Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[Showtime]

Well it seemed to me that you were impling that I hated Marsden and the role. That is not that the case at all.

Wasn't my intention to imply anything, I was sneaking my opinion in there.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well I am just clarifying that I am not one of these guys that hates everything about the movie. There I things that I really liked but I hated more than I liked.

 

[Showtime]

Well I am just clarifying that I am not one of these guys that hates everything about the movie. There I things that I really liked but I hated more than I liked.

I know you're not just here to rip the movie to shreds or praise the movie endlessly. I've been watching.

I've been reading your posts and your pretty damn objective compared to most other posters on the positive and negative side.

 

[skruloos]

Okayyyy so just because Marsden's character is given a bigger part it is okay to copycat another character from another comic book?? If you love the movie thats fine but quit defending every ****ing thing.

Well, considering that their characterizations are completely different, then yes I think it's ok. They function as different types of foils to the protagonist and they are handled completely differently. Yes, superficially, they are similar but that's it. Superficial. After that, they are completely different characters that play completely different roles in their respective stories.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well, considering that their characterizations are completely different, then yes I think it's ok. They function as different types of foils to the protagonist and they are handled completely differently. Yes, superficially, they are similar but that's it. Superficial. After that, they are completely different characters that play completely different roles in their respective stories.

Good to see you posting Skru
I agree,as i said earlier beyond the base description of what the character is (Other man)the roles are not alike,Richard is layered and has multiple story purposes where as John is simply the tool for the old fashioned set up of a love triangle of sorts

 

[Retroman]

Must be the longest review ever written.

 

[DadOfSuperman]

8/10.

There was a lot of let downs in this movie.

From what we know of Superman, he is very social to the general public. In this one, he hardly speaks to anyone. In the original Superman's, he talks to most people - even the little girl who's cat is in the tree - So that takes a star from it's rating.

Also, it seemed very boring and modest at times. I can't really pick out any certain parts, but parts in general just seemed...BORING!

Overall tho, I enjoyed it. I liked the flying scenes with Lois, and I also liked the special effects.

 

[supermanager]

after watching it for the 4th time,

i give it 9 out of 10,

the imagery is stunning,

and i like the score as well,

this movie gets better with every viewing

 

[nogster]

after watching it for the 4th time,

i give it 9 out of 10,

the imagery is stunning,

and i like the score as well,

this movie gets better with every viewing

you must be very easily pleased.
i have no problems with the score and imagery. but the story around it was so bad. i cant understand how people can overlook this.
lets see.
we get a superman that stalks the woman he loves when she is in a happy relationship with a loving and caring man.
he has an illegitimate child [bastard son]and the mother wouldnt remember ever sleeping with him.
kryptonite, supermans ONLY achilles heel has little effect on him in this film if he sunbakes, regardless of the size or whether he has a shard INSIDE HIM.
and the rest of the world will want to buy ugly alien land from the biggest terrorist ever who attempted to destroy half of the usa.
mmmmm.

 

[bweurk]

there's a french expression well suited to this movie
"donner de la confiture à des cochons"
(giving marmelade to pigs)
many of you didn't deserve such a good movie, you're not able to enjoy what is good, you rather have a mindless stupid action packed movie than a powerfull masterpiece with heart where characters are not stereotyped.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

I saw it a second time, and I want to kill Bryan Singer.

This is how much I love Superman:

Even after seeing the disgusting skid mark that is the suit Routh is wearing, I still went to see it. I ignored it throughout the whole movie because I wanted so badly to like it. I dealt with it.

The suit is crap. I don't care what Singer says. Superman NEVER looked like that. Ever. Never has there been an S on the belt. The boots looked terrible. They were unbelievably clumsy looking and had these soles like Superman was going mountain climbing. It's overkill and unnecessary. The colors were disgustingly, unforgivably muted. Find me a photo of any Superman incarnation where the reds look like that. Not even the Fleischer cartoons had the reds that dark.

