Rise of the Silver Surfer Official: Fantastic Four 2 Novelization Discussion MAJOR SPOILERS!

[Noir]

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Well, unfortunately there are still a couple of "oh god" lines from Doom that almost rival "marco polo"....one in particular is about a barbque...and the SS.....just not real funny.....and I'm afraid just from the description that we are getting another sarcastic, "happy" sounding Doom.....no "RIIIIIICCCHHHHARDS" to help counteract that feeling....

you mean the

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''What is that? a Giant Barbeque pit.." in Greenland?

 

[Bishop2]

Ouch. I just read that bit about the final fight... that really, really sucks.

My anticipation for this movie just dropped like a stone.

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Johnny is my least favorite member of the four, and the one that I felt was portrayed the worst in the first movie due to the fact that he never really portrays any real heroic instincts. I'm not interested in a film based on him, especially since the first teaser trailer was already based around him.

I guess this series is going the way of X-Men, and is going to become the Human Torch franchise much like that series was really just the Wolverine franchise. How very, very sad.

 

[Sentinel X]

Im going to buy the book @ borders this weekend but a few questions first

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What were some evil things Doom did...such as that "turning the general inside out" scene?

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Is there still a family essence between the four, have the charecters improved and do they use their powers more often?(this goes especially for Reed and Ben)

Thanks in adv to anyone who answers t:

 

[Kelly]

Im going to buy the book @ borders this weekend but a few questions first

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What were some evil things Doom did...such as that "turning the general inside out" scene?

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The novelization describes that scene, more grusome than I ever could....that scene alone will keep it at a PG 13 rating, and could easily hit on an R.....Doom with the board will be amazing if it comes across on the bigscreen

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Is there still a family essence between the four, have the charecters improved and do they use their powers more often?(this goes especially for Reed and Ben)

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as far as the family dynamic, its all over the novelization, in every relationship...

 

[Iron Maiden]

ooopps... duplicate post

 

[Iron Maiden]

Well, I did finish the book and I have to agree...

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They have to lose that "barbeque pit" line. I hope it was the book writer's either putting that in or something that got dropped from an early version of the script.

Parts I like about Doom's return

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The scene where he comes back to life and that rips off his mask in the castle has a great potential. There's not a lot of dialogue but it leaves room for more of a physical performance and a setting of the mood. The castle is described as neglected and shows sign of decay, much like what happened when Doom abandoned his original castle in the Adironacks from his first appearance in FF#5 and he returned to it in the solo story in Marvel Superheroes #20. What confused me, and they are never mentioned again, are the 2 Americans that happen to be on the scene when Victor is awakened. Why are they there and what was their function? Were they working for General Hagar? Did I miss something there? Another case of maybe the writer not being given the entire script I am guessing. The scenes of Latveria are fleeting and they show that the country is without a strong leader, which could leave room for Doom's taking the reigns of power at home. I at least get the impression that they are trying to imply that Doom will one day rebuild the country and put reforms in place.

They do seem to be going more for the Ultimate Doom's lineage, where instead of being from humble beginnings, he comes from a regional dynasty. They have Victor looking at a hall of family portraits where it is shown that his family has ruled Latveria for centuries. I recall in the deleted scene from the first movie, Victor goes on about his poor beginnings in Latveria. This is kind of a wash for me because I don't think the Kirby panels of quaint gypsy wagons would fly today anyway. I would have preferred he were more like the morally damaged political revolutionary that Ellis and Moore created in Doom 2099 that liberated Latveria from the rule of oppressive foreign corporations.

Parts I have some qualms about...

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As in the first movie, Victor really doesn't have a lot of lines here, and none that are particulary memorable but I suppose that could depend on their delivery. I also wish it were more of a solo effort when Doom gets the Power Cosmic. He is working in concert on the project to study the board with Reed and it is Reed's idea about the tachyon emissions that is the key to manipulating the powers from the board.

As for Ben and Alicia

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I think both of their roles could have been played up a bit more. Ben has no real fight with Doom in this one and as mentioned before it's Johnny's show, the one of the group that Doom has always usually the least problems handling when they have gone one on one. His flame power had no effect once Doom had the Surfer's powers so I guess they had to think of someway defeat Doom without Galactus playing a part. Alicia has no interaction at all with Norrin Radd and the writer never really does anything with her other than acting as Sue's confidante prior to the wedding. I have been resigned to this for a while and I really would have liked to see Alicia's role with the Surfer maintained somehow.

