Official Rate & Review Spider-Man 3 Thread! *SPOILERS*

[tehkao]

Yeah but the first 2 movies didnt have to rely on such lazy "devices". The 3rd one has a lot of them. It's just a weak script.

Also my biggest gripe is how little screen time Venom got. After you see Venom's origin, the movie pretty much rushes to the final battle and wham it's over. It's really a huge waste and injustice to the best Spidey villain of all time.

They really should have just made a Spiderman 4 with nothing but Venom.

They could have shown more screen time of Venom trying to stalk Spidey...trying to ruin his life in other ways and become his ultimate tormentor...but we'll never see that now.

 

[Visionary]

It's not like they could do a Secret Wars. And the space shuttle would have added 50 to 60M more bucks to the budget. The meteorite works, unless you wanted the whole Ultimate comics Cancer origin.

 

[tehkao]

tehkao, you have your own opinion for this film and I respect that you do but I gaurantee I'm going to have a different opinion after I see the film. Spidey3 has been said that in it's first review which was awesome that it will teach us something and quite frankly I believe that. I learned something from the first two films so why not the third? anyway, I like the route Sam when't with these films and I have read the novilezation and I was blown away when I was done reading it. Harrys death was deeply sad and the storyline was absoloutley fantastic but thats just my opinion.

I didn't say the storyline was bad or that Harry's death wasn't poignant. But it's just that the script was poor. A novel can have a lot more detailed dialogue than a movie, but apparently they didn't do a good job of translating it to the film.

BTW, I didn't read the novel, but how does it explain MJ's "breakup" with Peter in the park?

 

[FinchersGhost]

For me, these movies really hinge on the moral. As long as there is a clear moral that Peter finds, and he did in the book, that's all that matters. Everything else is gravy.

 

[FinchersGhost]

I didn't say the storyline was bad or that Harry's death wasn't poignant. But it's just that the script was poor. A novel can have a lot more detailed dialogue than a movie, but apparently they didn't do a good job of translating it to the film.

BTW, I didn't read the novel, but how does it explain MJ's "breakup" with Peter in the park?

An elaborate Harry scheme to humiliate Peter. Peter is crushed and confused.

 

[tehkao]

It's not like they could do a Secret Wars. And the space shuttle would have added 50 to 60M more bucks to the budget. The meteorite works, unless you wanted the whole Ultimate comics Cancer origin.

I dunno...these are Hollywood scriptwriters...they get paid millions to do this stuff. So I was expecting something more clever, that's all.

If they were able to come up with scientific, believable origin for something as ridiculous as a guy with 4 tentacles...why can't they do it for the symbiote?

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Also my biggest gripe is how little screen time Venom got. After you see Venom's origin, the movie pretty much rushes to the final battle and wham it's over. It's really a huge waste and injustice to the best Spidey villain of all time.

They really should have just made a Spiderman 4 with nothing but Venom.

They could have shown more screen time of Venom trying to stalk Spidey...trying to ruin his life in other ways and become his ultimate tormentor...but we'll never see that now.

The best Spidey villain of all-time was in SM2. I really don't care about Venom one way or the other. He'll be good for eye candy and that's about it. I'm sure a lot of Venom fans will be pissed but as far as I'm concerned good riddance. He should have never been in this film in the first place. I would have rather seen The Lizard since Connors was at least present in Part 2.

 

[tehkao]

An elaborate Harry scheme to humiliate Peter. Peter is crushed and confused.

Ok, but why would MJ even go along with the scheme? Especially now that she knows Harry is the goblin?

Why wouldn't she just tell Peter the truth?

 

[Takeshi Sendo]

Tehkkao but the people says that Venom is in screen minimun 20 minutes...its true?

 

[FinchersGhost]

Because Harry threatened to Kill Peter - She didn't want to take the gamble that Peter wouldn't get hurt.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

The only Brazilian review so far says the movie is good, but the script is not as good as the first two, relying on too many "coincidences". The action is great tho.

 

[tehkao]

Tehkkao but the people says that Venom is in screen minimun 20 minutes...its true?

