Iron Man 2 OFFICIAL: Rate & Review Iron Man 2

[Nathan]

I surprisingly didn't notice the absence of Ramin Djawadi's score. And it's not like I missed it, even though I liked it in the first movie. Whatever music that was in it's place instead in the 2nd, it was good, because I enjoyed the movie completely.

 

[strikezone89]

I don't understand how people prefered Howard over Cheadle. Yes Howard was more "Buddy buddy" with RDJ in the film and it was shown on film. BUT... Howard is suppose to be playing a military officer. I didn't see that in Howard but definatley saw it in cheadle. I suppose it's just a prefrence choice.

 

[Marvin]

i honestly think their falling out would have touched on stronger emotions if it was Terrance (from now one you ride with me) Howard.

drama > "believablility" in modern comicbook film imo.
just see begins vs TDK

 

[GhostPoet]

I don't understand how people prefered Howard over Cheadle. Yes Howard was more "Buddy buddy" with RDJ in the film and it was shown on film. BUT... Howard is suppose to be playing a military officer. I didn't see that in Howard but definatley saw it in cheadle. I suppose it's just a prefrence choice.

I agree 100% with you. I didn't like the previous actor.

 

[Hmarrs]

i honestly think their falling out would have touched on stronger emotions if it was Terrance (from now one you ride with me) Howard.

drama > "believablility" in modern comicbook film imo.
just see begins vs TDK

True very true.For instance as i'm watching the Movie I'm thinking to myself how in the heck does he have access to the room with the suits and a security password to get in.Then it dawned on me that in part one Rhodey goes in that same room looks at the suit and say"Next time."I completly didn't put it together but I would have had it been the same person.Good point.However why did you throw TDK in the mix?Unless you mean by Racheal not being the same person from the first one.Wich would have hit the emotional factor even more when she died.

 

[Figs]

One more thing: am I the only one who missed Ramin Djawadi´s score - not that I dislike AC/DC or The Clash, but wanted more of a score.

I did as well.

People say that it was forgettable but that's what everyone says now days about most scores...unless it's their favorite composer.

I saw IM2 three times and each time I left the theatre I had no remembrance of the score. Someone did mention the theme used when Stark is building the Mark I is also used when Ivan is creating his arc reactor but it's a different mix. On second viewing I did in fact recognize it.

Personally I liked the rock score that was used when he was suiting up and flying in the Mark II for the first time, that actually got me pumped.

 

[Marvin]

yea, tdk lost alot with racheal imo, katie would have actually done better in the sequel I think.

I only bring it up however because the sequel got way more dramtic beats compared to the first one which was more about proving how real and "believable" the nolan verse is.

I honestly just never like Recasting.
it always effects things in negative ways imo. This all started with the oracle from the matrix.

 

[roach]

I honestly just never like Recasting.
it always effects things in negative ways imo. This all started with the oracle from the matrix.

they couldnt help it the original Oracle died

 

[Maximum Carnage]

Rhodey and Stark = Best friends... It's obvious.

 

[Hmarrs]

Wife and I just watched it last night. Definitely not as good as the first, but without question a good sequel. I'm leaning 7.5-8/10, so I voted 8.
Here are my nitpicks:

1. Rockwell annoyed the hell out of me as Hammer.Maybe that was his intention, I guess. The obviously over the top tan was hilarious. His red palms were a nice touch to what they were trying to pull of with his character. Made me glad RDJ got the role as Iron Man and not him.

Thank you I could not figure out what the deal was with his palms were.
Also the character he played was almost like a parody of himself.As Hammer desperatly wants to emulate and be Tony Stark.A kind of surealism as Rockwell was to be Tony Stark before RDJ almost in the same way there was a surrealism as Downey who was on top of the the world as an actor and then fell because of his substance abuse.That he would play Tony Stark who after being on top of his game falls to substance abuse.Now relishing in all of the sudden attention just as Stark is in revealing"I am Iron Man".As Downey says in the second Film"It's good to be back'.Who saying that Downey or Stark?
I'm starting to think Favorou is doing this on purpose.

