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Slipping_Halo said:
The fact that the kid's character exists bothers me. It's not even that it happened in the comics. Even if they did it in the comics I'd be upset. It screws with the entire dynamic-Superman has a kid to worry about all the time now. It's ridiculous and it's friggin upsetting.

The kid was put in so the Superman movie franchise would, not only appeal to a whole new audience, but enable the Superman movie franchise to continue past Clark Kent as Superman.

To me it just seems like a cheap sellout gimmick so they can make more money.
Its working, the younger fans love the idea. And, yes, I consider a fan of Superman for 7 years a younger fan :D

But we cant really judge how this will affect Superman in the future because we dont know anything about SR sequels.

As for the costume(sorry but)bright colors would not work. Audiences have changed too much.
What would you prefer... yellow spandex? :D

They have changed for the better in that they expect a more mature dialogue, better acting and better visuals as in cinematography and realized story boards.
They have changed for the worse in that they expect a fight scene every four seconds with tons of explosions that blow womens tops off and skirts up. :P
 
7Hells said:
The kid was put in so the Superman movie franchise would, not only appeal to a whole new audience, but enable the Superman movie franchise to continue past Clark Kent as Superman.

To me it just seems like a cheap sellout gimmick so they can make more money.
Its working, the younger fans love the idea. And, yes, I consider a fan of Superman for 7 years a younger fan :D
Younger fan? I've been a fan of the character for a little over 25 years and I love the kid.

Also, if you really think it was a way to sell out, then I think you'd be wrong. The box office hasn't been lighting the film world on fire or anything.
 
skruloos said:
Younger fan? I've been a fan of the character for a little over 25 years and I love the kid.

Also, if you really think it was a way to sell out, then I think you'd be wrong. The box office hasn't been lighting the film world on fire or anything.
The big money in franchising is about products now not movies. Movies are turning into huge commercials so fast I cant really tell the difference with some of them.

I liked the idea of the kid but I dont like it showing up in SR.
I like the idea because I think Superman should be everlasting. He is the most iconic and romantic figure that specializes in bringing people (movie goers and old comic fans) hope.

Hope is important in society, without it we will destroy ourselves and each other.
Just the idea of Superman is important to many people in difficult times when the hope in our collective subconscious begins to ebb.
So anything that will predicate the romantic hope of superman to spread through future generations I can agree with.

Besides all that I cant wait to see how his powers develop! I think that will give all of us old fans those big screen origin scenes we were all craving but felt let down on.
 
The big money in franchising is about products now not movies. Movies are turning into huge commercials so fast I cant really tell the difference with some of them.

I wonder how much money the burrito suppliers of America put into this movie. :D
 
I knew Singer wouldnt disappoint. Theres not much to complain about in that film. Sure comic fanatics will find something but I found the film quite an epic. It had characters, it had action, it had epic scope, and the music was amazing. I noticed it was a pinch more serious than the previous and that made it even more favorable to me, liking the more serious approach the most.

Now keep luthor on that island and his characters finished well. Its way overdue time for new villains.
 
LadyVader said:
I wonder how much money the burrito suppliers of America put into this movie. :D
lol I cant imagine much! That close-up shot of Clark with burrito hanging out the side of his mouth didnt exactly make me feel like going to Taco Bell anytime soon :p
Was classic Clark funny though :D
 
XCharlieX said:
Now keep luthor on that island and his characters finished well. Its way overdue time for new villains.
I dont know about that...Luther will always be the ultimate Superman archenemy. And Parker Posey did such an incredible job she and Spacey have to be in more than just SR :D
Maybe they can let Luther rest for the next one but he has to make a final return in the last of these.
 
7Hells said:
I dont know about that...Luther will always be the ultimate Superman archenemy. And Parker Posey did such an incredible job she and Spacey have to be in more than just SR :D

Lol i expected someone to disagree.... imo luthor has been used so many times i dont think people know that there are other villains... cartoon series anyone? (Darkseid, Brainiac).... Doomsday?

I just feel hes this huge cosmic god and hes being heckled by some dude in a suit forever... gets lame imo if overused...mind over muscle yeah yeah but... supermans no dummy ;).
 
