Should they do an "Incredible Hulk" on Daredevil?

[The Kid]

I don't see a need to incredible hulk it. the DC is actually good, not great, but really is a good decent ground to jump off from regarding sequels. Nothing was glaringly wrong outside of the cheesy playground battle to me. MSJ wanted to put the DC in theaters but the $tudio of course being crappy fox, decided to shortchange the story to get a tighter ADD runnnig time which resulted in the ****ty theatrical version. But there's no serious reason I can find not to continue on from the DD DC version...

It'd be like throwing money away not to go further with this story, which is actually pretty good instead of making more fantastic four movies... or X4.

 

[not_a_victim]

I don't see a need to incredible hulk it. the DC is actually good, not great, but really is a good decent ground to jump off from regarding sequels. Nothing was glaringly wrong outside of the cheesy playground battle to me. MSJ wanted to put the DC in theaters but the $tudio of course being crappy fox, decided to shortchange the story to get a tighter ADD runnnig time which resulted in the ****ty theatrical version. But there's no serious reason I can find not to continue on from the DD DC version...

It'd be like throwing money away not to go further with this story, which is actually pretty good instead of making more fantastic four movies... or X4.

I totally agree. Anyone who has not seen the director's cut of DD is truly missing out on a much better movie.

 

[Caliber]

Yeah. Bring back MSJ again, but this time, Jason Statham as DareDevil.

That sounds like a bad idea, MSJ got DD right but Statham sucks.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I won't go that far, but he'd be a bad choice for the character.

 

[tamron]

Daredevil is a conundrum. You have a potential movie franchise that was hurt by studio politics and public perception.

Releasing the TC is mistake number one. Fox really hurt the film by shredding it for runtime. Most everyone who has seen MSJ's cut of the films agrees it's superior. But in the grand scheme of things, how much of the general public has actually seen it? If a sequel were to come out, the negative perception of the franchise based on the TC as well as Elektra (which I haven't seen personally) would put the sequel in a bad position.

Bennifer and Affleck's subsequent tumble down the Hollywood pecking order also hurts DD's sequel chances. Though DD was a hit, people seem to have the perception that it failed at the BO, and casting Affleck in a sequel at this point is incredibly risky. Unless Affleck were to rebound in a very big way, for example, an Oscar nod for the upcoming Hollywoodland, doing a sequel with him in the lead, as much as I liked him in DD, is very risky. Yet, DD was a hit, so by recasting you risk losing money, too.

I personally wouldn't want to see them "start fresh". MSJ knows the material, and is a competent director. And if Ghost Rider is as good as it seems, he'd be in an even better position to deliver a worthy sequel. Perhaps a realistic route is to is make it more of a gritty character study to avoid breaking the bank on the budget. Then they may be able to safely turn a profit.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Would you maybe want him to collab w/Miller? I say it couldn't hurt.

 

[tamron]

You mean co-direct, Sin City style? Affleck wanted Kevin Smith involved, too. I'd have no problem with Miller or Smith helping however it is seen fit, but I honestly think MSJ is more than capable. The main thing is that a DD sequel happen under the Paramount deal, so no one chops it up needlessly.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Actually I was thinking he could co-write. Smith could too, but he'd take too long.

 

[Joker]

I dont know, Smith seems to move fairly quickly with movie projects, it's just his comics that he takes freakin forever on. Probably the fact that with movie studios, if you don't have your script in on time, you don't get paid. But a Miller/Smith/MSJ collaberation on the script would be awesome. If they wouldn't do it though, what about Bendis? He really nailed the character with his run on the book, and has been getting a bit into the Hollywood scene as of late.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I won't pass judgment on that idea either way. The fact that you're open to my previous suggestion is enough for now.

 

[Retroman]

Should they do an "Incredible Hulk" on Daredevil?

No i think Marvel are making a mistake with all the changes they're making on ''Hulk 2'' and i wouldn't want to see the same happening on Daredevil.Let MSJ return and if they can get the rest of the cast back =

179 Million worldwide gross from a movie that cost 78 million dollars, its strange that the studio hasn't started developping a Daredevil 2 yet.I've seen worse flicks get sequels.

 

[Joker]

No i think Marvel are making a mistake with all the changes they're making on ''Hulk 2'' and i wouldn't want to see the same happening on Daredevil.Let MSJ return and if they can get the rest of the cast back =

179 Million worldwide gross from a movie that cost 78 million dollars, its strange that the studio hasn't started developping a Daredevil 2 yet.I've seen worse flicks get sequels.

That's actually probably doubled when you take the DVD releases into account. If I remember correctly, DD did very very well on DVD.

 

[Retroman]

That's actually probably doubled when you take the DVD releases into account. If I remember correctly, DD did very very well on DVD.

