Official 2011 MLB Thread: Playoffs??

[Kingfish]

Then you had the Verlander staring down Aybar, which isn't the first time a pitcher got mad at a hitter for bunting in the late stages of a no-no.

Which is still ridiculous. Maybe Verlander should, I don't know, EXPECT the man with more bunt and infield hits than anyone in the Majors the last two years to try and bunt for a base hit? It's basically just Verlander whining because he botched the throw.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

Aybar bunting was his only realistic chance at getting on base, that also factors in.

 

[BlackLantern]

Uggla at 29 games

 

[SpideyVille]

Uggla at 29 games

It's crazy to think that he just passed the halfway mark for DiMaggio's record.

 

[John McGuirk]

Which is still ridiculous. Maybe Verlander should, I don't know, EXPECT the man with more bunt and infield hits than anyone in the Majors the last two years to try and bunt for a base hit? It's basically just Verlander whining because he botched the throw.

I see you still didn't accept my apology... I truly was sorry.

But I liked this part too:

Verlander, in some ways, was even better. Since May 7 -- that was the day he threw his second career no-hitter -- the league had hit .176 against him and his strikeouts-to-walks was 127-to-19. Absurd. Sick. The guy was a no-hitter waiting to happen on any given day. And this looked like one of those days.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

It's crazy to think that he just passed the halfway mark for DiMaggio's record.

So have many players like Luis Castillo, that record will never be broken.

 

[John McGuirk]

Yeah no one will break that.

I just hope someone breaks the HR record.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Walter Johnson's 110 career shutouts is the most unbreakable record, IMO. Greg Maddux, probably the best pitcher we've seen in this era, only had 35. Roger Clemens had 46 (38 with the Red Sox), Randy Johnson had 37, Pedro Martinez had 17.

 

[BlackLantern]

probably....but no one is touching Gehrigs 56.....Pete Rose got the closest and he got what....42-44?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

He got 44. Still, he was over 2/3rds of the way to the record. No one has come even half-way close to Johnson's 110 shutouts. Whereas almost every year, someone gets to 30 straight games with a hit.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

Also, no one is going to come close to Cy Young and his 511 wins, or his 749 complete games (but only 76 shutouts), or his 7000 innings pitched.

 

[jacobed]

I was at the Twins/White Sox series all weekend. Unfortunately the Twins got destroyed but what an amazing weeked. 1991 World Series 20th Anniversary weekend and almost the whole team came for it. Friday night was Kent Hrbek/Ron Gant bobblehead day and Sunday they had a nice Kirby Puckett tribute. Phenomenal weekend to celebrate the one of the greatest world series ever.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

probably....but no one is touching Gehrigs 56.....Pete Rose got the closest and he got what....42-44?

Gehrig's 56 what?

 

[Poeman]

probably....but no one is touching Gehrigs 56.....Pete Rose got the closest and he got what....42-44?

Gehrig's 56 sounds like a whiskey drink.

I am sure Dimaggio celebrated getting to 56 game hitting streak with some whiskey

 

[steintym]

Some of those pitching records are unbelievable. So many of them won't be close to being touched.

 

[SpideyVille]

That's because most people are very protective of pitchers these days, and because hitters are stronger and stadiums are smaller.

But I wonder, did pitchers throw over 80-90 back in the day, or did they just try to ge the ball past the hitter however they could. I feel like pitchers have had more injuries to their arms because they try to throw harder as opposed to actually pitch around a hitter.

 

[steintym]

Pitchers are used completely differently today. Pitchers won't even have the opportunity to get close to some of the records.

 

[SpideyVille]

Yeah, before it was like if you started the game, you finished the game, regardless of the score. But now, if the score is close and you're near 100 pitches, you're barely allowed to finish the inning, let alone the game, unless you have a reputation like Halladay and Sabathia for being able to finish games off.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

I feel like pitchers have had more injuries to their arms because they try to throw harder as opposed to actually pitch around a hitter.

The pitching motion is likely where the injury comes from I would think. Nolan Ryan threw 100 mph and pitched for 24 seasons nay any major injuries. Then you take a guy like Tim Wakefield with his knuckler who's had DL stints in the past. Who knows. People said Mark Prior had perfect mechanics, then his elbow gave away cause of the inverted V motion he had going on

Or so I understand, it's not an exact science as to how all pitchers will age cause it's literally different for each person.

 

[The Riddler]

i'm surprised the giants are still in first place.

they're trying their hardest to give the division to the dbacks.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The pitching motion is likely where the injury comes from I would think. Nolan Ryan threw 100 mph and pitched for 24 seasons nay any major injuries. Then you take a guy like Tim Wakefield with his knuckler who's had DL stints in the past.

He's had DL stints recently because he's old.

 

[Duke]

i'm surprised the giants are still in first place.

they're trying their hardest to give the division to the dbacks.

So far the acquisition of Beltran has'nt helped much, & he's already missed 1 game with a little uncomfort in his hand. I don't like how it's panning out.

 

[SpideyVille]

I can't help but think that whenever people think of Carlos Beltran, they think back to that one postseason he had with Houston where he just tore the ball apart. He's been better and healthy this season, but I feel like people are still expecting him to be that player now.

 

[Duke]

I can't help but think that whenever people think of Carlos Beltran, they think back to that one postseason he had with Houston where he just tore the ball apart. He's been better and healthy this season, but I feel like people are still expecting him to be that player now.

Well, I only wish he'd start hitting above what he's currently hitting at now. (which is around 204 somewhere around there) At least get hit singles when someone is on base.....

 

[Liam_H]

That's because most people are very protective of pitchers these days, and because hitters are stronger and stadiums are smaller.

But I wonder, did pitchers throw over 80-90 back in the day, or did they just try to ge the ball past the hitter however they could. I feel like pitchers have had more injuries to their arms because they try to throw harder as opposed to actually pitch around a hitter.

Pitchers threw very different back then. Not as much stress on the arm, which allowed them to make more starts per season than any pitcher today. Hence, some of those pitching records will never be broken in this lifetime.