Iron Man 3 Official Iron Man 3 rate/review thread. - Part 1

[T"Challa]

8.5/10

I thought it was awesome entertainment. I found this ballyhooed 'twist' really hilarious. Mt entire theatre was cracking up. Kingsley was awesome and RDJ had his best performance of the trilogy. And surprisingly, the kid didn't annoy me..i love the way Black handled that relationship.

 

[Flemm]

Thanks! I can't believe this joke escalated like that.

Well, that article doesn't really bother me. People react to things differently. She explains her feelings clearly enough, so she's entitled to do that.

Ultimately, as another poster already pointed out, it's clear that Thor considers Loki his brother. So, for that reason, I disagree with her. But whatever.

 

[ChukNoris]

What makes Iron Man 3 a bad film is the time spent with moronic and unlikable characters - Rebeca Hall as Maya Hansen brought nothing to the film. Were we supposed to feel something for her character? Did she have a change of heart, was she really a good guy or a bad guy - I guess we're supposed to decide for ourselves? Once again, War Machine is underutilized. The government turns to one, singular individual to hunt down the world's biggest terrorist? Really? You're telling me S.H.I.E.L.D. [Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division], Black Widow, Nick Fury, etc. wouldn't be all over this? This type of situation is precisely what the organization was created for, hell S.H.I.E.L.D. would have to be grossly inept to have let The Mandarin situation progress to such a level. Predictably, Rhodey not only fails miserably at his task, he gets his suit stolen rather easily and ends up needing to be rescued by Tony. In fact, this might be the worst depiction of Rhodey in all three films as he's nothing but a bumbling, inept (tiny) bruiser that's often the butt-end of the joke. There are a few bright spots like the casual evil of James Badge Dale's Savin and Ty Simpkin's Harley but the film simply didn't have the right balance of screen time between its supporting characters.

From comic book movie

So let me get this right, Iron Man 2 sucked because of S.H.I.E.L.D involvement, Iron Man 3 sucked because of the lack of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

I liked Iron Man 2, LOVED Iron Man 3 (Even the twist).

I don't understand

 

[divan]

A very solid 8. This was, in my opinion, the most investing, intelligent and ambitious movie of the MCU, though Iron Man feels like a better 'assembled' film (this was a bit more sloppy in its pacing and I would have cut some of the humour in the final battle) though despite those flaws it's still my 3rd favorite MCU movie.

 

[The Batman]

Saw this last night at 9 O Clock. IMO, it was an overall fun movie, but I can only really give it about 7.5/10.

RDJ turned out another great performance. He was snarky and dramatic at all the right times, and the character development actually felt like it was there, unlike Iron Man 2.

Gwenyth Paltrow’s Pepper continues to be the best onscreen comic book love interest, and she gets more to do, and the way her involvement is executed isn’t cheesy at all when it easily could’ve been.

Rebecca Hall is talented, and she is, IMO, cute (really wish she would’ve been Rachel Dawes in BB/TDK), but her character was a nonfactor. Glad they didn’t go a clichéd love triangle route, but still…Maya Hansen didn’t really need to be in this movie.

Speaking of just being there, that’s how I felt about Rhodey, to be honest. The War Machine jokes and the buddy cop aspects were there, but Rhodey was just along for the ride, unfortunately.

Ty Simpkins plays one of the few cool kid sidekicks in any film. He and RDJ were great together.

The Mansion Attack and the Air Force One rescues were fun action sequences for sure, though not on the level of Avengers as some seemed to imply.

And as for the villains….

Spoiler

I’m one of those guys who did not like the idea of the twist when I heard about it. And after watching the film…I still don’t care about it. Do I get the idea behind it? Sure. Do I understand that the general audience would like it? Of course. Dosen’t mean I have to think it’s the best thing ever. The Batman Begins twist works because the actual villain is much more interesting than the decoy. Here, its pretty much the opposite. I did not care for the character of Aldrich Killian in the slightest. The concept of decoy Mandarin seemed far more interesting: the idea of this Caucasian man who acts like a muslim terrorist, dresses in eastern style clothing, and talks like a southern preacher was a great concept for a modern Mandarin. Instead we got…yet ANOTHER businessman gone mad.