 

[Figs]

You guys are overly whining, virtually none of the 3 big fights were in the trailers.

Think about this. The final armor for Whiplash was a pretty well kept secret until the movie's release. No toy images. People were whining over a crappy video game concept image or something that was nowhere close to what was in the final cut of the movie.

We only saw bits and pieces of the race track fight and the mark IV/mark II fight. None of the double repulsor blast bits or the big weapon displays in the big fights.

Well said.

The problem as usual is from all the fails that watch every single sneak preview clip and all those scene clips the studio released a week before the film is out. They did the same **** with TDK in regards to releasing like 12 clips.

Personally, I was happy with the action and I think it has to do with not being spoiled or having way too high of expectations. Take the first film for example. So many people cried that it was anticlimactic at the end but I enjoyed that fight. I really never understood how people would call it anticlimactic when Obediah had him dead to rights for the most part. I guess it once again had to do with the fan's own faults for getting their expectations up too high and expected some global epic end of the world/USA climax.

Some people are never happy...and lulz to comments like "I went down to tie my shoes and the fight was already over". You must be incredibly "slow" if it took you that long to tie your shoes. The end fight with Whiplash may have not been that long but on multiple viewings I came to appreciate it and it also wasn't necessarily that short either. I felt that mixed in with the drone battle it was a well rounded battle for IM and WM.

 

[Ironfan72]

One of the local radio djs saw the film and he loved the first one (notoriuos for hating anything popular), he said he hated the second one, saying no action as compared to the first film, Robert Downey was not as funny as he was in the first and he hated how Don Cheadle became the second Iron Man, it made no sense to him.
Personally, I loved the action in the one, as well as the dialoge Downey had, so I have heard those complaints and honestly can't see how they are founded.

 

[Steyin]

Ok, I saw this Saturday night in IMAX in NYC, so here goes.

I should note first that I rewatched IM the night before. I paid more attention to Shield's presence and Howard as Rhodey, because I didn't feel Shield was an issue in IM, and I wasn't too keen on Howard so I wanted a better comparison to Cheadle. I'll start by saying that I prefer Howard over Cheadle, not that Cheadle wasn't good as Rhodey, but I enjoyed Howard's take; it felt more relatable and not as distant as Cheadle did for me. Minor thing.

Now as for all the nitpicks I've been reading by film critics and board members here, I didn't find any of them. The pacing of the film was fine, but felt slightly lacking as IM did, I watched the deleted/extended scenes after IM the night before and thought a lot would have been helpful to strengthen the film a little bit more. I'll say the same for IM2 knowing that we have 30 minutes of unused footage. Again, overall, minor issue.

The cast was great all around, action was awesome although fast paced and hard to keep up with visually sometimes, but enjoyable nonetheless. I didn't feel the Avengers/Shield integration was any more or less bothersome than in IM, but rather felt it tied in better this time around. All the little nods/easter eggs were great and didn't distract in the slightest. Black Widow's part made more sense after the whole party scene.

Now as for Whiplash...I enjoyed him, but in all honesty preferred Rockwell as Hammer as a "villain". WL was too reserved, and I wish his physical part in the final battle was longer, but then again being up against two iron men...it makes sense he went out as fast as he did. I'm just glad that the whole chase sequence with the drones and WM lead right into it, otherwise it would have felt like a rehashed, rushed weak fight like the end of IM, which wasn't as bad upon my re-viewing the night before.

I'd say Rockwell was the scene stealer, and I'm glad his character is still around, albeit in handcuffs. The only thing I didn't like was the end scene with the medals; it felt like Star Wars in a way, and it just ends. I don't know, it felt a little bleek after the sort of cliff hanger ending from IM.