I don't know the exact number of minutes, all I know is after you see his origin, he kidnaps MJ, and then he fights Spiderman in the final battle (which lasts about 15 mins) and that's it....oh and you see him for about 15 seconds asking Sandman to join with him...

 

[Village_Idiot]

1) Harry said he'd be watching her every move

2) Green Goblin is the greatest Spider-man villain of all time , well the comicbook version , not so much the movie version

3) 20 minutes of Venom in this movie is 20 minutes to long

 

[Takeshi Sendo]

Very thanks tehkao!****...if only is 15 minutes....somebody said that he is in screen half an hour!well..doesnt matter.

pd: answer mi MP please...

 

[XXTBWCXX]

Yeah but the first 2 movies didnt have to rely on such lazy "devices". The 3rd one has a lot of them. It's just a weak script.

Also my biggest gripe is how little screen time Venom got. After you see Venom's origin, the movie pretty much rushes to the final battle and wham it's over. It's really a huge waste and injustice to the best Spidey villain of all time.

They really should have just made a Spiderman 4 with nothing but Venom.

They could have shown more screen time of Venom trying to stalk Spidey...trying to ruin his life in other ways and become his ultimate tormentor...but we'll never see that now.

Venom is one of Spider-Man's greatest enemies, yes, but I do think he does get justice in Spider-Man 3...there are two key points that do need to be developed to create Venom...Eddie Brock and the symbiote...and they both do develop through the movie which then combines to make Venom...Venom doesn't have a story to tell, Eddie Brock and the symbiote do...Venom is just needed to kick Spidey around, and I've heard he does a very good job at that too...so, I'm not gonna be like a million other people in this board and just ***** about Venom's screen time...get over with it, it's happened, it's done, Venom's in the movie, just be happy with it.

P.S. It's not even a "lazy" device.
P.S.S. It's not just fifteen seconds when Venom asks Sandman to join.

I dunno...these are Hollywood scriptwriters...they get paid millions to do this stuff. So I was expecting something more clever, that's all.

If they were able to come up with scientific, believable origin for something as ridiculous as a guy with 4 tentacles...why can't they do it for the symbiote?

Green Goblin is Spider-Man's greatest nemesis, and number two on that list is Doc Ock...so if you're calling Doc Ock ridiculous, you're pretty ridiculous yourself...Venom might be up there in the list, but Doc Ock is more intelligent than Venom and that's why Ock got his own movie and Venom didn't.

 

[Naite22]

Hey everyone. I was also lucky enough to get into the same screening in LA that Buddha went to. I read his review and agree with most of it, but I just wanted to add a few points of my own:

I thought the main reason the movie didn't feel as emotional, despite having a darker theme, is simply the fault of the script. The dialogue felt very forced and predictable. Also things happened without much explanation or logic. I don't want to spoil aything, but 2 potentially very emotional scenes, 1 where MJ "breaks up" with Peter, and 1 where Harry has his "change of heart", were not effective because of these faults.

As you all know, it takes more than a good story to make a good movie. It takes a talented scriptwriter to flesh out the details and to draw the audience in. The Spiderman 3 script failed at this.

Also, the audience response at the end of the movie was weak. There were only a few weak claps, and people rapidly walked out. Buddha was there and can attest to this.

In fact there wasn't much enthusiastic audience response during the movie at all. I think one reason is that the movie just dragged on a bit too long and failed to draw the audience in. Except for one (unintentionally) funny moment when MJ gets knocked to the ground, some dude yelled "Yeah!" and everyone laughed. t:

Also...I thought the music was weak and a bit repetitive and not as good as Elfman's work...

I also agree with Buddha that the "origin" of the symbiote was handled rather poorly. Actually a lot of other things in the movie suffered from the same problem. It's as if the scriptwriters were too lazy, or not imaginative enough, to come up with good or logical explanations for things. Or it could be that a lot was left on the cutting room floor, since the movie was long enough as it is. Overall it made it harder to suspend disbelief while watching it...the movie just sort of expects you to accept things as is, and just go along with the ride. This is a big letdown IMHO from Spiderman 2, where the plot and character development flowed very well and very logically.

I think they just tried to cram too much characters and plotlines and twists and fan service into a single movie.

