I don't intend on actually changing(for their benefit),I want to communicate to them that I am not that bad,it is their problem that I am not formulaic enough(lots of chicks love those guys imo). I like keeping it real,well for the most part that is. I don't have legit friends. The relatives thing is out of the question.
Talking to people isn't that hard, judging if/when there's actual mutual attraction is.Well this is going to come off as harsh, but you spent the last what 12 years of a dating age, doing what you are doing now and that's not working for you. So you are saying it's everyone else and not you? Talking to women is not that hard. Usually on a first date, I always keep the conversation on them and interject every so often. Call it formulaic or silly games. It's just how it is.


No, it sounds good, just run with it.Is it weird that instead of going for this really nice girl at my work who likes me and we get on really well and have a similar sense of humour,that I would rather wait and see what may happen with a girl my mate is trying to set me up with, who I met once and has something about her that's I dunno, different?
The only was I can describe it is she has a sort or energy/aura? it sounds really stupid I haven't really come across something like that before...but there's honestly just some sort of vibe I guess you could say..I dunno lol

Talking to people isn't that hard, judging if/when there's actual mutual attraction is.
And yeah, don't fake your personality, but do try other avenues to meet new people. What you're doing now obviously isn't working. You aren't going to meet girls if you don't go out to meet people at all. Miss Right isn't going to show up randomly at your doorstep, especially if she's gonna be a fellow hermit as well.
No, it sounds good, just run with it.![]()
Oh well. It's not the only way to meet them,and secondly,I am not expecting Miss Right to show up at my doorstep out of randomness. I can't just go out to meet a bunch of people just so I can meet girls,there has to be more to that strategy to make it worth while enough,even if I don't intend on doing that at all.
Or you could go get yourself chemically castrated. Should make things much easier and lets be honest, you aren't using your balls anyway.![]()
Ugh, this is Immortal all over again.
That's why I keep mentioning the online dating thing.Oh well. It's not the only way to meet them,and secondly,I am not expecting Miss Right to show up at my doorstep out of randomness. I can't just go out to meet a bunch of people just so I can meet girls,there has to be more to that strategy to make it worth while enough,even if I don't intend on doing that at all.
It works especially well for people who don't want to go out and meet random people just so they miiiight meet someone to date. You know exactly what the other person's there for, there's no does-she or doesn't-she.This was almost exactly what I read on a female-oriented forum, except it pertained to guys being shallow and not wanting girls that weren't hot.I have no invisible balls because imo,women are still so damn narrow minded when it comes to choosing guys that they perceive as worthy,this doesn't help provide me with more of a sense of confidence. If I was one of those really worthy and really normal guys,I would definitely have these special balls,but I am neither of those things. That would make me think that my chances are better. I will take responsibility for things(if necessary),but for most things in my situation? No I will not,when it comes to women.

That's why I keep mentioning the online dating thing.It works especially well for people who don't want to go out and meet random people just so they miiiight meet someone to date. You know exactly what the other person's there for, there's no does-she or doesn't-she.
This was almost exactly what I read on a female-oriented forum, except it pertained to guys being shallow and not wanting girls that weren't hot.
Truth is, you can't generalize such a large segment of the population like that. Sure SOME women and men are shallow, but you can easily find others that aren't. I can't think of any girls or guys I know who are shallow like that, but then again I work in an intellect-heavy field and we're all hippies anyway.
You can't help who you click with. Call it instant attraction, whatever.Is it weird that instead of going for this really nice girl at my work who likes me and we get on really well and have a similar sense of humour,that I would rather wait and see what may happen with a girl my mate is trying to set me up with, who I met once and has something about her that's I dunno, different?
The only was I can describe it is she has a sort or energy/aura? it sounds really stupid I haven't really come across something like that before...but there's honestly just some sort of vibe I guess you could say..I dunno lol
Yeah, but you don't want to go out with a bunch of people and be the sullen, creepy guy who never says anything. You have to interact with people and kinda show them who you are.Oh well. It's not the only way to meet them,and secondly,I am not expecting Miss Right to show up at my doorstep out of randomness. I can't just go out to meet a bunch of people just so I can meet girls,there has to be more to that strategy to make it worth while enough,even if I don't intend on doing that at all.
You sound like so many guys who seem to blame the gender for the hand they are dealt instead of looking inward. You are aware of your shortcomings (we all have them) but you seem to expect prospective women to bend and make it convenient for you.I think that it's true based on my personal sight and sound senses,I didn't say that every woman was like that. Only the people in the minority can get it right,I know women and men are shallow,but it's not what I was actually just touching on. I was just touching on the type of guys they are attracted to because of their preferences such as looks,interests,dislikes,character size,and lastly personality traits.
Yeah, but you don't want to go out with a bunch of people and be the sullen, creepy guy who never says anything. You have to interact with people and kinda show them who you are.
You sound like so many guys who seem to blame the gender for the hand they are dealt instead of looking inward. You are aware of your shortcomings (we all have them) but you seem to expect prospective women to bend and make it convenient for you.
Like I said earlier, talking to women isn't hard. But dating is. And you seem to have unbendable principles of how women should be based on very little personal experience. Watching a football game is a lot different than actually playing it. You have to throw yourself in the mix. And even if things don't work out, you use what you learned the next time you come into a similar circumstance.
See, you're still presuming what women would and wouldn't be attracted to. There's a person for everybody, you just have to smart in going about finding him/her.I think that it's true based on my personal sight and sound senses,I didn't say that every woman was like that. Only the people in the minority can get it right,I know women and men are shallow,but it's not what I was actually just touching on. I was just touching on the type of guys they are attracted to because of their preferences such as looks,interests,dislikes,character size,and lastly personality traits.
I'm not women's babysitter. Nor do I want to be. I can see how I would be making a mistaking,but on my side of the offence I don't see it at all.
See, you're still presuming what women would and wouldn't be attracted to. There's a person for everybody, you just have to smart in going about finding him/her.
You are making sweeping generalizations about women. They aren't some sort of alien species. (I've checked.) You seem to have some preexisting opinions of how women are and I'll be honest with you, for the most part you are way off. If all you know of women is stuff you read or watch or just observe and not from actual interactions, yeah you are way off.
You can't help who you click with. Call it instant attraction, whatever.
Lastly, who says you can't date both? See who you like better and who you connect with more then make an informed decision?
Yeah that's one way to put it. Intense instant attraction maybe a lil more fitting.
see that's true, thing is I hate breaking things off with people, specially when there really nice lol
any tips for that one?
I might date both...thing is I would actually feel like I'm just dating the girl at work until I get another chance to meet my friends set up...I'm waaay more attracted to the mates girl than the one at work aswell.
I have no invisible balls because imo,women are still so damn narrow minded when it comes to choosing guys that they perceive as worthy,this doesn't help provide me with more of a sense of confidence. If I was one of those really worthy and really normal guys,I would definitely have these special balls,but I am neither of those things. That would make me think that my chances are better. I will take responsibility for things(if necessary),but for most things in my situation? No I will not,when it comes to women.
Yeah that's one way to put it. Intense instant attraction maybe a lil more fitting.
see that's true, thing is I hate breaking things off with people, specially when there really nice lol
any tips for that one?
I might date both...thing is I would actually feel like I'm just dating the girl at work until I get another chance to meet my friends set up...I'm waaay more attracted to the mates girl than the one at work aswell.