Official 2011 MLB Thread: Playoffs??

[SpideyVille]

Javier Vazuez's ERA has a direct correlation with fan attendance. The more fans, the more runs he allows.

As funny as this sounds, it's actually very true.

 

[Liam_H]

Tampa had such a good opportunity to catch up but they just couldn't get it done. Now the Angels are tied with them.

 

[enterthemadness]

Javier Vazuez's ERA has a direct correlation with fan attendance. The more fans, the more runs he allows.

Uh, explain 2009 ATL numbers...granted, I'm sure ATL did way under 30,000 a game. Everytime I've seen Braves highlights last few years the stadium is half empty....no joke.

In any case, he's gonna be in the top 50 all time strike outs list for a LONG time. C.C might pass him for 29th in 3 years or less.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

Resident fatty Jason Whitlock has come out with the worst article I've seen in the last five years.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/sabermetrics-moneyball-stat-geeks-are-ruining-sports-092211

I won’t be going to see "Moneyball." The movie celebrates the plague ruining sports: sabermetrics.

Classic misinterpretation of someone making judgments on the story about Moneyball without having read or seen it. It's not about pushing certain statistical analysis over others, it's about the basic concept of, in a competitive business, lesser corporations/teams/business have to do things differently in order to compete with the giants of said industry. It's been almost 10 years since the book came out and certain writers still can't comprehend it.

The stat geeks won’t let you argue. They quote sabermetrics and end all discussion. Is so-and-so a Hall of Famer? The sabermeticians will punch in the numbers and give you, in their mind, a definitive answer.

Baseless claim, cliche' position that "stat geeks live in their mother's basement"

Sabermetrics or analytics are overrunning football, too.

Football is more a team sport than baseball, it's harder to separate team chemistry from individual contribution. Not sure why this was included.

The nerds are winning. They’re stealing the game from those of us who enjoy examining the gray areas of sports. We’re about 10 years away from a computer program that will write stats-based opinion pieces on sports.

Nerds are not allowed to enjoy sports? This is the sense I'm getting here. Sports can only be enjoyed by the manly jocks and unmanly nerds aren't allowed

Imagine you applied this argument to slavery. When all the plantation owners (anti-stat nerds) were getting angry about losing their indentured servants that they could no longer abuse and what not because it broke tradition of what they believed to be true, the abolitionists (stat oriented people) had to break the mold of what certain parts of America had accepted.

Sabermetrics/analytics undermines the debate. They try to interject absolutes.

Most people who use Sabre stats may not fully understand everything themselves, and will admit that. Imagine if Microsoft used unconventional economic advantages to gain the upper hand in the industry, would people rail against them with torches and pitchforks because of this? No. Another reason why hating on 'stat geeks' is ******ed. If there weren't people crunching numbers, Wall Street and various other American institutions would cease to function. We can't have those people ruining our lives with their dumb math

The games are about more than stats.

I have seen the light, I never knew this before until now. Thank you, Whitlock.

Again, the stat geeks are winning. Our perception of athletes and their value are primarily being dictated by statistics. Peyton Manning is the king of fantasy football; therefore, he is the king of real football. LeBron James is the king of fantasy basketball; therefore, he is the king of real basketball.

I don't think anyone believes this, especially with LeBron.

The answers and the questions that make sports special, unique, our collective national pastime, can’t be found on a stat sheet. They’re in our imaginations and our individual interpretation of what we witness.

Whitlock is the ICP of sportswriters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

****ing stat geeks, how do they work?

When the "Moneyball" movie hysteria subsides, I hope the sabermeticians ****.

Yeah, that'll show those nerds, once the movie bombs, it will disintegrate the fabric of baseball analysts as we know it.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Uh, explain 2009 ATL numbers...granted, I'm sure ATL did way under 30,000 a game. Everytime I've seen Braves highlights last few years the stadium is half empty....no joke.

In any case, he's gonna be in the top 50 all time strike outs list for a LONG time. C.C might pass him for 29th in 3 years or less.

He had a good season in Atlanta and they finished 10th in the league in attendance and finished in 3rd place. It supports my theory.

 

[Liam_H]

It appears Manny needs to serve out his 100 game suspension just to play baseball anywhere again...I really wish he would just go away now.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7...eking-reinstatement-serve-100-game-suspension

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

He's better off just staying away.

 

[chesslover]

Brewers are division champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

Rangers clinched!!! Yeah

 

[John McGuirk]

DBacks clinch
Brewers clinch
Rangers clinch

Welcome, boys. You will meet your demise at the hands of Miguel Cabrera and Justin Verlander

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

I think you should be focused on the AL

mfw NL West champs

 

[BlackLantern]

Arizona just snuck up on everyone this year

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

Snuck up on its own fans too

 

[Liam_H]

Pretty surprised to hear that Jacoby Ellsbury is the first 30/30 player in Red Sox history. Despite the team free falling right now I think he makes a very good case for MVP.

 

[enterthemadness]

Uh, Red Sox fail?

 

[John McGuirk]

Red Sox and Braves fans are entering "John McGuirk's 2009 Tigers Meltdown" stage. Push the panic button!

 

[enterthemadness]

Looks like that knife is in Boston's back...let see is O's and Rays can turn it...

 

[John McGuirk]

I'd love to see the Sox lose and the Braves lose. I want fresh blood as much as possible.

 

[John McGuirk]

Ozzie Guillen apparently told the White Sox players that tonight was his last game. Wow.

Minus well fly back to Miami for next season.

 

[Liam_H]

Well its final, Red Sox/Rays season is down to just 2 games with them tied.

 

[John McGuirk]

Ozzie Guillen traded to Miami Marlins for minor league prospects.

 

[enterthemadness]

Ozzie Guillen traded to Miami Marlins for minor league prospects.

Imma watch me^ Sportscenter tonight. Glad they didn't get Stanton. It's lol worthy...I do think it's good move for tram, just weird seeing a manager traded.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'd love to see the Sox lose and the Braves lose. I want fresh blood as much as possible.

You realize that if the Sox lose that means the Rays get in. The same Rays who were just in the playoffs last season.

 

[steintym]

It was only a matter of time with Ozzie. He seemed to have one foot out the door for the last month or so.

 

[enterthemadness]

You realize that if the Sox lose that means the Rays get in. The same Rays who were just in the playoffs last season.

Rays are still considered new blood. Only been good since 2008.