Iron Man 2 OFFICIAL: Rate & Review Iron Man 2

[Ipodman]

Wow dude, I mean...WOW.

Have you even bothered to watch his other work aside from than the mainstream stuff? I mean, seriously...

And JMO, TDK is a much better film than Begins. Begins was more in line of a streamlined superhero origin story. TDK tried to be more than that and succeeded.

But both films were fantastic in their own right.

Yep Yep... they are both awesome in different ways

And do we really need to discuss The Dark KNight in Iron Man 2 review thread?

For Iron Man 2, they shoudnt have shown us the briefcase armour in the trailer... neither the drones chasing Iron Man.

Its like they flashed out the whole movie for us in the trailers so there was no element of surprise...

The one thing that they kept from us, Whiplash final armour wasnt that good tbh... Should have used the design from Iron Man vs Whiplash comic.

Just my thoughts

 

[The Joker]

Saw it for a second time last night. It didn't hold up well on a repeat viewing, and a lot of the flaws became even more glaring.

Vanko was more bland this time around. Scarlet was more pointless than I remembered. Rockwell, while amusing, made for a silly character.

I still prefer Cheadle over Howard. Pepper was better in this movie, and one of the highlights. As for RDJ, he was better in the first movie. Those drunk party scenes were awful.

Not one of the better comic book movies overall. Wouldn't even make my top 10 list.

 

[Tony Stark]

American Psycho is easily Bale's best performance and that performance alone makes anyone who calls Bale uncharismatic a liar or horribly misinformed. Bale never should have played batman in the first place imo. He would have made a better joker more so than Ledger imo. Bale's bateman whipes the floor with Ledger's joker.

I'll agree that American Psycho was his best roll. I just haven't liked him in much anything else.

To me they should have gotten an American actor to play Bruce Wayne. You can call me a nationalist if you want, but wouldn't British fans be equally outraged if a Yank played James Bond? or Dr. Who?

I can tolerate his performance though, because the movies are good. But his performance pales in comparison to Keaton. It's too bad Keaton wasn't in a movie that focues on Wayne/Batman the way that Batman Begins did.

 

[Tony Stark]

Yep Yep... they are both awesome in different ways

And do we really need to discuss The Dark KNight in Iron Man 2 review thread?

For Iron Man 2, they shoudnt have shown us the briefcase armour in the trailer... neither the drones chasing Iron Man.

Its like they flashed out the whole movie for us in the trailers so there was no element of surprise...

The one thing that they kept from us, Whiplash final armour wasnt that good tbh... Should have used the design from Iron Man vs Whiplash comic.

Just my thoughts

I agree about the briefcase armor, they really let the cat out of the bag with that one. I wasn't as bothered by the drone chase because it was so brief.

Cutting trailers is triky business because you want to wet people's apetites yet save the best for the big screen.

I also will agree with whiplash's final armor, but it did fit with the story line, having it look like the other Hammer armor. There were alot of things that apparently Rourke brought to the character that weren't in the comics, but enhanced the character. The tatoos he wears are that given to Russian mobsters. It gives a whole other level to him selling arms to Pakistanis, going to prison, etc.

 

[hatebox]

I'll agree that American Psycho was his best roll. I just haven't liked him in much anything else.

To me they should have gotten an American actor to play Bruce Wayne. You can call me a nationalist if you want, but wouldn't British fans be equally outraged if a Yank played James Bond? or Dr. Who?

Bale was always the fan favorite prior to being cast though, there's never been an American fan favorite for Bond. I suppose it's because Bond as a character is much more closely associated with his nationality than Batman is, what with the franchise being about international espionage and that eccentric kind of British humor/cool.

But yes, American Psycho is still Bale's best performance. Personally speaking I actually rate it up there with Ledger's Joker, and one only has to look at the film's IMDB page to see the cult following it has.

Err.. anyway, Iron Man 2.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I would like to say that after Iron Man 2, I'd like to think that Favreau is an even better director than I thought before.