XCharlieX said:
Lol i expected someone to disagree.... imo luthor has been used so many times i dont think people know that there are other villains... cartoon series anyone? (Darkseid, Brainiac).... Doomsday?
Well I didnt really consider SR to be a comic book Superman movie. Its a movie Superman movie. Which is fine, a bit disappointing for us comic fans but that didnt make it a horrible movie for me.
I still saw it 3 times...so far ;)

That said, I doubt they are going to get rid of Lex anytime soon. Especially considering the younger fans base their knowledge of Superman on Smallville (unfortunately).
 
7Hells said:
Well I didnt really consider SR to be a comic book Superman movie. Its a movie Superman movie.

Yep thats how i see it too but I think this franchise in particular would benefit greatly from following the comics more carefully when it comes to plots etc because its sequels all begin to repeat itself after a certain point it seems..badly.

7Hells said:
That said, I doubt they are going to get rid of Lex anytime soon.

Eh.... i fear this. That could ruin it imo. The universe is their playground imo ...if they ever used it...
 
XCharlieX said:
Yep thats how i see it too but I think this franchise in particular would benefit greatly from following the comics more carefully when it comes to plots etc because its sequels all begin to repeat itself after a certain point it seems..badly.
Oh I totally agree, I think they need to tred some fine water in the next one or they are going to lose the respect of comic book fans completely.

XCharlieX said:
Eh.... i fear this. That could ruin it imo. The universe is their playground imo ...if they ever used it...
I agree with you on this as well. But I think its important for them to first establish the Superman us older fans loved so much before they cut Lex out completely. To me SR was basically just introducing the idea of Superman existing in the current era. I think that was the most important thing SR needed to do and I think they did it well.
 
7Hells said:
I think its important for them to first establish the Superman us older fans loved so much before they cut Lex out completely. To me SR was basically just introducing the idea of Superman existing in the current era. I think that was the most important thing SR needed to do and I think they did it well.

Yep i understood it that way also. I enjoyed how it lured everyone back to the originals by making a continuity with them while updating the universe at the same time. SR was basically a proof that supermans image is alive and well and boy did they prove it. I noticed they did use the slightly updated engine that Spiderman had created which was to make it slightly more serious to fit with todays audience. I like both but i did notice Spiderman ribbing superman for a while lol.

"youre not superman you know"
 
I'm going to post something I posted in the complaints thread (which would have gone over better here) since its also relative to our conversation

Superman has been gone so long, like others have stated, the people arent familiar with him anymore. They look at him as more of a god or alien now rather than how they used to be portrayed when sighting him as a friend.

It just makes sense for his character that he wouldnt show up in full glory like we are used to seeing him. Thats why I can understand Singers color choice for example.

He isnt the Superman we remember him to be in the script yet and Singer did a good job of portraying that while still making him seem Super for the newer fans.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I like what Singer did.
He is still Super, the people just dont see him as a man yet.
And (as the audience) we are the people (insert paragraph 1 here as well) :D

The whole movie was kind of a big metaphor for old fans renewing their love and familiarity of Superman.
 
OK, I finally got to see it today. As a sequal to the origional movies it's great. Funny thing you really have to have seen the first 2 to truly understand everything going on.

Things that suprised me:
How much Routh reminded me of Reed. It was almost creepy.
Spacey's Take on Luthor. He was some where in between the comics and the Hackmen vesrion (I still think the smallville rosenbaum is the best)
How much I really enjoyed this movie.

Things I still have questions on or are bugging me:
Perry white did mention "Why the new suit". As if to make a definete statement that yes the suit is different. Why no explination? And why no explination of the black suit in the beginning? I know it's like the regeneration suit from the comics, but still explain it to those that aren't comic book fans.

I still don't buy that superman would leave for 5 years to see his dead home world. And the thing that also bugged me about that is I thought the premisis was He returned to a world that learned to get along with out him. And he didn't fit in anymore. But they pretty much rewelcomed him with open arms with one exception, Lois.

Finally Ok, why would Lois for a split second think that the kid is Supes? Her memory was wiped in 2, so she doesn't remeber doing it with him. So wouldn't she be like, "Maybe he isn't so super? Was he that forgetable?"

But over all it was a great movie.
 
Sorry for my VERY late review - Movie was released here last week, plus had cash problems, long story, don´t ask...

