Comics Official ASTONISHING X-MEN Discussion Thread

[mad_harleyq]

Oooh. Emma's Tae Bo moves will rough up Kitty's ninjitsu. Scary...really. Honest.

well you clearly no nothing about emma frost, you may favor boring old sprite, but emma just has too many resources for kitty to even come close, which were down-played, obviously if kitty is able to even surprise her much less defeat her, most likely emma let it happen, because shes not going to be evil, if emma didnt see it happening than nova or emma #2 would have, ninjitsu means nothing over mind control and a nearly indestrucible skin, face it, despite how a writer chooses to comply

 

[Red Mask]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

 

[Exploding Boy]

well you clearly no nothing about emma frost, you may favor boring old sprite, but emma just has too many resources for kitty to even come close, which were down-played, obviously if kitty is able to even surprise her much less defeat her, most likely emma let it happen, because shes not going to be evil, if emma didnt see it happening than nova or emma #2 would have, ninjitsu means nothing over mind control and a nearly indestrucible skin, face it, despite how a writer chooses to comply

Are you serious? How is indestrucible skin going to help having your heart ripped out? Dont underestimate Kitty.

 

[The Comedian]

So Kitty can make parts of herself intangible and other parts solid. Because when her leg is through the wall and kicking Emma her thigh is phased but her foot is solid.

I always assumed Kitty could always choose to render herself only partially intangible, otherwise she would just fall through the floor everytime she phased if her feet weren't tangible.

 

[Exploding Boy]

She can walk on air when she phases. So she walks a few centimeteres above the ground

 

[The Comedian]

Are you serious? How is indestrucible skin going to help having your heart ripped out? Dont underestimate Kitty.

I agree, having diamond armor is useless against someone who can phase through matter, this is uder the assumption that Emma's internal organs don't render themselves to diamond when she tranforms.

 

[The Comedian]

She can walk on air when she phases. So she walks a few centimeteres above the ground

thanks for the info, always wondered about that

 

[Exploding Boy]

I agree, having diamond armor is useless against someone who can phase through matter, this is uder the assumption that Emma's internal organs don't render themselves to diamond when she tranforms.

Well she could still stick something inside of Emma's body. But I'm pretty sure she just has a diamond exterior.

 

[Manic]

I always assumed Kitty could always choose to render herself only partially intangible, otherwise she would just fall through the floor everytime she phased if her feet weren't tangible.

Also, her clothes would fall off.

 

[BrianWilly]

Even in diamond form, Kitty could still phase Emma into a solid wall and kill her.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Even in diamond form, Kitty could still phase Emma into a solid wall and kill her.

hmm.. maybe not per se.
Emma was afterall shattered into lots and lots of little pieces but stil clung on to life.

 

[squeekness]

hmm.. maybe not per se.
Emma was afterall shattered into lots and lots of little pieces but stil clung on to life.

Yes, so the assumption should be that her whole body changes into diamond form, not just her outside.

 

[Specter313]

Yeah, but remember that when she was shattered, it was still only her body alone. If Kitty phased her into a rock, no matter what form she was in, the rock would have fused with her body, including her brain, so she would have died.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Yeah, but remember that when she was shattered, it was still only her body alone. If Kitty phased her into a rock, no matter what form she was in, the rock would have fused with her body, including her brain, so she would have died.

im sure being shattered would do just as much damage to your brain as being fused with stone.
I reckon shed still live, if only for a short time clinging on with her telepathic powers.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Kitty's clothes fall off?

 

[mad_harleyq]

Are you serious? How is indestrucible skin going to help having your heart ripped out? Dont underestimate Kitty.

youre not thinking this clear enough, but maybe i should have used better words, emma doesnt have a shield of diamond, shes is all diamond, so kitty cant take anything out, shes solid, no blood, all one big piece of diamond, she has the ultimate offence and defence, im sorry by logic kitty is pretty much powerless against emma, whether you like it or not is the real question

 

[mad_harleyq]

and yes im aware kitty can put something inside of emma or put emma inside of something, etc, but she has to touch her to do so, which emma would never allow, because she can stop little kitty with a blink of an eye, case closed

 

[danielisthor]

and yes im aware kitty can put something inside of emma or put emma inside of something, etc, but she has to touch her to do so, which emma would never allow, because she can stop little kitty with a blink of an eye, case closed

Obviously you haven't read the last issue where Kitty handed Emma her uptight snotty ass in a basket.