Ouuuch!!!

This makes me pretty sad to read, but I'm not gonna pretend that I didn't read it. I'm very disappointed after reading this. It's a bit sad if the core of this film isn't as strong as in the 2'nd movie!... God I hate beeing DEhyped like this from early reviews before even having seen the flick my self! (But I can't help but to read them anyways) It's not that I'm not declined to believe you, it just makes me sad! I was so sure that this third chapter would be the absolute best of the three!

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

man, what's wrong with you people!!!????? there are so many good reviews and you pee on yourself everytime there's a bad one!!


I don't get it......

 

[tehkao]

The only Brazilian review so far says the movie is good, but the script is not as good as the first two, relying on too many "coincidences". The action is great tho.

LOL I definitely agree with that...

- Meteor with symbiote lands right next to Peter

- Peter takes Gwen to a club where MJ happens to work at

- Gwen is Peter's classmate who also happens to be dating Eddie Brock his biggest nemesis

- Eddie is in the same church at the same time that Peter rips off the symbiote suit

- Harry's butler decides to tell him the truth about his father at the most critical time after hiding it from him for so long

And I'm sure there's more....

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I didn't say the storyline was bad or that Harry's death wasn't poignant. But it's just that the script was poor. A novel can have a lot more detailed dialogue than a movie, but apparently they didn't do a good job of translating it to the film.

BTW, I didn't read the novel, but how does it explain MJ's "breakup" with Peter in the park?

it explains it very well. I just can't wait to see it on film. I saw some glimpses of it in the trailer such as MJ walking away and stuff. thats what I like that Sam does, he makes it sad and heart breaking which I'm really excited to see.

 

[Uber Venom]

LOL I definitely agree with that...

- Meteor with symbiote lands right next to Peter

- Peter takes Gwen to a club where MJ happens to work at

- Gwen is Peter's classmate who also happens to be dating Eddie Brock his biggest nemesis

- Eddie is in the same church at the same time that Peter rips off the symbiote suit

- Harry's butler decides to tell him the truth about his father at the most critical time after hiding it from him for so long

And I'm sure there's more....

In the book I think it explained that he took Gwen there on purpose to make MJ jealous. Guess it didn't translate well on-screen.

 

[tehkao]

Ouuuch!!!

This makes me pretty sad to read, but I'm not gonna pretend that I didn't read it. I'm very disappointed after reading this. It's a bit sad if the core of this film isn't as strong as in the 2'nd movie!... God I hate beeing DEhyped like this from early reviews before even having seen the flick my self! (But I can't help but to read them anyways) It's not that I'm not declined to believe you, it just makes me sad! I was so sure that this third chapter would be the absolute best of the three!

Uhh..don't be so down. It's still an enjoyable movie. If Spiderman 2 was the ESB of the trilogy, Spiderman 3 is at least the ROTJ, ie a lot more mindless action, weaker on the dialogue/emotion, more campy, but still a good movie

 

[Visionary]

I dunno...these are Hollywood scriptwriters...they get paid millions to do this stuff. So I was expecting something more clever, that's all.

If they were able to come up with scientific, believable origin for something as ridiculous as a guy with 4 tentacles...why can't they do it for the symbiote?

You guys and you're believable mentality in comic book films, seriously, with a man made of sand, and an unearthly symbiote that bonds with a person. It's pure fiction, Doc Ock, and even Spider-Man himself isn't believable in anyway, unless you're ******ed.

Venom Spider-Man's greatest villain of all-time...UGH.

 

[Uber Venom]

Does Sandman still have the Godzilla roar?

 

[Naite22]

^ Just take it a bit easy spiderhero12... You MIGHT be disappointed!... it's not always that it's as well executed as in a novel... far from it. But let's cross our fingers.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

You guys and you're believable mentality in comic book films, seriously, with a man made of sand, and an unearthly symbiote that bounds with a person. It's pure fiction, Doc Ock, and even Spider-Man himself isn't believable in anyway, unless you're ******ed.

Venom Spider-Man's greatest villain of all-time...UGH.

maybe they're ******ed.......>>What? <<