Superman Returns is just the kind thing that sometimes makes me feel like an alien in the fanboy world. Never, in my five years at SHH boards, I have seen a superhero movie that I felt was so unfairly criticized and nitpicked, and I followed the “organics sucks” thing in the Spider-Man board… I read so much about this that I didn´t feel at all when I saw the movie, sometimes I wondered if we all saw the same thing. Maybe it´s my perspective. I thought a restart a la Batman Begins was a terrible idea, I was more than pleased with Donner´s telling of it and the last thing I wanted to see was the kagillionth retelling of the origin. I don´t think a good Superman story has to be a direct version of any particular comics storyline, just a good Superman story, even though tributes and recognizable ideas are nice. I actually put together some of the comments I been reading over a month that made me go “what the hell are they talking about”.

“It´s a remake of the Donner movie” – Very rarely, if ever, this movie felt to me like a mere imitation of Donner´s Superman. Despite the many common plot and visual elements, it´s a new story with its own twists and turns. And it gets a lot of the things that were great about his take, like the epic imagery and romanticism. And it takes from other sources too, the Fleischer cartoons – the many low angles, nice use of shadows, etc., the George Reeves show – Supes walking firmly but calmly towards the thug with the machine gun, even the Animated Series – the plane rescue and Superman taking more hits, suffering more.

“It´s boring and lacks action” – If by action you mean merely fights, yeah, it lacks in that department, but if the idea is that it lacks excitement, I totally disagree. I´d say the pace is actually faster than that of Batman Begins, and it has plenty of humor, a visually beautiful romance moment – that evokes the Supes flying with Lois moment from STM, I know, but it adds to it visually with their “dance in the sky” – and after Luthor´s plan sets in motion, the movie gains a lot in energy and barely stops till it´s over. Oh, for those who said “all he does is lift stuff”, hardly, we see Supes´s invulnerability in ways we haven´t before – the bullet to the eye shot is priceless and got a great reaction from audience -, he uses his super breath to stop fires, his heat vision to destroy pieces of glass falling on people, his super vision in ways we didn´t see before – checking Lois´ organs to see if she´s all right. My audience rarely seemed bored with the movie.

“This has nothing to do with the comics” – This is a perfectly recognizable, archetypical Superman. He´s the last survivor of Krypton, he was raised by the Kents, he has all his classic powers and vulnerability, he´s the mild-mannered, bumbling Clark at the Planet, Lois is the nosy and feisty reporter, there´s Perry, there´s Jimmy, all the essential lore is there. The suit is recognizable as well and it fits well with the cinematography of the movie, I don´t remember anybody at the theater saying “that doesn´t look like Superman”, and it was a very vocal audience, in a couple cases annoyingly so – your typical bratty kids who laugh and make fun of everything and think they´re really cool without realizing they´re annoying the hell out of the other people, but even those got quiet and followed the movie after a while...

Now let´s really get our hands dirty – the “Superman leaves Earth/has a son out of wedlock” thing… The story reflects on the whole notion that Superman doesn´t fit our times anymore. As the Lois article points out, the question is “does the world still need Superman?” Does his connection with his planet makes him more of an alien than a human? What we learn is deep down, Superman´s fragility, moreso than kryptonite, is his incomplete humanity, the “loneliness at the top”. He looked for the answer at the wrong place, cuz it was here all the time. His humanity is now complete as he bred life in this world instead of worrying about a dead one, and in his love for Lois and his son and for the world, it has become his greatest strength, the one that impulses him to win over kryptonite and lift a wasteland made of his dead home planet out to space. The final scene between him and his son was beautiful, a wrap-up of his own connection with Jor-El, passing the legacy, keeping the example for the future generation. If this is not the stuff of a great Superman story, I´ll throw away or forget everything I own or know of the character. And no, I didn´t feel like he was more worried about getting Lois back than saving the world, there was a nice balance, IMO, between the drama and romance and his traditional heroic acts. The FX and visuals were incredible, this movie constantly feels huge in its scope, as it should be.