 

[Xplicit Content]

Emma knew Kitty was behind the wall. It was either by design, or just poor judgement, that Emma didn't take that opportunity to mentally attack Kitty, like Perfection did. She kind of just smirked in the mirror and waited for Kitty to nail her. Even though Kitty handed Emma her ass in this issue, I still think Kitty is a big underdog against Emma. Caught by surprise, Emma would lose in a fight against Kitty...but not when she knows Kitty is after her.

And unless something happened when I wasn't reading, I didn't think Kitty was able to partially phase to begin with, so I dunno how she was able to attack Emma through the wall.

 

[danielisthor]

Emma knew Kitty was behind the wall. It was either by design, or just poor judgement, that Emma didn't take that opportunity to mentally attack Kitty, like Perfection did. She kind of just smirked in the mirror and waited for Kitty to nail her. Even though Kitty handed Emma her ass in this issue, I still think Kitty is a big underdog against Emma. Caught by surprise, Emma would lose in a fight against Kitty...but not when she knows Kitty is after her.

And unless something happened when I wasn't reading, I didn't think Kitty was able to partially phase to begin with, so I dunno how she was able to attack Emma through the wall.

Kitty was phased partially into the wall/mirror, thus Emma wouldn't have been able to attack her via her mental powers as Kitty is immune to that. Since Kitty is now able to keep parts of her body phased and solid at the same time, i could argue that throughout the entire fight, Kitty kept her head and her brain phased, making Emma's psych talent useless against her. Since we've all known from the beginning that Kitty doesn't trust Emma, and the fact that Kitty is one of the smartest X-Men and a future leader, I also wouldn't put it past her, to keep said new found abilities to herself just incase she needed to use it against the one person she detests. In other words, not only did Kitty beat the snot out of her, she also outsmarted her ass as well.
And thus

Shadowcat > Emma

 

[MoPlaYa]

Kitty was phased partially into the wall/mirror, thus Emma wouldn't have been able to attack her via her mental powers as Kitty is immune to that. Since Kitty is now able to keep parts of her body phased and solid at the same time, i could argue that throughout the entire fight, Kitty kept her head and her brain phased, making Emma's psych talent useless against her. Since we've all known from the beginning that Kitty doesn't trust Emma, and the fact that Kitty is one of the smartest X-Men and a future leader, I also wouldn't put it past her, to keep said new found abilities to herself just incase she needed to use it against the one person she detests. In other words, not only did Kitty beat the snot out of her, she also outsmarted her ass as well.
And thus

Shadowcat > Emma

I agree 100%

 

[Manic]

All the people who say Emma can survive being shattered have to remember this:

Jean was the one who put Emma back together the first time. I don't see anyone else around who could telekinetically fuse shattered diamonds together, or tap into the source of all life in the Universe (ie. the Phoenix Force).

 

[mad_harleyq]

i know im the only one who is fighting for emma, and i think most people are only fighting for kitty because they love her or hate emma, and yes im quite aware what happens in the comic, to whoever made that comment, but you either choose to not read or understand my previous comments, where i said "however a writer chooses to comply" anyway my point is logic, which most of you seem to forget just because youre reading a comic, you all mention accient kitty abilities, yet you ignore emmas, emma is a genius in her own right, much like kitty, and anything she doesnt know or understand can easily be fixed either way, other than that if kitty shatters her, emma can just put her mind somewhere else, shes been in at least three of the x-mens bodies, so you can never really keep her down and how do any of you know that the emma kitty fought is really her? what if perfection is the real emma? ill leave with this, the arc isnt over and niether is emma, so i guess well just see what happens next, wont we

 

[gambitfire]

Storm is supposed to be Psychic immune to but Emma messed her up bad.

If Kitty let's her guard down for a sec she's a goner.

I give it too kitty she has the upper hand but let's not understimate Emma either, the more experienced and IMO powerful mutant.

So in the end i only give it too kitty because the writer will .

 

[Xplicit Content]

Kitty was phased partially into the wall/mirror, thus Emma wouldn't have been able to attack her via her mental powers as Kitty is immune to that. Since Kitty is now able to keep parts of her body phased and solid at the same time, i could argue that throughout the entire fight, Kitty kept her head and her brain phased, making Emma's psych talent useless against her. Since we've all known from the beginning that Kitty doesn't trust Emma, and the fact that Kitty is one of the smartest X-Men and a future leader, I also wouldn't put it past her, to keep said new found abilities to herself just incase she needed to use it against the one person she detests. In other words, not only did Kitty beat the snot out of her, she also outsmarted her ass as well.
And thus

Shadowcat > Emma

If Emma could use her mental powers to sense Kitty was behind the wall, it stands to reason that she could've also used her mental powers to stun her. I doubt it was Emma's sense of smell that gave away Kitty's presence.