Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[Cinemaman]

Naite,

Nothing, I repeat, nothing is on the level of The Godfather. Again, I'm glad Superman and Singer are getting great praise.

But, nothing is The Godfather. It's impossible.

You are wrong, nothing is on the level of American Beauty, even Godfather

 

[bosef982]

Who knows? Different strokes for different folks. But a movie with so many astounding reviews from both non and comic book film geeks alike cannot disappoint.

I can believe Singer did it, but at the same time, I can't believe he did it this well.

 

[J.Howlett]

Hey, everyone had different tastes.

For me, The Godfather is the only perfect film in the long history of cinema...only one.

For me, all I wanted was for Superman Returns to be on the level or surpass Batman Begins, which I consider one of the top three films of this genre.

It sounds as if Singer has done that....and that's all I wanted.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

You are wrong, nothing is on the level of American Beauty, even Godfather

Sorry, you are wrong about that. American Beauty is great, but Godfather is the notch on the TOP of the yardstick that no movies can exceed.

LOL, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say AB is better than Godfather.

 

[theogt]

Did he just say American Beauty was better than Godfather? American Beauty isn't even in the top 10 greatest movies of all time.

 

[Cinemaman]

For me it is

 

[Nightwing1977]

Naite,

Nothing, I repeat, nothing is on the level of The Godfather. Again, I'm glad Superman and Singer are getting great praise.

But, nothing is The Godfather. It's impossible.

I agree. SR will be great without a doubt & might even be better than Batman Begins & other superheroes movies. But I doubt it will ever be better than "The Godfather". It could make more money, of course.

 

[Nivek]

The funny thing about people questioning Latino Reviews credibility is that they are actually surpassing sites like CHUD, AICN, and Dark Horizons when it comes to legit scoops on genre films over the several years. As a matter of fact, they pretty much presented LR's info as theres, with a marginal credit.

 

[J.Howlett]

Latino Reviews is a good site for film news. They seem to be on top alot of the times, especially when it comes to script reviews.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Naite,

Nothing, I repeat, nothing is on the level of The Godfather. Again, I'm glad Superman and Singer are getting great praise.

But, nothing is The Godfather. It's impossible.

Oh, but The Godfather has been beaten....

...by The Godfather Part 2.

 

[Cinemaman]

I am sureprised that Matt cant understand that SR has also positive sides even after so positive reviews from Latino Review and Hollywood Elsewhere.

 

[ultimatefan]

What´s great is the first reviews aren´t just positive, they´re enthusiastic! The first reviews of XM TLS were positive too, but much more cautiously so.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Not too shocking, considering how much the critics overated X2.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Not too shocking, considering how much the critics overated X2.

Similiarly to how people overrate the Spiderman movies?

 

[ultimatefan]

...no, it´s not the tone of red, but now that i think of it.....

It´s the all "sequel", "vague story".
It´s the all using the basis of a pre-crisis franchise to make a new Superman movie.
It´s using a franchise with 20 years (more or less) as template, and not restart the damn thing (like it should).
It´s the all mad cientist/thief Lex Luthor
It´s the all creating a new continent crap
It´s......a bunch of things....

And i´m not even going to the suit (that´s bitsy symbol on his chest and the small symbol on his belt, why not a symbol in the boots, while you´re at it).
Both the suit and the kid are the least of my problems...

But, one thing i can say, i do believe that is going to be a great movie...for what it is.

Well, for me the LAST THING that would work for Superman is a restart. To me Donner did a stellar job with the origin, and I don´t think there´s anything post-crisis that would justify ignoring or replacing his version. And Lex isn´t just a mad scientist, that I know the tycoon Lex thing is there, too.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Similiarly to how people overrate the Spiderman movies?

No, the Spider-Man movies are as good as it gets...next to Blade 2.

 

[Jakomus]

Similiarly to how people overrate the Spiderman movies?

Oh, well done. You have lowered yourself to the level of a child by insulting something another person likes because he is doubtful about a review.

And the Spider-Man movies ARE overrated. But I'm not going to point that out just because ISEESPIDEY was -sob- MEAN!

 

[Karea07]

this review got me more hyped

 

[Stringer]

I dont know it almost seems too positive. They make it seem like its a perfect movie and the review doesnt go into too much detail about Rouths performance as Superman it just says he's a good Clark Kent. Godfather is the best movie of all time

 

[DorkyFresh]

Oh, well done. You have lowered yourself to the level of a child by insulting something another person likes because he is doubtful about a review.

how is his opinion that critics overrated Spider-Man 'insulting'? I SEE SPIDEY said critics overrated X2 is that insulting? i don't think you have to right to say he lowered himself to the level of a child considering I SEE SPIDEY said almost the exact same thing except about X2 instead of Spider-Man.

seriously...i don't get some of the way you guys think...