Yeah, Killian shoots fire from his mouth, uses decoy tricks, has cool tattoos, and can give Tony a thrashing. But if being uber capable were the only mark of great villainy, then Batman’s rogue’s gallery wouldn’t be as respected as they are. I’m not exactly angry about the twist, but Kingsley being the actual Mandarin would’ve been a lot more interesting than what we got. Killian for me is just...forgettable.

As I said, IM3 is an overall fun movie, but I would not place it on the same level as IM1 or The Avengers. It’s a good summer blockbuster, but not one that changes the game the same way Avengers, or IM1 did.

 

[Incredible Hans]

From comic book movie

So let me get this right, Iron Man 2 sucked because of S.H.I.E.L.D involvement, Iron Man 3 sucked because of the lack of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

I liked Iron Man 2, LOVED Iron Man 3 (Even the twist).

I don't understand

I do.

In IM2, SHIELD intervention didn't make that much sense.

In IM3, SHIELD not intervening didn't make much sense.

That doesn't necessarily mean that SHIELD had to be in IM3. It means they should have brought up a good explanation in the movie why SHIELD is currently unable to hunt the Mandarin.

Having SHIELd in IM2 was a little bit pointless.

In IM3, it is a good question why SHIELD remained inactive. It's a plot hole. So I'd say the guy's point is valid.

 

[J.Howlett]

Oh boy, second viewing wasn't as good as the first. Because of the shared universe aspect, certain things that needed to be explain aren't. The comedy at certain moments didn't land and with the tone of the story, it feels slightly unwarranted. Rhodey's role is actually worse in this film. He feels completely incompetent. But, Cheadle is good. The villain's plot is almost nonexistent.

But, the character through line is right. The action in this film is the best action in any of the MCU films, including the Avengers. The visual effects are stellar. Best score in an Iron Man film by far. Has the right ending. With what little we got of Pepper, Paltrow is great.

I'd love to see a true director's cut of this film.

Honestly, I'm split right down the middle with this film now. The barometer was my wife. She loves the first two Iron Man films. Doesn't know the comic at all...just the films. And, she wasn't impressed. She kept asking, "Why isn't SHIELD apart of this plot that deals with terrorism and a plot against the President?" Her words, not mine.

50/50 right now, fellas. First time I can remember where my first viewing was drastically different than the second...in a negative way.

 

[ElMariachi]

A very solid 8. This was, in my opinion, the most investing, intelligent and ambitious movie of the MCU, though Iron Man feels like a better 'assembled' film (this was a bit more sloppy in its pacing and I would have cut some of the humour in the final battle) though despite those flaws it's still my 3rd favorite MCU movie.

This is a pretty good review of the movie.

Iron Man 1 was put together a bit better but Iron Man 3 was far more ambitious. They took a much bigger swing making this movie than they did for IM/IM2/Avengers. I have to give them credit for that. I'm not saying Iron Man 1 was played safe but it really didn't push the envelope in regards to the action scenes. They were pretty short whereas Iron Man 3 was pretty 'balls to the wall'.

The funny thing is how much praise Avengers gets for doing the same things as Iron Man 3. There was so much humour in Avengers during pivotal, dramatic scenes. Example A, Stark being Stark after Captain America lays down some words of wisdom. The Avengers was a great movie but it's not like the plot was Oscar worthy either. They played it simple in quite a few situations. No different than most superhero movies.

 

[darkslayer101]

I have a question about the film:

Spoiler

Has Tony ever removed the shrapnel by his heart in any comic book series? This is the only part of the movie where I had a question. Yes, I know that Tony is still Iron Man even without the arc reactor and I know that's the point of the movie. I always liked how his character had some sort of deficiency that made him a little more human.

in the extremis comic [BLACKOUT]tony has his shrapnel removed at the beginning, saying medical tech didn't exist before but exist now. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[J.Howlett]

I do.

In IM2, SHIELD intervention didn't make that much sense.

In IM3, SHIELD not intervening didn't make much sense.

That doesn't necessarily mean that SHIELD had to be in IM3. It means they should have brought up a good explanation in the movie why SHIELD is currently unable to hunt the Mandarin.

Having SHIELd in IM2 was a little bit pointless.

In IM3, it is a good question why SHIELD remained inactive. It's a plot hole. So I'd say the guy's point is valid.