I´ll concede, however, to some of the criticisms I read. At times, yes, it´s somewhat gloomier than a Superman movie should be, but Supes didn´t come up as a mopey whiner to me. It´s just that the story lands itself that way, but at the end of the day, it´s a hopeful one. In Lex´s case, I thought it went a little too much for the Donner approach. This Lex was scarier and more menacing, yeah, but sometimes he still came off a bit campy for my tastes, yet I think in the darker scenes Spacey did a great job. And I´d have preferred a more physical threat than yet another frikking land takeover scheme. But don´t tell me it´s more absurd than the villainous plans of Magneto, Doc Ock, Ra´s, etc. I´m kinda tired to see girly girls play roles of mature professional women – coughJessica Albacough… Kate is 23 and she looks 18… if I have to guess the idea is to appeal to the teenage audience, why come up with a story where she´s a mom and Supes is an old boyfriend? Doesn´t sound like The OC to me…I´ll also agree that Supes is a bit too quiet, even though I love his “everyday I hear people crying for one” line and his final Jor-El speech to Jason.

As for Routh, I think he lacked a bit of Reeve´s screen presence, but overall I thought he worked well, especially as Clark, in a less bumbling version. Sam Huntington was very funny as Jimmy.

But maybe the scene I felt the most was the one where Richard, Lois and Jason were drowning and they´re saved… I think that moment defines Superman in so many ways… The hope of a miracle, of being rescued from an impossible danger, hope springing when it seems completely lost. To me it made more of a mark than the plane rescue or even the lift of the island…

I may not be able to put SR up there with my beloved Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins – it´s my fanboy bias, I´m too much of a Spidey/Bats fan. But SR to me is a crafty, entertaining, and heartfelt superhero movie. I can accept many criticisms to it, except that Singer didn´t put genuine love and dedication to making the best Superman movie he could. Whatever bias or take you have against SR, this a Superman fan´s movie. I believe it as I believe a man can fly.
 
ultimatefan said:
Sorry for my VERY late review - Movie was released here last week, plus had cash problems, long story, don´t ask...

Superman Returns is just the kind thing that sometimes makes me feel like na alien in the fanboy world. Never, in my five years at SHH boards, I have seen a superhero movie that I felt was so unfairly criticized and nitpicked, and I followed the “organics sucks” thing in the Spider-Man board… I read so much about this that I didn´t feel at all when I saw the movie, sometimes I wondered if we all saw the same thing. Maybe it´s my perspective. I thought a restart a la Batman Begins was a terrible idea, I was more than pleased with Donner´s telling of it and the last thing I wanted to see was the kagillionth retelling of the origin. I don´t think a good Superman story has to be a direct version of any particular comics storyline, just a good Superman story, even though tributes and recognizable ideas are nice. I actually put together some of the comments I been reading over a month that made me go “what the hell are they talking about”.

“It´s a remake of the Donner movie” – Very rarely, if ever, this movie felt to me like a mere imitation of Donner´s Superman. Despite the many common plot and visual elements, it´s a new story with its own twists and turns. And it gets a lot of the things that were great about his take, like the epic imagery and romanticism. And it takes from other sources too, the Fleischer cartoons – the many low angles, nice use of shadows, etc., the George Reeves show – Supes walking firmly but calmly towards the thug with the machine gun, even the Animated Series – the plane rescue and Superman taking more hits, suffering more.

“It´s boring and lacks action” – If by action you mean merely fights, yeah, it lacks in that department, but if the idea is that it lacks excitement, I totally disagree. I´d say the pace is actually faster than that of Batman Begins, and it has plenty of humor, a visually beautiful romance moment – that evokes the Supes flying with Lois moment from STM, I know, but it adds to it visually with their “dance in the sky” – and after Luthor´s plan sets in motion, the movie gains a lot in energy and barely stops till it´s over. Oh, for those who said “all he does is lift stuff”, hardly, we see Supes´s vulnerability in ways we haven´t before – the bullet to the eye shot is priceless and got a great reaction from audience -, he uses his super breath to stop fires, his heat vision to destroy pieces of glass falling on people, his super vision in ways we didn´t see before – checking Lois´ organs to see if she´s all right. My audience rarely seemed bored with the movie.

“This has nothing to do with the comics” – This is a perfectly recognizable, archetypical Superman. He´s the last survivor of Krypton, he was raised by the Kents, he has all his classic powers and vulnerability, he´s the mild-mannered, bumbling Clark at the Planet, Lois is the noisy and feisty reporter, there´s Perry, there´s Jimmy, all the essential lore is there. The suit is recognizable as well and it fits well with the cinematography of the movie, I don´t remember anybody at the theater saying “that doesn´t look like Superman”, and it was a very vocal audience, in a couple cases annoyingly so – your typical bratty kids who laugh and make fun of everything and think they´re really cool without realizing they´re annoying the hell out of the other people, but even those got quiet and followed the movie after a while...

