No Hulk sequel, a RE-START instead.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

But i have had this attitude before Sava, and believe me, i love nothing more than being proven wrong by a movie, it actually adds to my enjoyment.

 

[November Rain]

the thing is that ang lee was very mature about the whole topic and didn't look at it from a hero beating a villain being the main focus of the film (in that sense).

It's quite clear that all the points that separate it from other marvel hero films are the reasons why the people who do like it LIKE it ALOT. What it seems they wish to do is to put it back in line with the rest making banner, the hulk, betty and thunderbolt ross charicature-esque, easily identifyable stereotypes that are quite clear cut and can be pretty dull. It's all going to be pretty much, what you see is what you get.

the worst part is the rest of the world is going to swallow it up and it's not going to further enhance the genre's credibility as being able to give good solid stories with also entertaining action. It will still firmly be a superhero flick which people believe should be full of flaws and continuity problems simply because its based on fictional characters able to do extraordinary feats.

it's fairly certain that's whats going to happen.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

the thing is that ang lee was very mature about the whole topic and didn't look at it from a hero beating a villain being the main focus of the film (in that sense).

It's quite clear that all the points that separate it from other marvel hero films are the reasons why the people who do like it LIKE it ALOT. What it seems they wish to do is to put it back in line with the rest making banner, the hulk, betty and thunderbolt ross charicature-esque, easily identifyable stereotypes that are quite clear cut and can be pretty dull. It's all going to be pretty much, what you see is what you get.

the worst part is the rest of the world is going to swallow it up and it's not going to further enhance the genre's credibility as being able to give good solid stories with also entertaining action. It will still firmly be a superhero flick which people believe should be full of flaws and continuity problems simply because its based on fictional characters able to do extraordinary feats.

it's fairly certain that's whats going to happen.

Thats exactly how i feel. Most marvel movies these days seem to follow the same pattern, Hero meets villain half way through, then again at the end. Hulk followed a different pattern, and thats why its so fresh to watch.

 

[November Rain]

yeah hulk caught me off guard on my first watch, i wasn't expecting what i did but i gave it a chance and with each subsequent viewing i realised just how much had been packed in there...

I mean considering betty and banner never even kissed in the film (present time), their relationship is far stronger than any of the other relationships shown in the marvel movie universe. Her scene with bruce when she comes to visit him and she tells him about how she was going to watch him die is so so moving, all her actions towards him are ones of deep concern and she even distances herself from him in the end because she knows it's best for him.

that's a mature meaningful relationship right there, not MJ running away on her wedding day and signing herself up to a life of heartache unexpectedly and parker letting her do so, I mean the whole aspect of tearing someone away from their wedding day doesn't even come up.

but if that's the corny immature stories media wants then so be it...

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I know, i love that part were Betty meets Hulk in San Fran, he turns back and they exchange dialogue and then hug. I felt so much for both of them.

 

[Sava]

Hulk crys... i freaking love that part

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Hulk crys... i freaking love that part

You mean that little teardrop in the lake in the woods after the fight with the Hulk dogs?

My favorite Hulk moment was when he's just sitting down in the middle of the desert and looking at some moss. That is SO Hulk, an indestructible, infinitely powerful force, that just calms down for a moment and ponders the mysteries and strange beauty of moss in the middle of the desert. The facial expressions in that shot were amazing and perfect, as if he was thinking to himself, without a single word, "Wow, that's alive, and it's beautiful, and it thrives out here, in the blazing sun, in a dry, ruthless environment, at peace." THAT'S the Hulk at it's best: like primordial, prehistoric man, peaceful yet savage, at one with nature.

 

[Mad Bull]

You mean that little teardrop in the lake in the woods after the fight with the Hulk dogs?

Is that what that was? I had kinda hoped it was sweat or something,

The Hulk movie definitely showed the Hulk in a light that most of the world just isn't familiar with. They wrinkle their noses and say "What?" when presented with a Hulk that is ponderous, even for a moment. Granted, the Hulk is strength personified, but there's more to him than that. It's just that nobody really is aware of it. So when they see him like that, he's "out of character" to them.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Is that what that was? I had kinda hoped it was sweat or something,

The Hulk movie definitely showed the Hulk in a light that most of the world just isn't familiar with. They wrinkle their noses and say "What?" when presented with a Hulk that is ponderous, even for a moment. Granted, the Hulk is strength personified, but there's more to him than that. It's just that nobody really is aware of it. So when they see him like that, he's "out of character" to them.

And if they ever make a movie featuring ULTIMATE Hulk, it'll have to be NC-17 for sure. Just the Betty Ross being raped/being split in half scene will make the MPAA antsy.

 

[Mad Bull]

And if they ever make a movie featuring ULTIMATE Hulk, it'll have to be NC-17 for sure. Just the Betty Ross being raped/being split in half scene will make the MPAA antsy.

Whoa! WHAT?! Did I miss something??? Did that happen in Ultimate continuity or were you joking?

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Whoa! WHAT?! Did I miss something??? Did that happen in Ultimate continuity or were you joking?

Ultimate Hulk got drunk and wanted for Betty Ross to "give Hulk a try", but the Ultimates intervened in time.