This. See, with the Avengers, we see Tony Stark extensively active, working with SHIELD. We get a good idea, in the Avengers, about the umbrella that SHIELD has when it deals with issues of the homeland and the world. So, when you get a plot that actually deals with a seriously homeland situation, i.e, the President of the United States, it does make some sense for SHIELD to be apart of this.

On top of this, you don't see a few SHIELD agents with, say, Hawkeye to locate on the Avengers who's presumed dead?

I admire Shane Black's complete focus on answering the question of who is Iron Man with this third picture. It completely makes sense to where we saw Tony at the beginning of his journey. I think he absolutely kills it with the action and spectacle in this film.

But, everything around the really great starts to fall all the way apart on a second viewing.

Spoiler

I mean, Tony's traumatized by the death of Pepper

, but it doesn't take more than 45 seconds before RDJ cracks a joke after the moment. Doesn't work.

 

[Mr.T]

Oh boy, second viewing wasn't as good as the first. Because of the shared universe aspect, certain things that needed to be explain aren't. The comedy at certain moments didn't land and with the tone of the story, it feels slightly unwarranted. Rhodey's role is actually worse in this film. He feels completely incompetent. But, Cheadle is good. The villain's plot is almost nonexistent.

But, the character through line is right. The action in this film is the best action in any of the MCU films, including the Avengers. The visual effects are stellar. Best score in an Iron Man film by far. Has the right ending. With what little we got of Pepper, Paltrow is great.

I'd love to see a true director's cut of this film.

Honestly, I'm split right down the middle with this film now. The barometer was my wife. She loves the first two Iron Man films. Doesn't know the comic at all...just the films. And, she wasn't impressed. She kept asking, "Why isn't SHIELD apart of this plot that deals with terrorism and a plot against the President?" Her words, not mine.

50/50 right now, fellas. First time I can remember where my first viewing was drastically different than the second...in a negative way.

I know exactly what you're getting at. The shared universe cat is out of the bag, it's too hard to isolate these characters and put them against any major threats without the "questions" popping up left and right. Even though I knew it wasn't happening, I really kept expecting Captain America to pop up trying to board Air Force 1.

And before I get ripped, I liked the movie.

 

[ElMariachi]

Oh boy, second viewing wasn't as good as the first. Because of the shared universe aspect, certain things that needed to be explain aren't. The comedy at certain moments didn't land and with the tone of the story, it feels slightly unwarranted. Rhodey's role is actually worse in this film. He feels completely incompetent. But, Cheadle is good. The villain's plot is almost nonexistent.

But, the character through line is right. The action in this film is the best action in any of the MCU films, including the Avengers. The visual effects are stellar. Best score in an Iron Man film by far. Has the right ending. With what little we got of Pepper, Paltrow is great.

I'd love to see a true director's cut of this film.

Honestly, I'm split right down the middle with this film now. The barometer was my wife. She loves the first two Iron Man films. Doesn't know the comic at all...just the films. And, she wasn't impressed. She kept asking, "Why isn't SHIELD apart of this plot that deals with terrorism and a plot against the President?" Her words, not mine.

50/50 right now, fellas. First time I can remember where my first viewing was drastically different than the second...in a negative way.

I hate it when people ask questions to things they already know the answer to. The answer of course is that this is called Iron Man 3, not Avengers 2! There has to be some leeway to the MCU unless people want SHIELD to become deus ex machina.

I suppose you could make an argument for why SHIELD wasn't in the movie. What was SHIELD supposed to do about the attack on Tony's mansion? The entire sequence of the attack was what, ten minutes? Unless the Helicarrier added a hyperdrive, not sure what difference they could have made. For a stretch of the movie, Tony is cut off from the world. He could have made a call when he 'landed' but that's just not how Tony operates. He doesn't exactly trust SHIELD at all and his ego trumps all. The film did mention SHIELD looking into the Mandarin. How were they supposed to know about Killian and AIM being behind it? The US military clearly had no idea, why would SHIELD? The Air Force One sequence. Not sure what SHIELD could do about this either. It was a spur of the moment thing that only Tony could respond to. Sorry, Thor is the only flier that could have made a difference here. Maybe the Hulk but what is Bruce Banner supposed to do about an incident that wasn't even aware of?

 

[J.Howlett]

I know exactly what you're getting at. The shared universe cat is out of the bag, it's too hard to isolate these characters and put them against any major threats without the "questions" popping up left and right. Even though I knew it wasn't happening, I really kept expecting Captain America to pop up trying to board Air Force 1.