 

[Jakomus]

I dont know it almost seems too positive. They make it seem like its a perfect movie and the review doesnt go into too much detail about Rouths performance as Superman it just says he's a good Clark Kent. Godfather is the best movie of all time

Yet if a bad review went into every little detail about the movie with an indepth analysis, it would be labelled as 'shoddy journalism' or 'the reviewer not knowing what he/she is talking about'.

Don't expect any intelligence out of review threads.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

how is his opinion that critics overrated Spider-Man 'insulting someone'? I SEE SPIDEY said critics overrated X2 is that insulting anyone?



seriously...i don't get some of the way you guys think...

I didn't think that his response was childish or insulting either.

 

[superkong 500]

Sponge Man Was There When SUPERMAN Returned!!

Caution some spoilers below


Merrick here…


Well, here we go…

I’ve been in touch with a few folks who saw SUPERMAN RETURNS at a recent screening; all of them are reliable/established sources with good Geek sense & tastes.

I’ll go ahead and say it, as I know someone else will do so in Talkback: “Exactly what does a Geek taste like?”

The people I’ve (personally) heard from thus far were remarkably consistent in their assessment of this movie: SUPERMAN RETURNS is good, even very good, but not "great".

This being said, there are other reviews out there…HERE and HERE (about 1/2 way down), for example, that say SR is better-than-good.

Also, you can read the Boston Herald’s write-up (calling the film “smart" and “magisterial&#8221 HERE, or the Hollywood Elsewhere mention (“There's an airborne action sequence in particular that delivered, for me, the greatest sensory thrill I've ever experienced from a mainstream movie in my life&#8221 HERE.

With all of this in mind, here’s Sponge Man’s review for AICN, which pretty-much encapsulates what I’ve been hearing so far…




MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD



Last night I saw Superman Returns (final print, with the same opening credits as the original and the same last shot, only with Brandon Routh looking at the audience at the end). First of all, let me just give you my opinion about some comic book adaptations, so your readers can have an idea of my taste.
LOVE: Superman I (and Richard Donner's scenes in Superman II), X Men 2, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2 HATE: X Men 3, Daredevil, all Batman movies (but BB).
Second of all, no spoilers ahead (although there's a big big big plot twist..).
And third, I'm not going to get into the story because I don't have time and I think people should just see the movie as "fresh" as possible.
So, with all that said, here are my three cents on SR:
Remember that scene in Superman where Christopher Reeve had that chain with kryptonite around his neck and he couldn't get rid of it? Well, Bryan Singer has a chain with Superman The Movie attached around his neck and he can't liberate himself from it. I'm not saying the movie is a remake of Richard Donner's (although it goes beyond an homage). But Singer's respect for the original is a very heavy weight for it.
SR never reaches the emotional levels of Donner's film, nor its very underrated sense of humor.
The pacing is a bit off.
Kevin Spacey's is underused.
The Superman/Lois Lane night flight is unnecessary.
And its best moments are the ones that remind us of the first movie.
BUT... it's a very good action-romance-adventure-soap opera movie, that should satisfy almost all kind of audiences (but MTV-influenced teenagers... it's too slow for them), and it ends up being very emotional (the last 20 minutes, pure drama, are absolutely brilliant).
Not that many action scenes (the plane-shuttle rescue is just incredible): but I think that's good, since I can't stand useless directors (Ratner, Cohen and company) that add senseless noisy action with no purpose whatsoever.
And the actors are quite good: Brandon Routh is better as Superman than as Clark Kent (he tries too hard being Christopher Reeve instead of Clark Kent). Kate Bosworth is excellent as Lane (she doesn't try to imitate Margot Kidder at all), Parker Posey seems bored to death (I missed terribly Valerie Perrine and Ned Betaty as Luthor's sidekicks), and Spacey needed more screen time and a final face off with Superman... that never happens.
And what to say about John Williams' music? SR would nothing without it.
By the way, the movie is dedicated to Christopher and Dana Reeve.
So, very good, but not brilliant.

 

[DorkyFresh]

another non-bad review!

....have there been ANY comments saying SR just plain sux?

 

[Jakomus]

how is his opinion that critics overrated Spider-Man 'insulting'? I SEE SPIDEY said critics overrated X2 is that insulting?

It was an obvious attempt to get I SEE SPIDEY angry. I agree, saying something is overrated is not insulting, but saying it just to annoy someone?

seriously...i don't get some of the way you guys think...

'You guys'? Do you think I belong to a group or something?