Twice, he made the best of bad scripts by letting the actors act. Also, Iron Man 2 would've been much worse when Marvel forced him to cut scenes out of the film. I'd say Fav's did the best he could and saved this film along RDJ.

 

[Tony Stark]

OK, I know people have said alot about this film, but please tell me where Marvel forced Favreau to cut scenes in the movie? That's just rediculous. Favreau said the scene with Pepper and Tony on the C-130 was cut because he wanted Tony's first line to be "it's good to be back".

Now I agree with you that Favreau made the most of this movie, but people have been making up stuff about Marvel forcing him to put stuff in and cut stuff. Favreau is executive producer for the Avengers, so to think they're not giving him creative control is rediculous.

 

[Silent_Dave]

^I think you're the first person here to claim that IM2 had more and better action than IM1.

Am I wrong? I mean, IM1 really just had him breaking out w/ the mark I, and then him fighting Iron Monger at the end. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

OK, I know people have said alot about this film, but please tell me where Marvel forced Favreau to cut scenes in the movie? That's just rediculous. Favreau said the scene with Pepper and Tony on the C-130 was cut because he wanted Tony's first line to be "it's good to be back".

Now I agree with you that Favreau made the most of this movie, but people have been making up stuff about Marvel forcing him to put stuff in and cut stuff. Favreau is executive producer for the Avengers, so to think they're not giving him creative control is rediculous.

Thats what the impression many had was when Favreau talked about deleted scenes right around when the film came out. I thIought I read it in an article but I actually mistook it for an author's opinion.

Still, I still hope Fav's replaces Theroux for IM3.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

Am I wrong? I mean, IM1 really just had him breaking out w/ the mark I, and then him fighting Iron Monger at the end. Correct me if I'm wrong.

the scene when he flys back to a town in the desert and saved the dad from getting shot right before avoiding the USAF.

that was one big bad ass scene right there

 

[Silent_Dave]

the scene when he flys back to a town in the desert and saved the dad from getting shot right before avoiding the USAF.

that was one big bad ass scene right there

Agreed.

 

[Tony Stark]

Thats what the impression many had was when Favreau talked about deleted scenes right around when the film came out. I thIought I read it in an article but I actually mistook it for an author's opinion.

Still, I still hope Fav's replaces Theroux for IM3.

Fair enough. I think the one thing IM3 has going for it that other superhero movies have struggled with, is that IM will get to face his archnemesis in the third film. Other movies, like Burton's Batman and the Spider-man films, they put the big baddie in the first film, and by the time they've exhausted the big villians they're moving down to the B-listers.

IM does not have the Rogues gallery other superhero's do, but if they had used Mandarin out of the bat, it would be way more pressure on the writing crew for a third outing.

 

[BestGirl]

Am I wrong? I mean, IM1 really just had him breaking out w/ the mark I, and then him fighting Iron Monger at the end. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's your opinion whether the action in IM2 was better or not, but the action scenes were definitely really short. I don't remember IM1 all that well but I think its action scenes lasted longer.

 

[Silent_Dave]

It's your opinion whether the action in IM2 was better or not, but the action scenes were definitely really short. I don't remember IM1 all that well but I think its action scenes lasted longer.

Good point. It's just that IM2 seemed a bit more fast-paced. IM1 was all about him building the suit. Im not saying that IM2 is better, because it's not. It's just that the action seemed better.

 

[Anita18]

For Iron Man 2, they shoudnt have shown us the briefcase armour in the trailer... neither the drones chasing Iron Man.

Its like they flashed out the whole movie for us in the trailers so there was no element of surprise...

Well the briefcase armor was in the middle of the movie, so spoiling it wouldn't be so bad as say, spoiling the entirety of the climax.

And the trailers will always give away money shots. The trick is having other really cool stuff in the movie so you aren't forced to give away your only money shots in the trailers.