One thing I did like, and I don't think you can call this a spoiler, is that the Four will join hands like they do in the comic book.

 

[Kelly]

Well, I did finish the book and I have to agree...

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They have to lose that "barbeque pit" line. I hope it was the book writer's either putting that in or something that got dropped from an early version of the script.

Parts I like about Doom's return

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The scene where he comes back to life and that rips off his mask in the castle has a great potential. There's not a lot of dialogue but it leaves room for more of a physical performance and a setting of the mood. The castle is described as neglected and shows sign of decay, much like what happened when Doom abandoned his original castle in the Adironacks from his first appearance in FF#5 and he returned to it in the solo story in Marvel Superheroes #20. What confused me, and they are never mentioned again, are the 2 Americans that happen to be on the scene when Victor is awakened. Why are they there and what was their function? Were they working for General Hagar? Did I miss something there? Another case of maybe the writer not being given the entire script I am guessing. The scenes of Latveria are fleeting and they show that the country is without a strong leader, which could leave room for Doom's taking the reigns of power at home. I at least get the impression that they are trying to imply that Doom will one day rebuild the country and put reforms in place.

They do seem to be going more for the Ultimate Doom's lineage, where instead of being from humble beginnings, he comes from a regional dynasty. They have Victor looking at a hall of family portraits where it is shown that his family has ruled Latveria for centuries. I recall in the deleted scene from the first movie, Victor goes on about his poor beginnings in Latveria. This is kind of a wash for me because I don't think the Kirby panels of quaint gypsy wagons would fly today anyway. I would have preferred he were more like the morally damaged political revolutionary that Ellis and Moore created in Doom 2099 that liberated Latveria from the rule of oppressive foreign corporations.

Parts I have some qualms about...

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As in the first movie, Victor really doesn't have a lot of lines here, and none that are particulary memorable but I suppose that could depend on their delivery. I also wish it were more of a solo effort when Doom gets the Power Cosmic. He is working in concert on the project to study the board with Reed and it is Reed's idea about the tachyon emissions that is the key to manipulating the powers from the board.

As for Ben and Alicia

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I think both of their roles could have been played up a bit more. Ben has no real fight with Doom in this one and as mentioned before it's Johnny's show, the one of the group that Doom has always usually the least problems handling when they have gone one on one. His flame power had no effect once Doom had the Surfer's powers so I guess they had to think of someway defeat Doom without Galactus playing a part. Alicia has no interaction at all with Norrin Radd and the writer never really does anything with her other than acting as Sue's confidante prior to the wedding. I have been resigned to this for a while and I really would have liked to see Alicia's role with the Surfer maintained somehow.

One thing I did like, and I don't think you can call this a spoiler, is that the Four will join hands like they do in the comic book.

That's only a spoiler to those that know what the heck you are talking about......lol.....and yes that was a nice touch....

I thought character wise this was a much stronger look at the 4 themselves...

 

[GoblinScrier]

Well Iron Maiden, I was hoping someone like you would finish the book that is as passionate about Doom as me and I want to ask you your opinion on a couple of things:

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Don't you think they definitely have captured Doom's power hunger a lot better? What did you think of his displays of power after he got a hold of the cosmic power? The Great Wall of China being randomly tossed around or the mountain peaks used as missles? I loved his confrontation with the Surfer in Greenland (despite his bbq pit line). I sincerely hope the effort is made to have Doom have a couple of truly memorable lines. If the delivery is right, the line that Doom could give chills to is the part when the F4 see that he is alive and he says that "you look like you've seen a ghost." Also, when his voice becomes otherworldly when he has the power....there are so many Doom-like moments this time, though his dialogue could be improved. Just hope they have included a scene of Doom calling Mr. Fantastic "Richards." It's so easy to have him say that versus a line of him saying Reed or Dr. Richards or something along those lines.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Parts I like about Doom's return

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The scene where he comes back to life and that rips off his mask in the castle has a great potential. There's not a lot of dialogue but it leaves room for more of a physical performance and a setting of the mood. The castle is described as neglected and shows sign of decay, much like what happened when Doom abandoned his original castle in the Adironacks from his first appearance in FF#5 and he returned to it in the solo story in Marvel Superheroes #20. What confused me, and they are never mentioned again, are the 2 Americans that happen to be on the scene when Victor is awakened. Why are they there and what was their function? Were they working for General Hagar? Did I miss something there? Another case of maybe the writer not being given the entire script I am guessing. The scenes of Latveria are fleeting and they show that the country is without a strong leader, which could leave room for Doom's taking the reigns of power at home. I at least get the impression that they are trying to imply that Doom will one day rebuild the country and put reforms in place.