Still, overall, the film was solid, had a great balance of action/comedy/drama, etc, and was fun and enjoyable. A more noteable reference to the 10 rings would have been great (even a mention about the passport guy), but no biggie. I give it 9/10.

 

[Hmarrs]

Well said.
Some people are never happy...and lulz to comments like "I went down to tie my shoes and the fight was already over". You must be incredibly "slow" if it took you that long to tie your shoes. The end fight with Whiplash may have not been that long but on multiple viewings I came to appreciate it and it also wasn't necessarily that short either. I felt that mixed in with the drone battle it was a well rounded battle for IM and WM.

That was me.I'm the shoe guy.Okay have a sense of humor now.
Basically you have to admit while it was a good battle it was far from epic or the build up they were giving it.When you watch a villian plan his attack for 2/3's of the movie you want to see him last a little longer then 3 minutes.C'mon dude be real he took two shots had them stuck.They shot it was over.C'mon with that much build up,in my mind I saw him as a bigger threat then what he was was.I kept thinking he was going to get up and continue.Instead of them going with a Modern day ending of Predetor from the 1980's.The ending should be the biggest most suspenseful part of the movie.The fight on the track was more fun and exciting and had more suspense.

 

[The Chris]

I don't understand how people prefered Howard over Cheadle. Yes Howard was more "Buddy buddy" with RDJ in the film and it was shown on film. BUT... Howard is suppose to be playing a military officer. I didn't see that in Howard but definatley saw it in cheadle. I suppose it's just a prefrence choice.

After my second viewing, I prefer Cheadle definitely. I prefer the bickering between the two, both vicious and humorous. Cheadle's performance in the third act in particular became so much fun to watch. I love the two of them talking about who was the big gun and all of the that, and the roof scene. I kind of wish he was Rhodes in the original now (though I liked Howard). This is one recast that I think works.

By the way, as for the movie

first viewing was a 4/5, second is a 4.5/5 (same as the original, though I think the original is still better, but to me that matters not)

 

[danoyse]

Well said.

The problem as usual is from all the fails that watch every single sneak preview clip and all those scene clips the studio released a week before the film is out. They did the same **** with TDK in regards to releasing like 12 clips.

Personally, I was happy with the action and I think it has to do with not being spoiled or having way too high of expectations. Take the first film for example. So many people cried that it was anticlimactic at the end but I enjoyed that fight. I really never understood how people would call it anticlimactic when Obediah had him dead to rights for the most part. I guess it once again had to do with the fan's own faults for getting their expectations up too high and expected some global epic end of the world/USA climax.

Some people are never happy...and lulz to comments like "I went down to tie my shoes and the fight was already over". You must be incredibly "slow" if it took you that long to tie your shoes. The end fight with Whiplash may have not been that long but on multiple viewings I came to appreciate it and it also wasn't necessarily that short either. I felt that mixed in with the drone battle it was a well rounded battle for IM and WM.

This is why I didn't watch any of the clips or watch anything beyond the trailers before I saw the movie. I even stopped watching the TV spots. By the time I saw the movie on Friday night I knew next to nothing about what was supposed to happen, and wound up having fun watching the whole movie.

It's so much better to watch a movie that way.

 

[Hmarrs]

Still, overall, the film was solid, had a great balance of action/comedy/drama, etc, and was fun and enjoyable. A more noteable reference to the 10 rings would have been great (even a mention about the passport guy),

What do you mean by this???What are the 10 rings???

 

[danoyse]

That was me.I'm the shoe guy.Okay have a sense of humor now.
Basically you have to admit while it was a good battle it was far from epic or the build up they were giving it.When you watch a villian plan his attack for 2/3's of the movie you want to see him last a little longer then 3 minutes.C'mon dude be real he took two shots had them stuck.They shot it was over.C'mon with that much build up,in my mind I saw him as a bigger threat then what he was was.I kept thinking he was going to get up and continue.Instead of them going with a Modern day ending of Predetor from the 1980's.The ending should be the biggest most suspenseful part of the movie.The fight on the track was more fun and exciting and had more suspense.