Now let´s really get our hands dirty – the “Superman leaves Earth/has a son out of wedlock” thing… The story reflects on the whole notion that Superman doesn´t fit our times anymore. As the Lois article points out, the question is “does the world still need Superman?” Does his connection with his planet makes him more of an alien than a human? What we learn is deep down, Superman´s fragility, moreso than kryptonite, is his incomplete humanity, the “loneliness at the top”. He looked for the answer at the wrong place, cuz it was here all the time. His humanity is now complete as he bred life in this world instead of worrying about a dead one, and in his love for Lois and his son and for the world, it has become his greatest strength, the one that impulses him to win over kryptonite and lift a wasteland made of his dead home planet out to space. The final scene between him and his son was beautiful, a wrap-up of his own connection with Jor-El, passing the legacy, keeping the example for the future generation. If this is not the stuff of a great Superman story, I´ll throw away or forget everything I owe or know of the character. And no, I didn´t feel like he was more worried about getting Lois back than saving the world, there was a nice balance, IMO, between the drama and romance and his traditional heroic acts. The FX and visuals were incredible, this movie constantly feels huge in its scope, as it should be.


I´ll concede, however, to some of the criticisms I read. At times, yes, it´s somewhat gloomier than a Superman movie should be, but Supes didn´t come up as a mopey whiner to me. It´s just that the story lands itself that way, but at the end of the day, it´s a hopeful one. In Lex´s case, I thought it went a little too much for the Donner approach. This Lex was scarier and more menacing, yeah, but sometimes he still came off a bit campy for my tastes, yet I think in the darker scenes Spacey did a great job. And I´d have preferred a more physical threat than yet another frikking land takeover scheme. But don´t tell me it´s more absurd than the villainous plans of Magneto, Doc Ock, Ra´s, etc. I´m kinda tired to see girly girls play roles of mature professional women – coughJessica Albacough… Kate is 23 and she looks 18… if I have to guess the idea is to appeal to the teenage audience, why come up with a story where she´s a mom and Supes is an old boyfriend? Doesn´t sound like The OC to me…I´ll also agree that Supes is a bit too quiet, even though I love his “everyday I hear people crying for one” line and his final Jor-El speech to Jason.

As for Routh, I think he lacked a bit of Reeve´s screen presence, but overall I thought he worked well, especially as Clark, in a less bumbling version. Sam Huntington was very funny as Jimmy.

But maybe the scene I felt the most was the one where Richard, Lois and Jason were drowning and they´re saved… I think that moment defines Superman in so many ways… The hope of a miracle, of being rescued from an impossible danger, hope springing when it seems completely lost. To me it made more of a mark than the plane rescue or even the lift of the island…

I may not be able to put SR up there with my beloved Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins – it´s my fanboy bias, I´m too much of a Spidey/Bats fan. But SR to me is a crafty, entertaining, and heartfelt superhero movie. I can accept many criticisms to it, except that Singer didn´t put genuine love and dedication to making the best Superman movie he could. Whatever bias or take you have against SR, this a Superman fan´s movie. I believe it as I believe a man can fly.

Very well constructed review.

You're spot-on in noting Singer's influences - Donner of course, but also the classic cartoons (a bit of the 90's cartoons) and the 50's TV show. The result was an intruiging combination of the three - if you look for such things.

Most notable perhaps is that the comicbooks themselves have less direct infuence on Superman Returns than the previous screen versions of Superman. Of course they are all based on the comic, but Singer has absorbed them rather than go directly to the source. Which may be ultimately why Returns works so well - Singer, instead of just looking at the comics, looks at what works onscreen from previous versions.

Reading your opinions, I found very little to disagree with....for me, the biggest issue I had going in was Singer's sober directorial style; he backed away from traditional superheroics with X-Men, so how would he handle Superman?