I don't mind the S on the cape being missing so much. It's not that big of a deal, but the reason for it not being there is disgusting. Highly trained, highly paid CGI guys working on a $200 million plus movie-and not just any movie, a friggin SUPERMAN movie, one of WB's golden geese-couldn't handle it? They couldn't make it work? It would "just look like some yellow thing?" That's just stupid. We'd all know what it was even if it wasn't clear. They couldn't get a 3-D symbol on the cape I guess and Singer wouldn't put the regular logo anywhere near this movie. Even still, no excuse. Then putting the S on the belt instead was pathetic.

The t-shirt collar thing didn't work either. It made Routh look smaller because the enormous cape he was wearing all ended in this very tight, bicycle-shirt type collar that seemed really constricted and just looked bad. Having the collar the way it's supposed to be-more open-would broaden Routh's shoulders and make him look bigger, the cape would drape over his shoulders the way it's supposed to and give him a more regal look. The way it is now is just awkward.

All this-and I still had faith.

Then I see the movie at the very first advanced screening. The opening credits almost made me cry. Hearing that music and seeing those flying letters hit me right in the chest. It was beautiful. I couldn't keep the 8 year-old's smirk off my face.

I love Routh. I think he's great. Not even because he resembles Christopher Reeve (I don't even really think he does all that much...people see what they want I suppose) but because I think he did a good job despite the ******** of a suit he was wearing. He doesn't compare to Reeve by light years but I don't think anyone expected him to. He did a good job, good enough.

Kevin Spacey was phenominal as Luthor. Bosworth as Lois Lane was good, although I never cared much about Lois Lane altogether.

The plot was good. Luthor's plan was stupid but he's had worse ones. Superman's sacrifice and lifting that whole thing into space was awesome. It showed his power like never before and he must have literally been dying while he did it. Something that heavy and with kryptonite in it on top of it. Awesome. I loved that. I loved the flying up to the sunlight and giving it all he's got.

Then, there's the friggin kid. I didn't mind him at first. I even laughed when Superman was on TV and he looked at Clark and started wheezing. He was cute. Then Luthor asked the question...and I started fidgeting.

Then he threw the piano, and I wanted to walk out. Doesn't anybody else see this as horribly wrong? Superman has a son? It's disgusting. Not only does he have a kid, but Luthor knows about it. Now Superman has a kid to worry about whenever something happens. It stinks and I don't like it.

The whole time I was muttering, "that better not be his kid" to myself. I was in denial the whole time, reading reviews and people eluding to it because I woudn't in a million years dream that Singer would have the balls to do that. I love Superman so much that I stayed even after that. Then for the rest of the movie I was muttering, "he better die." to myself. It never happened. I wanted to die.

I couldn't appreciate the rest of the movie as much as I could have because the whole time I felt that horrible knot in my stomach. I hated it. It was a nightmare. Maybe I'm alone on this. I couldn't appreciate the homage to the Superman movie endings. I couldn't appreciate the scene with the sun and lifting the island as much as I would have if that kid didn't exist.

I love Superman so much that I couldn't stop thinking about it. I had dreams where I was just having nightmares and the movie turned out fantastic. I had dreams of meeting and pleading with Bryan Singer to fix the suit and the whole kid situation. It consumed my thoughts for days.

I love Superman so much that I saw it again, because I really wanted to like this movie. I can't express how much I wanted to like this movie.

I saw it again, and I loved every minute of it before and after the kid thing. But all of it is tainted with that moment. It ruined the movie for me. Destroyed. Everything good about it is killed by the fact that Superman has a kid. This isn't even considering the biological possibility of it even happening, just the fact that it affects Superman and Superman's mythos directly.

The things Singer did right only make what he screwed up even worse. He knew to keep the music, he knew to honor the first film, he knew how to cast the characters, but somehow the suit and the fact that giving Superman a kid (which is something so monumental that he has no authority to do it) slipped past the radar of "I'm doing everything right."

I bought the poster before I saw the movie because I was so sure I'd love it despite what I already didn't like. Now I have it still rolled up in my room and I don't know what to do with it. It's a great looking poster, but it's like having a picture of the guy who raped your sister on your wall because he's good looking (if you're a girl, or gay).

Ultimately, the movie disappointed me. It disheartened me. It destroyed me.

