NX - Nintendo's Next Generation Hardware Concept

[Lily Adler]

EA said they'd make games for NX if it makes sense. What they mean is if Nintendo doesn't have an overly wacky control scheme and has hardware sales to make their software investment worthwhile they'll almost certainly put games on the NX. They did not flat out say no.

No they did... you just have to see it with your eyes.

But yeah I wouldn't be surprised if EA just flat out doesn't do it, regardless.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Why would any third party company commit to Nintendo at this point? The console will have some wacky ******** for a controller which means extra development time for third party games. PS4 and Xbox platforms have very similar controllers. No extra nonsense. You add in whatever hair brained scheme Nintendo has planned and now devs can't simply port a game over. They have to do extra work to accommodate Nintendo's ham fisted innovation.

I love Nintendo's games, but their hardware is a train wreck. I completely understand third parties playing the wait and see game. Nintendo doesn't inspire confidence after the Wii U. That said, EA didn't flat out say NO.

 

[Havok83]

Why would any third party company commit to Nintendo at this point? The console will have some wacky ******** for a controller which means extra development time for third party games. PS4 and Xbox platforms have very similar controllers. No extra nonsense. You add in whatever hair brained scheme Nintendo has planned and now devs can't simply port a game over. They have to do extra work to accommodate Nintendo's ham fisted innovation.

I love Nintendo's games, but their hardware is a train wreck. I completely understand third parties playing the wait and see game. Nintendo doesn't inspire confidence after the Wii U. That said, EA didn't flat out say NO.

Nintendo isnt going to have a successful system on 1st party games alone and without third party support, the NX is doomed to fail. Publishers taking the wait and see approach are only contributing to that. Nintendo has billions of dollars. They need to use that to entice devs over even if it helps cover some development cost for the NX versions and/or marketing.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I agree there. If Nintendo is going to do some kinda ******ed ******** gimmick with NX they need to do something to help third parties develop for it. They can't expect the entire industry to bend to their forced innovation.

 

[Sithborg]

EA said they'd make games for NX if it makes sense. What they mean is if Nintendo doesn't have an overly wacky control scheme and has hardware sales to make their software investment worthwhile they'll almost certainly put games on the NX. They did not flat out say no.

I think "bend to our demands" is more appropriate. Which Nintendo is never going to do. Expecting EA games on a Nintendo system seems like a fruitless endeavor.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I think both parties are stubborn. Nintendo will never bend to the trends of modern gaming and EA just does EA stuff. I doubt there will ever be a harmonious relationship between the two.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I know there's no point to saying this, since it basically goes ignored or shunned whenever I do say it, but the problem with the things you guys are saying is that you're assuming Nintendo is going after the same market as Sony and MS. The signs are pointing to them going in a very different direction. We really don't know how important 3rd party support will be, at least traditional AAA support.

Of course, I know I just wasted my time typing that. It's not like anyone is going to pay attention to it.

 

[Soapy]

If the NX can play a Zelda game meant for the Wii U, then it can't be that radical a departure from normal consoles.

 

[Sithborg]

Yes and no, I guess. Nintendo clearly wouldn't turn down third party support. But, they won't cave into demands like MS or Sony could. Nintendo is fine being Nintendo only, since that is their greatest strength.

 

[Tron Bonne]

If the NX can play a Zelda game meant for the Wii U, then it can't be that radical a departure from normal consoles.

I wouldn't be so sure, honestly. We'll see. My gut tells me that when NX is revealed it'll be a very clear, "We're not in the core market anymore. See you later," kind of thing. I may be wrong, of course, like I said just my gut.

 

[Soapy]

So what's this alternative to normal consoles and games? You've been talking big about how it's going to be some fundamentally different thing, but you've never been specific about it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I've not been specific about it, because I don't know what it'll be, obviously. I'm not a Nintendo insider. If I were to speculate a wild guess, I think it'll be something similar to either tablet-ish or streaming box-ish or both. But like I said, no insider information, just gut feeling based on how the company is being restructured, downplaying core gaming in general, etc.

 

[Benstamania]

I wouldn't be so sure, honestly. We'll see. My gut tells me that when NX is revealed it'll be a very clear, "We're not in the core market anymore. See you later," kind of thing. I may be wrong, of course, like I said just my gut.

I'd rather they just go 3rd party before doing that crap.

 

[Tron Bonne]

They'll probably never go third party. Even if they did, it probably wouldn't end up the way everyone thinks. It would mean they'd have to significantly downsize, stock holders would have a lot more ability to pressure management, etc. It wouldn't be like Sega bad probably, but a third party Nintendo would be a much different beast than first party Nintendo. Of course, a Nintendo removed from the core market would be, as well, but they would still have hardware revenue, so they would still be on their own terms, granting it was at least mildly successful.