 

[Mad Bull]

Ultimate Hulk got drunk and wanted for Betty Ross to "give Hulk a try", but the Ultimates intervened in time.

Oh, good. Lol, that ripped in half thing was gonna be a bit much for me. I'm really trying hard to like the Hulk in that continuity, but I think an event like THAT would've made it a lot harder.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Edit: Nevermind.

 

[Cracker Jack]

My favorite Hulk moment was when he's just sitting down in the middle of the desert and looking at some moss. That is SO Hulk, an indestructible, infinitely powerful force, that just calms down for a moment and ponders the mysteries and strange beauty of moss in the middle of the desert. The facial expressions in that shot were amazing and perfect, as if he was thinking to himself, without a single word, "Wow, that's alive, and it's beautiful, and it thrives out here, in the blazing sun, in a dry, ruthless environment, at peace." THAT'S the Hulk at it's best: like primordial, prehistoric man, peaceful yet savage, at one with nature.

Ang did get that much right.

 

[Sava]

You mean that little teardrop in the lake in the woods after the fight with the Hulk dogs?

My favorite Hulk moment was when he's just sitting down in the middle of the desert and looking at some moss. That is SO Hulk, an indestructible, infinitely powerful force, that just calms down for a moment and ponders the mysteries and strange beauty of moss in the middle of the desert. The facial expressions in that shot were amazing and perfect, as if he was thinking to himself, without a single word, "Wow, that's alive, and it's beautiful, and it thrives out here, in the blazing sun, in a dry, ruthless environment, at peace." THAT'S the Hulk at it's best: like primordial, prehistoric man, peaceful yet savage, at one with nature.

i was actually being serious, i was talking about the part when he watches her walking down the steps, just a hint of tear in his eyes

 

[Chris Wallace]

"Hulk get no sequel?! But DareDevil get sequel! DareDevil even got side-quel Elektra! And both PINO and FFINO (Punisher In Name Only and Fantastic Four In Name Only) are getting sequels! HULK GOOD MOVIE! HULK REALLY SMART MOVIE! HULK MAD!!!"

It's funny how Hulk fans complain about the movie getting such a bad rap but then take every opportunity to bash other Marvel films they didn't like. Neither FF, DD nor Punisher have anything to do w/the lukewarm reception that "Hulk" got, & that's why no sequel has been greenlit. Maybe if the naysayers would take a break from ripping everything to shreds, some progress could be made.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

On a side-note, what do you guys think of my new avy?

 

[Sava]

not bad,

... if you like that, you can have it, i'm never going to use it again

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Nah, I prefer mine, but thanks anyway.

 

[Sava]

no problem

 

[Hades]

Ugh, I don't get why people say it's not close to the comic. In the comic, Bruce's father experimented on himself, which caused Bruce to be born with some kind of "monster gene" which possibly gave made him super intelligent, but the reason the gamma blast didn't kill him was because of this monster gene. Bruce's father also killed his mother. Then Bruce was later adopted. Now all this was present in the movie.

Also, I don't want a freaking re-start. The movie was great the way it is, it should get a sequel. I don't want a big dumb superhero film. The Hulk comics were never stupid action first story an afterthought kind of thing to me.

**** Avi Arad. He's a stupid *****e that should have been fired years ago.

 

[Chris Wallace]

That's extreme. Avi's done far more good than bad. And the bad hasn't even been THAT bad.
I'm getting sick of people acting like every franchise needs to take the "Batman Begins" or "Superman Returns" route. There's no reason why they can't continue on in the direction they were originally going, & just do a little tweaking along the way.

 

[Hades]

the thing is that ang lee was very mature about the whole topic and didn't look at it from a hero beating a villain being the main focus of the film (in that sense).

It's quite clear that all the points that separate it from other marvel hero films are the reasons why the people who do like it LIKE it ALOT. What it seems they wish to do is to put it back in line with the rest making banner, the hulk, betty and thunderbolt ross charicature-esque, easily identifyable stereotypes that are quite clear cut and can be pretty dull. It's all going to be pretty much, what you see is what you get.

the worst part is the rest of the world is going to swallow it up and it's not going to further enhance the genre's credibility as being able to give good solid stories with also entertaining action. It will still firmly be a superhero flick which people believe should be full of flaws and continuity problems simply because its based on fictional characters able to do extraordinary feats.

it's fairly certain that's whats going to happen.

Exactly. And it almost saddens me.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Ugh, I don't get why people say it's not close to the comic. In the comic, Bruce's father experimented on himself, which caused Bruce to be born with some kind of "monster gene" which possibly gave made him super intelligent, but the reason the gamma blast didn't kill him was because of this monster gene. Bruce's father also killed his mother. Then Bruce was later adopted. Now all this was present in the movie.

Really? I never heard of this. This was a ret-con done after the movie came out, right? Or has it been a part of 616 continuity for years, and I've simply never heard about it until now for some reason?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The scene of the Hulk in desert looking at the plants also has another meaning i think. It shows that if he was just left alone he wouldnt bother anyone, but human nature is too attack something different.