Yeah i think you're right. Apparently Batman Begins $167 million so if thats any indication i'd say Fox made at least 300 million from box office and dvd sales.

BTW i rented the Elektra dvd and watched it with my mom, young sis and a few of her friends who were sleeping over. Not only did they enjoy it but they also asked why there wasn't an Elektra 2.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Elektra didn't know where it wanted to go. I t had many good elements that were blended badly, & bad elements that received too much focus.
So our general concensus on this topic is a resounding negative; leave DD as is?
Or is it, "They shouldn't do it to Hulk OR Daredevil"?

 

[tamron]

I'd leave DD as is, Hulk does need a change.

I know Hulk has its defenders online, and I'm not saying TIH should be an all-out action romp, but Hulk failed by trying to be too smart for it's own good. Though it made a profit, it was nowhere near as big as it could have been, and it got horrible word of mouth. I don't know anyone irl who likes Hulk, whereas DD definitely has its fans. Which to me indicates a DD sequel in the status quo could at least be as successful as a reboot/re-imagining. I can't say the same about Hulk.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Wow-a critique that doesn't come off as bashing.
Although I think both movies have their equal share of detractors. I think I know more Hulk fans than DD fans overall. But that's me.

 

[Chris Wallace]

And now that I think about it, the majority of the people I know who didn't care for "Hulk" based their reaction on either the lack of action or its being so far-removed from the TV series. The majority of the complaints I heard about Daredevil stemmed from a lack of plot development. Of course, none of them saw the DC.

 

[Retroman]

Elektra didn't know where it wanted to go. I t had many good elements that were blended badly, & bad elements that received too much focus.
So our general concensus on this topic is a resounding negative; leave DD as is?
Or is it, "They shouldn't do it to Hulk OR Daredevil"?

Don't want it to be exactly the same just not a complete overhaul which the Hulk seems to be doing.

 

[ang_hulk]

they need to do a dare devil on the hulk...

 

[Sun_Down]

I've always been a pretty strong supporter of DD, and if DD2 were to be made my Marvel itself instead of FOX, I think we'd have a very good sequel on our hands. But I don't think the same thing is true for the Hulk. The things that made Hulk less than stellar were, IMO, not a result of the studio, but more a result of the creative team. While Lee did get some things right as far as the psychological elements, the film just felt off somehow. Changes need to be made to the franchise, but rebooting it four or five years later with Dominic Purcell as Bruce Banner (rumor, I know) is not the way to go about it. The Hulk laid a solid enough groundwork to warrant a sequel and not a reboot, it'll just take some serious thought and work.

 

[Chris Wallace]

they need to do a dare devil on the hulk...

 

[Ronny Shade]

they need to do a dare devil on the hulk...

 

[DACrowe]

Well the first one made a few mistakes, even in the director's cut. Personally I think making it so Matt never had sex with Elektra was a terrible idea because then there relationship was never ever really cemented and she becomes even more of a piece of ass and window dressing. It also made the cemetary scene have no resonance because he didn't stay for her, why the **** would she stay for him? Also, I felt that the inclusion of a COMICAL COURT ROOM SCENE in between Elektra's father dying and his funeral was a TERRIBLE IDEA and killed the complete mood of the movie.

And MSJ did that more than once, as the playground scene was completely out of place in both versions.

With that said I think the director's cut is still quite enjoyable and thought it handeled the priest even better, had a better Matt and Kingpin. Even if it was heavily action-oriented and some things didn't make sense (not sparing Bullseye but sparing Kingpin? Bullseye should have tried to stab Matt after losing his hands with Elektra's sai like in the comics when he got tossed out the window).


I would love to see this as a trilogy. The next being Born Again where Kingpin gets out and takes everything from Matt. He puts Foggy in a coma, gets Matt disbarred, and he is homeless and crying over Elektra's grave and his only comfort is of courase Karen. Then in the last act of the movie they burn down her home with her in it and we get a hint Bullseye did it and Daredevil comes back with a furious return attack on Kingpin, but he can't do ANYTHING to put him in jail this time.

Setting up for a third movie where he takes Kingpin down once and for all. However I would stress less wire-fu and not FOUR DAMN FIGHTS IN A ROW, especially with DD having an injured shoulder for TWO OF 'EM and still somehow winning.

 

[King Ruler]

....If you ask me, maybe a sequel isn't necessary (even though I want one SOOOO badly). Instead, maybe they should just give DD his own TV series a la "Blade: The Series". But actually make it good. Maybe they can get that guy who played the blind cop from that TV show "Blind Justice". Now that guy could play a badass Matt.

 

[Bishop2]

Daredevil was fantastic. Don't muck with it.