That's how much I love Superman.

Sorry this was so long.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well guys its been fun talking badly about SR. Now I have to move on to Heath Ledger as Joker. Bye.

 

[nogster]

Well guys its been fun talking badly about SR. Now I have to move on to Heath Ledger as Joker. Bye.

lol. mmm yes that is a surprising casting choice. is this definate.

 

[Mentok]

Not yet, but Latino Review have a very good track record.

 

[gkokujin]

welp.

i finally saw it.

and it was a superman movie.


the end.



ps i hope they kill the kid in the next one.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

welp.

i finally saw it.

and it was a superman movie.


the end.



ps i hope they kill the kid in the next one.

They should have killed him in the first one. He should never have been there in the first place.

 

[Jakomus]

I gave it a 10 out of 10, because I have good taste.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

I gave it a 10 out of 10, because I have good taste.

Am I taking crazy pills? The super son doesn't bother you at all?

 

[kal-el2006]

Am I taking crazy pills? The super son doesn't bother you at all?

what did his son do to bother you?..he was just a kid..didnt have alot of screentime..so i ask..what did he do to bother you?..just a question

 

[Jakomus]

Am I taking crazy pills? The super son doesn't bother you at all?

Nah, because to me, the story and characterisation of a film are more important than what "happened in the comics".

And if we're going to rate films by faithfulness to their adaptions, then Jaws and Jurassic Park are terrible movies.

 

[LadyVader]

what did his son do to bother you?..he was just a kid..didnt have alot of screentime..so i ask..what did he do to bother you?..just a question

"It's the principle of the thing."

 

[ToddIsDead]

Am I taking crazy pills? The super son doesn't bother you at all?

I know it didn't bother me. The suit was great too. I gave SR a 9.5/10; just about equal to Batman Begins.

 

[Valorman]

loved the movie, love the suit, maybe the colar could be lowered slightly, but the complaints about the darker red or the smaller sheild seem like whiny nitpicks to me. the colours were fine, leave it be.

believe it or not, im fine with the kid. not because im "not a true superman fan" as people have told me, ive been a supes fan for 7 years now, not long, but for my age its fine.

i like the introduction of the kid because they HANDELED it with such grace. it was realistic, superman didint become a homewrecker nor did richard lose his son. they handeld it exactly how i believe the situation should be handeled, and watching where they go from here should be very interesting.

the movie was beautiful in my eyes, i only wish people wouldint get so hung up on petty things.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

what did his son do to bother you?..he was just a kid..didnt have alot of screentime..so i ask..what did he do to bother you?..just a question

The kid was great in the movie, that's not what I was asking.

The fact that the kid's character exists bothers me. It's not even that it happened in the comics. Even if they did it in the comics I'd be upset. It screws with the entire dynamic-Superman has a kid to worry about all the time now. It's ridiculous and it's friggin upsetting.

This is my final feeling on the suit: I think it looked like complete crap and every change done to it was 100% unnecessary.
Anybody who didn't mind how it looked wouldn't have minded if it looked the way it's supposed to (RED, the right collar, etc), so why not make everyone happy? If you would have minded the suit looking just like the comics suit, then you wouldn't be a true Superman fan.

 

[Van Petrol]

Finally got to see SR today, and I loved it...

I agree that it could have been better to suit the expectations some had for this, but I'm just glad to see Supes back on the Big Screen and am looking forward to the coming sequels if they are permitted. And I hope they are.

I didn't really have any gripes with anything about the film. I felt that all aspects incorporated in this film served their purposes and don't deserve any of the criticisms they have been getting.

The movie itself was absolutely beautiful to look at, and I loved all the nods they made to various things from Superman's history as well as to other things (i.e.The Dark Knight).
And Brandon Routh is the NEW Superman, I really adored his performance and thought he did it justice. I'm looking forward to seeing him as Supes again.

Overall I think the movie is Super and gets a solid 9 from me. I know it could have been better, but this is the first of hopefully the new series.
There is always room for improvement, and I'm sure it will only get better.

Superman has indeed Returned!!!...



BTW, I can see now why some people have fallen in love with Kate Bosworth...