Yep. This is why, in my opinion, the Thor franchise won't have this problem because he's off world in other dimensions. Frankly, you might as well integrate Captain America and the Iron Man franchise into one. Because they are sort of real world based, these questions are always going to come up now.

Winter Solider will have the perfect excuse as to where Tony Stark is when **** goes down. He's presumed dead. Yet, that still doesn't excuse the notion as to why Fury doesn't send SHIELD agents out to figure out what happened to one of his AVENGERS.

SHIELD in all the Earth based MCU films will always be the elephant in the room. Always now.

 

[J.Howlett]

I hate it when people ask questions to things they already know the answer to. The answer of course is that this is called Iron Man 3, not Avengers 2! There has to be some leeway to the MCU unless people want SHIELD to become deus ex machina.

I suppose you could make an argument for why SHIELD wasn't in the movie. What was SHIELD supposed to do about the attack on Tony's mansion? The entire sequence of the attack was what, ten minutes? Unless the Helicarrier added a hyperdrive, not sure what difference they could have made. For a stretch of the movie, Tony is cut off from the world. He could have made a call when he 'landed' but that's just not how Tony operates. He doesn't exactly trust SHIELD at all and his ego trumps all. The film did mention SHIELD looking into the Mandarin. How were they supposed to know about Killian and AIM being behind it? The US military clearly had no idea, why would SHIELD? The Air Force One sequence. Not sure what SHIELD could do about this either. It was a spur of the moment thing that only Tony could respond to. Sorry, Thor is the only flier that could have made a difference here. Maybe the Hulk but what is Bruce Banner supposed to do about an incident that wasn't even aware of?

I get what you're saying about it being Iron Man 3 but this isn't the comics. It can't be. When one of the Avengers is presumed dead, you don't think Fury would send out SHIELD agents to get him some answers?

Not only that, but the President of the United States of AMERICA is kidnapped. You'd think Captain AMERICA would have a problem with that. Wouldn't he?

 

[J.Howlett]

And I'm not saying the film didn't work on some level. There's some great, great stuff in it.

 

[Ironfan72]

I enjoyed the movie alot, RDJ delivered another awesome preformance, he owns the role of Tony Stark, the story was very enjoyable, again as a life long Iron man fan, i get alot of the references and names, yes the extremis story had been changed alot, but you get that with a comic film.
The supporting cast was excellent, Guy Pearce was IMO one of the better adds, i enjoyed him in the role, Paltrow was great once again as Pepper, her on screen chemistry with Downey make for one of the best on screen duos in movies, Cheadle did well as Rhodes, but would like to see more of him, maybe in a stand alone film, or at least more him and Tony together.
I plan on seeing this again and hope a IM4 will be a couple years done the road, I think Shane Black did a great job both directing and co-writing and added a much needed change in feel and tone, overall, 10/10 for me, the movie never slowed down and was a great film.

 

[ElMariachi]

I get what you're saying about it being Iron Man 3 but this isn't the comics. It can't be. When one of the Avengers is presumed dead, you don't think Fury would send out SHIELD agents to get him some answers?

Not only that, but the President of the United States of AMERICA is kidnapped. You'd think Captain AMERICA would have a problem with that. Wouldn't he?

Heres the thing though. I'm assuming Cap, Falcon, Hawkeye, Widow are taking part in whatever the plot is for Winter Soldier. I doubt SHIELD trusts Hulk for this sort of mission. Thor is gone. Coulson would have stopped Mandarin by himself but unfortunately, he is dead. Or....is he?

I think that Tony just got there before SHIELD. Makes sense. SHIELD wasn't that on top of things before the Avengers got on board. He pulled a Batman and detected that s*** before the authorities could. Give the man his props. t:

 

[J.Howlett]

Heres the thing though. I'm assuming Cap, Falcon, Hawkeye, Widow are taking part in whatever the plot is for Winter Soldier. I doubt SHIELD trusts Hulk for this sort of mission. Thor is gone. Coulson would have stopped Mandarin by himself but unfortunately, he is dead. Or....is he?