They do seem to be going more for the Ultimate Doom's lineage, where instead of being from humble beginnings, he comes from a regional dynasty. They have Victor looking at a hall of family portraits where it is shown that his family has ruled Latveria for centuries. I recall in the deleted scene from the first movie, Victor goes on about his poor beginnings in Latveria. This is kind of a wash for me because I don't think the Kirby panels of quaint gypsy wagons would fly today anyway. I would have preferred he were more like the morally damaged political revolutionary that Ellis and Moore created in Doom 2099 that liberated Latveria from the rule of oppressive foreign corporations.

If given a choice:

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I would have stuck with Doom's humble roots. When you look maniacal figures in history: Hitler, Stallin, Saddam Hussein, one thing you notice is that nearly all of them came from humble roots. I think there's a feeling of jealousy and anger from being in a position in which others have authority over you that can lead to the kind of brutal dictatorships we've seen. I found that element of Doom highly compelling in the original stories and I wish they would have stuck with it.

And here's something I mentioned before (either here or a different site) and now that you and others have had a chance to read it, I'm curious on other's interpretations:

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I found the descriptions of Latveria and its poverty interesting. I was wondering if there was almost an Arthurian connection between Doom and Latveria and his condition was reflected in Latveria.

I remember suggesting after the first film that he could have been the ruler of Latveria at the time of the first film. Is that implied in those opening scenes?

 

[GoblinScrier]

If given a choice:

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I would have stuck with Doom's humble roots. When you look maniacal figures in history: Hitler, Stallin, Saddam Hussein, one thing you notice is that nearly all of them came from humble roots. I think there's a feeling of jealousy and anger from being in a position in which others have authority over you that can lead to the kind of brutal dictatorships we've seen. I found that element of Doom highly compelling in the original stories and I wish they would have stuck with it.

And here's something I mentioned before (either here or a different site) and now that you and others have had a chance to read it, I'm curious on other's interpretations:

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I found the descriptions of Latveria and its poverty interesting. I was wondering if there was almost an Arthurian connection between Doom and Latveria and his condition was reflected in Latveria.

I remember suggesting after the first film that he could have been the ruler of Latveria at the time of the first film. Is that implied in those opening scenes?

Well, Willie, my thoughts on Doom

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and the descriptions of a poor Latveria make me believe that perhaps Doom is already the ruler of Latveria but b/c he has been in America "ruling" through corporate means, shows that he hasn't been there to enfore the monarchy thus the country falls apart. However, it could be that Doom is not the ruler and that he is waiting to seize power from the current ruler (Vladimir? Rudolpho?) because the current headpower doesn't care about the country falling apart and with Doom's genius, he could build the country to look something out of a fairy tale, only with an "enforced monarchy."

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Well, Willie, my thoughts on Doom

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and the descriptions of a poor Latveria make me believe that perhaps Doom is already the ruler of Latveria but b/c he has been in America "ruling" through corporate means, shows that he hasn't been there to enfore the monarchy thus the country falls apart. However, it could be that Doom is not the ruler and that he is waiting to seize power from the current ruler (Vladimir? Rudolpho?) because the current headpower doesn't care about the country falling apart and with Doom's genius, he could build the country to look something out of a fairy tale, only with an "enforced monarchy."

That would be interesting if they could explore some of that in a future film.

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It would be interesting if they could show Doom transform the country from the poor country we saw to the Latveria we know from the comics. In the comics, we started post-Doom, so we never really got to see the transformation, but that could make an interesting element in a future film.