OK, I know people have said alot about this film, but please tell me where Marvel forced Favreau to cut scenes in the movie? That's just rediculous. Favreau said the scene with Pepper and Tony on the C-130 was cut because he wanted Tony's first line to be "it's good to be back".

IMO that moment suffered a bit of the Bryan-Singer-in-SR syndrome - sacrificing pacing, story, and character for something "cool." I think it would have supported the story and characterization more if we saw a bit of Tony under the helmet having a chat with Pepper before he broke out the showmanship at the Expo. Instead of wordlessly jumping out of the plane. The guy isn't Batman on a mission, he's got a public image to support and it would have been really cool to see how he approached it.

 

[Iron_Stark]

It's your opinion whether the action in IM2 was better or not, but the action scenes were definitely really short. I don't remember IM1 all that well but I think its action scenes lasted longer.

No they didn't.

 

[Silent_Dave]

No they didn't.

I just watched it again last night, and you're right.

 

[Tony Stark]

IMO that moment suffered a bit of the Bryan-Singer-in-SR syndrome - sacrificing pacing, story, and character for something "cool." I think it would have supported the story and characterization more if we saw a bit of Tony under the helmet having a chat with Pepper before he broke out the showmanship at the Expo. Instead of wordlessly jumping out of the plane. The guy isn't Batman on a mission, he's got a public image to support and it would have been really cool to see how he approached it.

I get why people are confused, having seen it in the trailer and not in the film. However I agree with Favreau's decision. Having Tony's first line be "it's good to be back" is a very powerful entrance, that would have been diminished by the previous banter between Pepper and Tony. There's plenty of that stuff already in the film.

Wheather or not you agree with it, Marvel had nothing to do with cutting that scene.

Executive producers certainly have input on a film and even editors have alot of say in how a movie is going to be cut, but if anyone suggests Favreau was hamstrung that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[BestGirl]

No they didn't.

I just watched it again last night, and you're right.

Hmm, then I wonder why so many people thought the opposite. I don't remember anyone complaining about the length of the action scenes in IM1.

 

[Tony Stark]

Hmm, then I wonder why so many people thought the opposite. I don't remember anyone complaining about the length of the action scenes in IM1.

??? That was one of the biggest complaints of IM1 was the Iron Monger fight wasn't very long. I even made that complaint, even though I loved the movie.

 

[Silent_Dave]

Hmm, then I wonder why so many people thought the opposite. I don't remember anyone complaining about the length of the action scenes in IM1.

You don't? Huh, well I thought that was the only downside to IM1. The only one, but a big one. The final fight dissapointed everyone I know that saw the movie.

 

[S_H_F_4839]

Hmm, then I wonder why so many people thought the opposite. I don't remember anyone complaining about the length of the action scenes in IM1.

that's because the first im had a story that firmly kept ur attention and the story made up for the short action scenes. im2 didn't do that for me personally.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

I just saw it for the first time late last night!

It was AMAZING!!!
I loved it more than the first one.

I didn't see a single teaser or trailer.
It's good not to have a TV, or ever-present internet!

 

[Iron_Stark]

Hmm, then I wonder why so many people thought the opposite. I don't remember anyone complaining about the length of the action scenes in IM1.

There were plenty of complaints, hell even I complained.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

IMO that moment suffered a bit of the Bryan-Singer-in-SR syndrome - sacrificing pacing, story, and character for something "cool." I think it would have supported the story and characterization more if we saw a bit of Tony under the helmet having a chat with Pepper before he broke out the showmanship at the Expo. Instead of wordlessly jumping out of the plane. The guy isn't Batman on a mission, he's got a public image to support and it would have been really cool to see how he approached it.

I must be the only person who thought Iron Man was descending on a war zone in that first scene....only to be surprised that he ended up at the Expo.

If the Pepper scene was cut from that....good move Favreau. Including that would have totally spoiled that vibe.