I think that Tony just got there before SHIELD. Makes sense. SHIELD wasn't that on top of things before the Avengers got on board. He pulled a Batman and detected that s*** before the authorities could. Give the man his props. t:

Tony got there before SHIELD for the entirety of the second and third acts of this film? A lot of time passes in those two acts.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Black and Pearce exercised the option to adapt Mandarin as they saw fit, since he was such a mess of a character in the comics. Their version of Mandarin was a way of fixing the character, in that they reshaped and used him in a way that worked for their screenplay.

I was hearing rumors of fans being upset about some kind of "twist"....I had to guess that was the Mandarin.

Didn't bother me a bit. Honestly I kinda thought the comic version was silly and was dreading seeing it fail on the screen as the audience giggled at a guy shooting at stuff with rings. Much better choice imo.

I give IM3 an 8/10. Really liked it. Smiled all the way through. RDJ is the man and Paltrow is my favorite leading lady in a super hero movie. It's not Avengers, but not many super hero movies are.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I do.

In IM2, SHIELD intervention didn't make that much sense.

In IM3, SHIELD not intervening didn't make much sense.

That doesn't necessarily mean that SHIELD had to be in IM3. It means they should have brought up a good explanation in the movie why SHIELD is currently unable to hunt the Mandarin.

Having SHIELd in IM2 was a little bit pointless.

In IM3, it is a good question why SHIELD remained inactive. It's a plot hole. So I'd say the guy's point is valid.

Seems like an odd complaint from comic fans. (I'm assuming everyone here reads comics)

Aren't we all used to the idea of other heroes mysteriously disappearing while we read titles devoted to just one character? What's the big deal?

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I think that Tony just got there before SHIELD. Makes sense. SHIELD wasn't that on top of things before the Avengers got on board. He pulled a Batman and detected that s*** before the authorities could. Give the man his props. t:

I was thinking while Tony was figuring all that stuff out...

"Stark is more like Batman than Nolan's Batman is!" The "world's greatest detective" part is basically gone from the Nolan Batman....he certainly is no Tony Stark!

That's another thing I like about IM3....seeing Stark succeed because he's Tony freaking Stark....he wasn't just a guy in a suit. We got to see why he's Iron Man and Rhody is not as good in the same suit.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

This. See, with the Avengers, we see Tony Stark extensively active, working with SHIELD. We get a good idea, in the Avengers, about the umbrella that SHIELD has when it deals with issues of the homeland and the world. So, when you get a plot that actually deals with a seriously homeland situation, i.e, the President of the United States, it does make some sense for SHIELD to be apart of this.

On top of this, you don't see a few SHIELD agents with, say, Hawkeye to locate on the Avengers who's presumed dead?

I admire Shane Black's complete focus on answering the question of who is Iron Man with this third picture. It completely makes sense to where we saw Tony at the beginning of his journey. I think he absolutely kills it with the action and spectacle in this film.

But, everything around the really great starts to fall all the way apart on a second viewing.

Spoiler

I mean, Tony's traumatized by the death of Pepper

, but it doesn't take more than 45 seconds before RDJ cracks a joke after the moment. Doesn't work.

I agree with you. It's definitely the scripts fault.

As it turns out, I knew who Tony Stark/Iron Man was when he heroically flew a nuke into another dimension and saved the world. No need to dedicate a whole movie to it when you can show it as effectivly as Joss Whedon did.

His acts in The Avengers was the completion of Starks arc IMO. He was clearly a hero who puts his life on the line, the armor is just a tool. When the chips were down he did what needed to be done.

 

[J.Howlett]

I agree with you. It's definitely the scripts fault.

As it turns out, I knew who Tony Stark/Iron Man was when he heroically flew a nuke into another dimension and saved the world. No need to dedicate a whole movie to it when you can show it as effectivly as Joss Whedon did.

His acts in The Avengers was the completion of Starks arc IMO. He was clearly a hero who puts his life on the line, the armor is just a tool. When the chips were down he did what needed to be done.

When you look back on his actions in the climax of that film, yeah, the ultimate answer to who Stark is is actually answered.

Never really thought of it that but you're right. It's right there.

For me, like the Incredible Hulk, I think I can skip this picture. Still, it was good fun to watch.

 

[J.Howlett]

I can't reiterate how ****ing incredible the Air Force One rescue was. Best action sequence in the MCU, for me, by far. Stellar execution by all parties.

 

[squeekness]

7 out of 10 for me -- I thought the last one was better. Ben Kingsley was great, loved him. It was also worth the wait through the ending credits for that scene on the end.