 

[Iron Maiden]

Well Iron Maiden, I was hoping someone like you would finish the book that is as passionate about Doom as me and I want to ask you your opinion on a couple of things:

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Don't you think they definitely have captured Doom's power hunger a lot better? What did you think of his displays of power after he got a hold of the cosmic power? The Great Wall of China being randomly tossed around or the mountain peaks used as missles? I loved his confrontation with the Surfer in Greenland (despite his bbq pit line). I sincerely hope the effort is made to have Doom have a couple of truly memorable lines. If the delivery is right, the line that Doom could give chills to is the part when the F4 see that he is alive and he says that "you look like you've seen a ghost." Also, when his voice becomes otherworldly when he has the power....there are so many Doom-like moments this time, though his dialogue could be improved. Just hope they have included a scene of Doom calling Mr. Fantastic "Richards." It's so easy to have him say that versus a line of him saying Reed or Dr. Richards or something along those lines.

Hi GS, I think it's safe to say without using spoiler tags that I do feel that Doom's lines could very easily have been changed to have less of the colloquialisms, which he despises, to be a bit more aloof and formal in his speech mannerisms. It's another method I feel he uses to separate himself from the rest of us.

As for the scope of his powers

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, I agree at least they show him doing some feats of destruction to show just how powerful he has become. I do hope that there is some hint that the power has sort of unhinged him, an intoxicating effect as described in the book.

 

[Tempest19]

So Tempest believes that the "cloud" really IS Galactus, despite Willie saying earlier that it's totally not... hmmmm.

My one question is what's all this about a "love triangle"? Is Sue actually going to get interested or flirt with the Silver Surfer? Is he falling for Sue? Because that's lame on both counts, but ESPECIALLY the first one.

Well, not that he was the cloud per say- I always saw his giant eyes looking down over Earth from the skies above, but we never get a good look at him- and only comic book fans would know that that is Galactus and not something to do with the storm.

That way we aren't faced with Godzilla-like Galactus walking through NYC.

And about me liking giant Sandman but not Galactus, I just don't think it would translate well without looking like Godzilla. Sandman, in a way, remains in one area- Galactus would be walking through New York City! And thus the "giant monster" a la Godzilla routine that I just don't find fitting...

I don't really want to see this:

I would rather see/imply this:

The second is more menacing and intimidating- at least to me- seeing Galactus looking down on the world and being bigger than life and not just Godzilla size... I don't know, to me that's always been a lot more intimidating than Godzilla Galactus.

And the thing I think they don't know yet and are working on is for:

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When the Silver Surfer and Johnny go back into outer space again. HERE is the are that we could see a part of Galactus. Looking down on the world. And this is also why I think they don't know yet- they're playing around with this moment of special effects to see if it looks good or not... so, we might see Galactus- we might not. If we do, it's most likely going to be this outer space scene... hopefully... because as said- I'm not very fond of Godzilla Galactus.

And after going everything on a ground level to this- it would be a HUGE pay off and cause everyone to gape in awe and wonderment saying "holy ****!" Now this is the moment that I think they could be going for and are open for, if it works-

 

[Dragon]

Well, not that he was the cloud per say- I always saw his giant eyes looking down over Earth from the skies above, but we never get a good look at him- and only comic book fans would know that that is Galactus and not something to do with the storm.

That way we aren't faced with Godzilla-like Galactus walking through NYC.

And about me liking giant Sandman but not Galactus, I just don't think it would translate well without looking like Godzilla. Sandman, in a way, remains in one area- Galactus would be walking through New York City! And thus the "giant monster" a la Godzilla routine that I just don't find fitting...

I don't really want to see this:

And you actually believe that this picture represents the best that could be done with Galactus fighting the FF-

Even though we've seen the likes of this:

 

[Iron Maiden]

If given a choice:

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I would have stuck with Doom's humble roots. When you look maniacal figures in history: Hitler, Stallin, Saddam Hussein, one thing you notice is that nearly all of them came from humble roots. I think there's a feeling of jealousy and anger from being in a position in which others have authority over you that can lead to the kind of brutal dictatorships we've seen. I found that element of Doom highly compelling in the original stories and I wish they would have stuck with it.

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That's a very good analogy, just as the tragic cycle of abused children frequently become abusers themselves as adults.

And here's something I mentioned before (either here or a different site) and now that you and others have had a chance to read it, I'm curious on other's interpretations:

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I found the descriptions of Latveria and its poverty interesting. I was wondering if there was almost an Arthurian connection between Doom and Latveria and his condition was reflected in Latveria.

I remember suggesting after the first film that he could have been the ruler of Latveria at the time of the first film. Is that implied in those opening scenes?