When we see the shot of Superman standing on the plane, lifting the shuttle off, and the John Williams theme elevated to almost religious levels, my mind was put at rest. Singer didn't want to make a movie about Bizarro or Braniac or Doomsday, he wanted to make the purest Superman movie, and that's simply a man from the sky wth incredible powers saving people. As I say, the music, as well as the cinematography, take this beyond any previous version of Superman and present him as a mythical saviour performing miracles. In this take on Superman, Singer's take, I feel Brandon Routh is more appropriate than Reeve - Routh has a selflessness and innocence and gentleness to him. His Superman has an aura of being above humans, an angelic quality. His emotions are less on show than Reeve, he smiles less, he seems to know everything and be perfect and completely sure of himself.

Notably, when Donner's Superman rescues people, they shout, "Superman!" with relief and he smiles at them. When Singer's Superman rescues people, they simply look up at him in speechless awe.

Donner's view of Superman is of a good man with great powers, grounded by his Smallville upbringing. Reeve played Superman as the ultimate wholesome, simple boy scout, one dedicated to helping others with a smile on his face. Whereas Brandon seems like a hovering guardian, there to save people from disaster but forever beyond them emotionally.

On a final note, it's pleasing to see someone who understands the old-fashioned dynamics of Superman stories. Superman is not about fighting supervillains, like Batman is. Superman is about characters being placed in danger and Superman rescuing them at the last minute. Most of the time, Superman is not the character at risk, it's Lois or Jimmy or the people of Metropolis. If you don't understand this set-up you won't ever enjoy Superman Returns, or in fact Superman in any medium bar Superman II.
 
daveswb said:
Things that suprised me:
How much Routh reminded me of Reed. It was almost creepy.

He was a lot like Oliver Reed! Good call!

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Kevin Roegele said:
He was a lot like Oliver Reed! Good call!

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Hmmm... Photoshop Reed's moustache over Routh's face and that will be even more obvious.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
Very well constructed review.

You're spot-on in noting Singer's influences - Donner of course, but also the classic cartoons (a bit of the 90's cartoons) and the 50's TV show. The result was an intruiging combination of the three - if you look for such things.

Most notable perhaps is that the comicbooks themselves have less direct infuence on Superman Returns than the previous screen versions of Superman. Of course they are all based on the comic, but Singer has absorbed them rather than go directly to the source. Which may be ultimately why Returns works so well - Singer, instead of just looking at the comics, looks at what works onscreen from previous versions.

Reading your opinions, I found very little to disagree with....for me, the biggest issue I had going in was Singer's sober directorial style; he backed away from traditional superheroics with X-Men, so how would he handle Superman?

When we see the shot of Superman standing on the plane, lifting the shuttle off, and the John Williams theme elevated to almost religious levels, my mind was put at rest. Singer didn't want to make a movie about Bizarro or Braniac or Doomsday, he wanted to make the purest Superman movie, and that's simply a man from the sky wth incredible powers saving people. As I say, the music, as well as the cinematography, take this beyond any previous version of Superman and present him as a mythical saviour performing miracles. In this take on Superman, Singer's take, I feel Brandon Routh is more appropriate than Reeve - Routh has a selflessness and innocence and gentleness to him. His Superman has an aura of being above humans, an angelic quality. His emotions are less on show than Reeve, he smiles less, he seems to know everything and be perfect and completely sure of himself.

Notably, when Donner's Superman rescues people, they shout, "Superman!" with relief and he smiles at them. When Singer's Superman rescues people, they simply look up at him in speechless awe.

Donner's view of Superman is of a good man with great powers, grounded by his Smallville upbringing. Reeve played Superman as the ultimate wholesome, simple boy scout, one dedicated to helping others with a smile on his face. Whereas Brandon seems like a hovering guardian, there to save people from disaster but forever beyond them emotionally.

On a final note, it's pleasing to see someone who understands the old-fashioned dynamics of Superman stories. Superman is not about fighting supervillains, like Batman is. Superman is about characters being placed in danger and Superman rescuing them at the last minute. Most of the time, Superman is not the character at risk, it's Lois or Jimmy or the people of Metropolis. If you don't understand this set-up you won't ever enjoy Superman Returns, or in fact Superman in any medium bar Superman II.
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, I think it made sense for this story to make Superman a little more distant from us, maybe that´s part of why he talks less. I think that for the sequel he´ll be better adjusted and closer, now that he feels more fulfilled as being one of us.
 
Ha Ha...I don't see how that guy looks like Routh.
 
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