Official Batman Titles thread 2.0 - Part 9

[Roose Bolton]

If that did happen I feel like that would be a huge regression for Batman as a character and series. Damian really brings something new to the myhtos and is probably one of my favorite characters created in the past decade.

I definitely agree that the lad should stay, and I'm fairly sure that DC wouldn't kill off another Robin.

Whatever happens in Inc won't be pretty though, one way or another Batman and Robin won't be coming out unscathed.

 

[Cain]

I personally always felt that it meant that Damian was going to kill his aged clone from The Return and Leviathan Strikes!. Thus killing himself in a way and how that would be such an emotionally ****ed up scenario to be in. Which is interesting.

Not that Damian would get killed. It would be hackneyed since it's once again "oh no a Robin was killed". This isn't Jason circa 1987 or Steph circa 2004 were talking about here. So it's also pretty stupid considering how popular the character became for DC once Morrison decided to keep him alive in the first place.

 

[Mystirious]

I hope he does stick around. I dig him and I dont want Bruce to lose his son

 

[Roose Bolton]

He'll probably live.
Talia on the other hand is a goner, crazy ***** isn't a valid love interest anymore and Ra's already has the international arch enemy thing covered, really death is the only thing left for her.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm not so sure DC would let Morrison kill her off

And Ra's and his wacky family don't tend to stay dead

 

[Roose Bolton]

I doubt DC say no to Morrison, the guy is like their number one moneymaker.

Plus who has actually used Talia in any real way in the last 3 years other than Morrison?

 

[Mystirious]

Though that could be because DC didn't want anyone else to use her while Morrison was doing his big story with her in Batman Inc

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, most comic book companies don't let other creators use certain characters when there is something major going on. Talia is having a major story arc going on in Morrison's Batman saga, so she's pretty much off limits to everyone else.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I guess I just don't see where Talia can go post Leviathen.

 

[Anubis]

It could turn out that she was trapped in a closet for the last 4 years and it was really her sister Nyssa.

 

[Mystirious]

Or it was Xorn

 

[Drz]

Red Hood & the Outlaws #7 Preview!

Ah Jason, finding punishments that are far worse than death. >: )

 

[Mystirious]

Speaking of Jason one of the good things about the relaunch is that at least Jason wasn't brought back by that dork Superboy Prime punching reality while having a tantrum

And Prime presumably no longer exists which is another good thing

 

[Spider-Nerd]

Mysti, how was he brought back under the reboot? Lazarus pit?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Speaking of Jason one of the good things about the relaunch is that at least Jason wasn't brought back by that dork Superboy Prime punching reality while having a tantrum

And Prime presumably no longer exists which is another good thing

I wouldn't say that to his face, he'd kill you to death

 

[Mystirious]

That quote was pretty much the only good thing about Countdown

That and Mary Marvel using Kyle as a club

Mysti, how was he brought back under the reboot? Lazarus pit?

I dont think its been revealed yet but I'm betting that's how it happened like in the movie

 

[hippie_hunter]

Damian's actions we're just incredibly forced. Leviathan Strikes did it better, here again Tomasi shows ignoring continuity to make his opening arc more new reader friendly, but as i just said, it's at the cost of continuity and just doing the same progression the character already had.

I disagree. What we have here are two completely different circumstances. In Leviathan Strikes, Damian killed Daedalus in the heat of the moment. He really didn't mean to do it, he just reacted on an impulsive instinct to save his father. With what just happened in Batman & Robin though, Damian made the conscious decision to kill Morgan. Morgan was defeated and Damian killed him anyways.

I also don't see it as ignoring continuity. While there has been much character progression with Damian, you have to take into account that he's with Bruce now. What allowed Dick to be successful is that he accepted who Damian is and worked to mold him into someone who fights for what Batman believes in. Bruce on the other hand, attempted to repress what was going on inside Damian and he refused to accept that there were some problems. Dick confronted Damian's issues while Bruce brushed them aside.

The big point that Tomasi is trying to make that Damian is probably better off with Dick and that a lot of the problems going on are Bruce's fault. Someone like Damian is naturally going to regress if they are essentially told to bottle everything up.

 

[Roose Bolton]

So...that's some pretty crazy **** with the Talon reveal

Spoiler

Dick's great-Grandfather

 

[Scarecrow_King]

something doesn't make sense in Nightwing. If [blackout]the Court took Saiko instead of Dick to be a Talon...why isn't Saiko a Talon?[/blackout]

 

[RoughNTumble]

he escaped partway through the brainwashing?

that part wasn't very clear

 

[The Batman]

No offense, but I can't wait till half of these Owl revelations are retconned.

 

[Mystirious]

So...that's some pretty crazy **** with the Talon reveal

Spoiler

Dick's great-Grandfather

And the Talons are

Spoiler

An army of re animated undead with healing factors

Did not see that coming

 

[rnewbz]

something doesn't make sense in Nightwing. If [blackout]the Court took Saiko instead of Dick to be a Talon...why isn't Saiko a Talon?[/blackout]

I thought it was because Saiko wasn't good enough to be.

 

[Roose Bolton]

And the Talons are

Spoiler

An army of re animated undead with healing factors

Did not see that coming

Notice how Talon's cells had to be kept above a certain temperature? Me thinks that's the Freeze connection.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

I loved nightwing. Thought Batman was good too. Im pretty excited for the court of owls and looking forward to seeing how it plays out across all the bat titles.....except maybe detective