I still don't know what to make of

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the two people being present at the palace/mansion and the welder who torches the mask loose... why were they there?? I didn't get the sense that they were servants or something like that. The scenes that show Doom refamiliarizing himself with his surroundings are also a bit vague. The book does hint that the has thoughts of using brute strength to achieve his goals as opposed to the financial wheeling and dealing but I hope they are more specific in the movie about what his goals are for Latveria and that he gets sidetracked by the narcotic effect of having all that power at his disposal

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I still don't know what to make of

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the two people being present at the palace/mansion and the welder who torches the mask loose... why were they there?? I didn't get the sense that they were servants or something like that. The scenes that show Doom refamiliarizing himself with his surroundings are also a bit vague. The book does hint that the has thoughts of using brute strength to achieve his goals as opposed to the financial wheeling and dealing but I hope they are more specific in the movie about what his goals are for Latveria and that he gets sidetracked by the narcotic effect of having all that power at his disposal

There is clearly a LOT that is left out of the book. I'm not sure if it's by design or sloppy or rushed writing, incomplete information on the author's part or some combination.

I was also very curious about the

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two Americans. Why did he specify that they were American? Was it just to make a connection to the first film and his time in the US, or is there something more? Were they supposed to be CIA? Shield? Just a couple admirers? I have a feeling we'll learn more either in this film or a future one.

Personally I was hoping for Boris.

 

[Tempest19]

I could stand this:

But, you start to make him walk- it's game over.

Note- Giant Sandman doesn't even walk around NYC.

Because walking giant= Godzilla-type B monster.

Or at least for me, because- personally I don't like Godzilla Galactus. But I love the omniponent and all powerful Galactus that the Galactus looking over Earth from his perch above presents.

It's a matter of personal preference as well as not thinking Godzilla Galactus could work...

 

[fantastic fifth]

Was Leonard or whatever his name was in the novel?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Was Leonard or whatever his name was in the novel?

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No. And I don't believe he has been listed anywhere in any credits, so I don't think he's in the film.

 

[Dragon]

I could stand this:

But, you start to make him walk- it's game over.

Note- Giant Sandman doesn't even walk around NYC.

Because walking giant= Godzilla-type B monster.

Or at least for me, because- personally I don't like Godzilla Galactus. But I love the omniponent and all powerful Galactus that the Galactus looking over Earth from his perch above presents.

It's a matter of personal preference as well as not thinking Godzilla Galactus could work...

First off- when has Galactus ever strolled around Manhattan like Godzilla, knocking over buildings and so forth? He's not a near-mindless creature confused about his environment and reacting with violence.

Second- in defense of your position you keep pulling up the crappiest imagery ever.

Try these:

And giant Sandman does move. Spidey tries to escape him and Sandman pursues Spidey. Sam Raimi, while directing the crowds in New York for Spidey 3 says so, guiding their attention to a moviing spotlight that represents Sandman's movement.

If you have issues with the basic concept of Galactus period, then they'll be no pleasing you anyway. But just because you can't envision it working doesn't mean it can't.

 

[Tempest19]

I thought, might be wrong- that he was the man in the first scene in Doom's castle... even though he wasn't named, seemed to be him.

 

[Tempest19]

You really didn't give one shot of Galactus walking through the city. Just regular Galactus shots. As I said, Galactus itself would be cool to see- but, not as much walking through the city.

I remember a scene from the cartoon that I don't really think would look good on screen and I PERSONALLY don't want to see on screen.

You do understand that your opinion is not fact don't you? So STOP trying to prove me wrong... we both see things differently. We both would do it in a completely different way than one another.

I HATE Galactus in the city and love Galactus the omniponent looking down over Earth.... why is it so hard to see why someone might think this way?

There aren't shots of Galactus in the city really- for some reason- I mean, heck you came up with NONE to prove otherwise... that toy pic was the best I could find.

And Alex Ross- at least I think-? WAY better than all of ur pics combined. And as I said- they go with his designs and concepts, it would work... but, cartoon type Galactus- hell no! It wouldn't look that good...

 

[Dragon]

You really didn't give one shot of Galactus walking through the city. Just regular Galactus shots. As I said, Galactus itself would be cool to see- but, not as much walking through the city.

Wel, for one thing, those are still images. But did you miss where I said above that Galactus doesn't stroll through cities? That's not his style. Why would he need to? But he is walking in the bottom image.