Yeah, but if the villian was that good, he wouldn't need more than 3 minutes to take out the good guy.

And why would you need to tie your shoes during a movie?

 

[El Santo]

"No action!"
"Why was Natasha even there?"
"Too slow!"
"End fight was too short!"
"I don't like Don Cheadle!"

*sigh*
I know it's an opinion and all, but some of these complaints are so incomprehensible to me, that I'm not even going to try to debate them. It'd be an experiment that would only end in tears, as a RDJ's character once said.

I loved this movie, though. I loved it a bit more than the first one, which I love a lot. It just felt like a natural progression of events in the first one, which is what a good sequel should be, IMO. 9/10.

 

[danoyse]

Which by the way you can surely see the Disney influenece already,as I felt like I watching a Walt Disney film when he first was promoting his future plans for Epcott.

I believe that was intentional.

It was funny because my buddy sitting next to me works at Disney and he didn't know Disney had bought Marvel and he bagan to exclaim his Dejavu experience right down to the music.

Wow...I know quite a few people at Disney and they all know about the Marvel merger, they're all hoping IM2 will help their 401k's.

 

[Downhere]

That was me.I'm the shoe guy.Okay have a sense of humor now.
Basically you have to admit while it was a good battle it was far from epic or the build up they were giving it.When you watch a villian plan his attack for 2/3's of the movie you want to see him last a little longer then 3 minutes.C'mon dude be real he took two shots had them stuck.They shot it was over.C'mon with that much build up,in my mind I saw him as a bigger threat then what he was was.I kept thinking he was going to get up and continue.Instead of them going with a Modern day ending of Predetor from the 1980's.The ending should be the biggest most suspenseful part of the movie.The fight on the track was more fun and exciting and had more suspense.

I have to agree with you, the end battle needed to be longer considering they were building it up to be this huge fight and then poof, it's over in 2 minutes.

 

[Raiden]

I believe that was intentional.



Wow...I know quite a few people at Disney and they all know about the Marvel merger, they're all hoping IM2 will help their 401k's.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the resemblance between Howard Stark and Walt Disney. And I take it that your Disney friends are happy about the Disney-Marvel merger too right?

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Well said.

The problem as usual is from all the fails that watch every single sneak preview clip and all those scene clips the studio released a week before the film is out. They did the same **** with TDK in regards to releasing like 12 clips.

Personally, I was happy with the action and I think it has to do with not being spoiled or having way too high of expectations. Take the first film for example. So many people cried that it was anticlimactic at the end but I enjoyed that fight. I really never understood how people would call it anticlimactic when Obediah had him dead to rights for the most part. I guess it once again had to do with the fan's own faults for getting their expectations up too high and expected some global epic end of the world/USA climax.

Some people are never happy...and lulz to comments like "I went down to tie my shoes and the fight was already over". You must be incredibly "slow" if it took you that long to tie your shoes. The end fight with Whiplash may have not been that long but on multiple viewings I came to appreciate it and it also wasn't necessarily that short either. I felt that mixed in with the drone battle it was a well rounded battle for IM and WM.

you win the thread!

 

[Hmarrs]

I believe that was intentional.



Wow...I know quite a few people at Disney and they all know about the Marvel merger, they're all hoping IM2 will help their 401k's.

Of course it was intentional are you kidding me right down to the suit.Even the wording"Building a better tommorrow."I be honest I dont like it.I hope this isn't somthing they plan on continuing.It makes me nauscious.

 

[El Santo]

People want longer fights? Watch Drunken Master 2, it's an amazing film with a 20-mins long final battle.

I just can't understand why people think the fights here are short. These are battles with mechanical suits with a bunch of weapons that can basically pulverize stuff, why would they be super long? Weapons are used, punches are thrown, and **** gets thrown around, all done with great choreography and effects. What's the problem?