I think Nintendo will always have some type of gaming hardware that they use their IPs for. Even if it's something totally alien to what the rest of the industry is doing, like a low end stream box or something along those lines with basic versions of their IPs focused at casual audiences only or something. I guess you never know, though, anything could happen, but I think they'd probably go full on mobile-only while licensing out their properties to other mediums if they totally lost all of their hardware revenue.

 

[Venom'sDad]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/everyone-pissed-off-nintendo.html/?ref=YF&ref=yfp

 

[Tron Bonne]

NintenDOOMED

 

[zenith16]

ok on a more positive light if that's allowed. lol

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  Nintendo President Says The NX Presents “A New Way of Playing Games”
  
  Posted on May 16, 2016 | 4 Comments
  This will be interesting to see what the company comes up with. Continue Reading...
  

Speaking in an interview Nintendo President, Tatsumi Kimishima has addressed and reaffirmed some of the previous statements he has made about the company’s upcoming console.


Kimishima says, “The NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS, It’s a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don’t feel it’s a pure replacement for the Wii U.” The claim addresses that the upcoming new console will outperform the Wii U in specs and the market.




Since Kimishima took the title as President of Nintendo, he has wanted to expand upon the hardware and not just create the same version of the box over and over. This addressed the previous issue that the 3DS and Wii U are just different versions of the consoles before them.
Additionally, in the same interview, Kimishima says the company is making moves to enter the film business. These will not be live-action films, but more anime-type movies featuring characters from various Nintendo IPs.




The NX will be released in March 2017 with a special reveal event happening sometime later this year.
Thanks, GSR.

source: Operation Rainfall

 

[Closerframe]

If Nintendo is planning on focusing on a different part of the market, then perhaps they should reevaluate their financial expectations. A lot of consumers still see Nintendo as the go to console for their children who want something more direct and simple versus an entertainment hub like what's found with X1 and PS4. I think their entry into the mobile gaming world is somewhat telling of where the NX might be headed. I could easily see a download only method when it comes to purchasing games with a controller that operates as both a portable handheld and a method of playing more "intense" games. My concern with Nintendo's insistence to delay the console in order to have a larger first-party catalog right out of the gate shows this will likely be another console cycle where they barely get any third-party games ported to their console which is a big problem.

 

[Sithborg]

Or it is just telling of the development cycle of modern games. I'm sure Nintendo will likely have gotten a few non-Nintendo titles for launch. As nice as it would be to have a Wii U greatest collection ready at launch, it isn't a system seller. Waiting to release the Wii U until their system seller is ready is just smart.

 

[Havok83]

So no talk on the Nintendo MH, the alleged next handheld?

 

[zenith16]

yep


Industry
Rumor: Nintendo developing new handheld code-named MH [Update 2]
Published 21 hours ago. 184 comments.

New handheld appears in financial report.

In addition to its new console code-named NX, which is scheduled to launch worldwide in March, Nintendo is developing a new handheld console code-named MH, according to a report on investor news site Trader’s Web.




Further information was not shared. The “MH” handheld itself is mentioned in a Nintendo Mitsubishi UFJ Morgan Stanley financial report.
(This article has no relation to Monster Hunter. We’re just using a Monster Hunter image since the console is reportedly code-named “MH.&#8221




Thanks, Games Talk.
Update 7:08 a.m.: Dr. Serkan Toto, CEO of Tokyo-based game industry consultancy Kantan Games, offers the following on the report: “That Morgan Stanley Japan note on Nintendo does NOT mean a portable console or the name ‘MH’ is confirmed. They are picturing a scenario. Such ‘rich’ forward-looking analysis and also the wording is standard in investor notes. I know because I read *tons* of them.”




Update 1:30 p.m.: Dr. Serkan Toto has offered more clarification on the report: “Final tweet(s) about that Morgan Stanley Japan note on Nintendo: I just received and read it. As I said, they were picturing a scenario. Financial institutions do this kind of future-oriented analysis all the time. The note is much longer than what was released online. The analyst clearly says they are just projecting. They use ‘MH’ as a codename to make the report more readable. It’s arbitrary. In the note, they compare future/theoretical sales of the ‘MH’ with that of the 3DS, so I guess the short name makes sense.”






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source: Gematsu

 

[Tron Bonne]

I read about that earlier, just didn't think to post anything. It's interesting if true, but not really a surprise or anything

 

[Iceman]

I don't think I'll ever buy another handheld no matter how good. Smartphones and tablets have killed it for me as they can do it all on the move.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Most mobile games really aren't very good to me. There's a few standouts here and there, but nothing to the level of a well-made traditional handheld game.

 

[Benstamania]

It would be awesome if it *was* a smartphone..