I remember a scene from the cartoon that I don't really think would look good on screen and I PERSONALLY don't want to see on screen.

Again dude- you're talking about the ARTWORK. Not how Galactus would or could look onscreen. Just because someone animates him poorly doesn't mean it can't be done beautifully by someone else.

You do understand that your opinion is not fact don't you? So STOP trying to prove me wrong... we both see things differently. We both would do it in a completely different way than one another.

No- actually it is a fact- that anything can be presented well or crappy, depending on the ability and approach of those involved. YOU may not personally like it no matter how it's done. But your opinion isn't fact either.

I HATE Galactus in the city and love Galactus the omniponent looking down over Earth.... why is it so hard to see why someone might think this way?

It isn't. But again your point is merely a dislike, the way that I hate coconut. But I don't let my opinion suggest that coconut can't be tasty and delicious.

There aren't shots of Galactus in the city really- for some reason- I mean, heck you came up with NONE to prove otherwise... that toy pic was the best I could find.

Three of the shots I posted are of Galactus in cities.

And this makes my point. You're imagining Galactus in the city from a certain perspective. There are other ways to shoot a sequence of Galactus attacking the city than those you've presented.

And Alex Ross- at least I think-? WAY better than all of ur pics combined. And as I said- they go with his designs and concepts, it would work... but, cartoon type Galactus- hell no! It wouldn't look that good...

Dude- Alex Ross's Galactus is an EXACT representation of Kirby's. Many of the panels in Marvels come directly from FF's 48-50. Don't you think that Ross's style, being that it's hyper-real is what filmmakers would be going for?

 

[wobbly]

I really don't get, nor like, this Godzilla/Galactus link being make as an obvious attempt to excuse Fox not using the traditional version of Galactus.

First of all Godzilla, both the original Toho version (which I'd guess is what those invoking the name want us to think of) and the later American makeover, have only one thing in common with Galactus: they are both big.

Other than that I think twinning up a stomping all too fake cheesy rubber monster like this:

With this:

Is about a valid as a hand written lottery ticket.

Now if anyone doesn't like the traditional Galactus or doesn't think it will work on screen that's fine, that's your opinion, and since this movie certainly wont prove if it could work one way or another it will remain open for debate, but please stop with referring to Galactus as if he is just some sort of Godzilla clone, he is nothing like that at all.

 

[Tempest19]

It can be good or bad. Yes.

But, saying one is better than the other? OPINION.

Live with that dude, jesus christ- I don't see why it's so hard to get through that thick skull of yours that someone can like omnipotent Galactus over city Galactus.

What's so hard to understand?

Fine, yeah- it CAN look good... but, would it look as good and powerful as Galactus looking down on Earth? In opinion- hell no... in yours, yes. Your stance on this is not fact, it's opinion- so stop trying to force your beliefs down my throat dude.

Fine, I got it- you like City Galactus... I don't... big fckin' deal. I mean, seriously-

And to the poster above, referencing the shots- specifically the shots from Skyscrapper perspective of seeing Galactus walking through the streets from the corners of the sky scrappers- if you've seen the cartoons- this is what I'm referencing as the 'Godzilla' angles... I never meant to infer that Galactus is mindless, just that it would look like and have the same angles, most likely, as Godzilla 98'.

The design of Galactus could be awesome, no doubt- as I myself said to seeing Galactus looking down on Earth from above (another iconic Galactus image from the comics- BTW)... but I would rather see Galactus in outer space then walking around the city for it to have more of an epic scope... and for the reveal to be that much more powerful.

What's so hard to understand about this? ... I have no idea.

You like city Galactus, big whoop-te-do- good for you. Doesn't mean I have to. The image of Galactus that is most powerful for me is seeing Galactus from outer space looking down on Earth... gives him more of a 'weight' and 'omnipotent' presence. I mean, to the REAL Galactus - and not some sized down version- Earth is the size of a basketball in his control. THIS is the Galactus I want to see.

I'm not saying let's see Galactus as some natural effect and cloud only... what I am saying is let's SEE or at least HINT to Galactus' power to it's FULLEST extent. He's the DEVOUR OF WORLDS, with just some Godzilla SIZED Galactus- you can't see that... but, with the larger than Earth Galactus?! Wow- now THAT'S intimidating!