 15 feet tall made him seem like a giant besides Betty Ross. He looked fine when trashing an army tank, though.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

So Sum, I take it that you understand what "it's a Do-Over" means? It seems that it's a hard concept to grasph around here.

Sure, they're re-making it, re-starting the franchise. Batman Begins was a "do-over".

 

[Cracker Jack]

Sure, they're re-making it, re-starting the franchise. Batman Begins was a "do-over".

That's what I've been trying to tell these guys but they seem to think differently. I think that they want to believe it's not a "Do-Over". Maybe we're wrong but I don't know what else "It's a Do-Over" could mean. I hope the "Do-Over" is as good as Batman Begins

 

[Sava]

That's what I've been trying to tell these guys but they seem to think differently. I think that they want to believe it's not a "Do-Over". Maybe we're wrong but I don't know what else "It's a Do-Over" could mean. I hope the "Do-Over" is as good as Batman Begins

same here

 

[TheSumOfGod]

But I still think that Ang Lee's Hulk is the best a Hulk movie can get. Doing it over, closer to the comic book, with more Hulk, more action and more monsters might make it more "fun", but it would not make it a better movie. Ang Lee's Hulk was of the highest quality imaginable.

 

[Cracker Jack]

But I still think that Ang Lee's Hulk is the best a Hulk movie can get. Doing it over, closer to the comic book, with more Hulk, more action and more monsters might make it more "fun", but it would not make it a better movie. Ang Lee's Hulk was of the highest quality imaginable.

I think Angs movie was a step in the right direction. However, I think it confused a lot of people. Well maybe not confused them but it wasn't what they were looking for or expecting. The slow pace, the Partaking dad, the New Origin and the growing to the size of Kong were not good. One side was looking for the TV Hulk while old fans like me were looking for Savage Hulk. In all honesty, the TV origin is closer the the comic origin in my opinion.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well i loved Ang's take on Hulk and i cant see any new version being of a higher quality,

 

[Sava]

But I still think that Ang Lee's Hulk is the best a Hulk movie can get. Doing it over, closer to the comic book, with more Hulk, more action and more monsters might make it more "fun", but it would not make it a better movie. Ang Lee's Hulk was of the highest quality imaginable.

not really, the Hulk as a character looked great with the exception of his height and his changing faces. THe story could have been better.

 

[Dope Nose]

the Hulk would have been great had they lost the whole 'Absorbing-Dad' subplot. as it stands, I much prefer the Bill Bixby pilot. Bixby's Banner was a much more tragic figure than Bana's.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I never really enjoyed the Hulk T.V series, so Bana's was the more interesting to me.

 

[November Rain]

wow, i can't believe that marvel hasn't got the guts to go with the best superhero movie product they've accomplished so far...

shame...

i Felt there was enough of the other stuff set up in the first movie to truelly allow for an in depth look at banner's and the hulk's psyche in the next one, a movie that wouldn't require a villain since there was still story within banner to carry it through.

but alas they've chickened out when something like fantastic four gets the green light....bah....

cash>quality

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Your right November, i think this new movie is gonna be a dumbed down popcorn flick which lasts 90 minutes.

 

[Sava]

lets wait and see what they do, if we have this attitude of "the next wont be as great as teh first", then no matter how good it is, we wont like it. Just wait and see before you pass judgement