Official: Sandman info from trailer thread.

[The_Dark_Knight]

Well I'm not happy about the fact that Sandman killed Uncle Ben but its not killing me. and its NOT going to stop me from likeing it.

remember kids, this is a MOVIE. dont cry. you WILL live. dont get so upset about it, its just a movie.

If you want things to be perfect, go read the comics.

 

[AnyPiKa]

Guys, be optimistic .
The policeman in the trailer said they had new proof or smt like it, so maybe they prove in the end, that Sandman didn't kill him, and Pete realises, he killed the guy for nothing (he wants to kill him because of him uncle, not because he's terrorizing NY). At that point he realizes, that the suit made him kill someone (which he hadn't done yet; GG kills himself and so does Ock).

Just blabbering some jibberish, don't mind me .

Any**

 

[SLYspyder]

man, i'm really impressed with the job thomas haden church did.

the expressions on his face and acting is just great!

i really felt for him when he was changing. they really cast the perfect sandman.

and the effects are way better than the mummy, can't believe anyone thinks otherwise, plus, it's not even done!

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I thought Sam Raimi would be above such outdated cinematic cliches, that EVERY villain needs a personal connection to the hero. Guess I was wrong.

 

[November Rain]

i would like to see how he killed him on screen.

I think they could have gotten spidey's going evil by simply pitting him up against a villain he's physically unable to best, like the scorpion so the symbiote would help him and also bring up how he hates being the small guy who is humiliated, like switching parker's visions of the scorpion to perhap flash thompson or uncle ben's real killer.

it seems an unnecessary need but it won't tarnish the first film in my eyes. The first film does its base well (not perfectly since parker's reasoning for letting the criminal go was not correct) so its not like it was always meant to be, it's just a necessary way to make sandy more appealing i suppose.

 

[Spiderine]

The theme of this whole movie seems to be about REVENGE. Harry wants revenge on peter for killing his father, Peter wants revenge on sandman for killing ben, and Eddie wants revenge for whatever reason.

 

[chesslover]

Who has the last word on the plot lines?

 

[Spider Boy]

I think it would have been a great plot twist if they didnt give it away in the trailer

That's why I think there's more to the story. We're all going bonkers over the "true killer" concept... but I'm sure there's a twist that no one knows about.... so chill guys.

 

[Demonstray]

Okay, how did Sandman get his powers in the comics, and what's that big machine dealy that gives him his powers in the movie?

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Well maybe the guy doesn't die and Peter sees his ways before he ends up killing the guy and who knows if he will become good or not but I find him intresting. Special affects make the Sandman amazing, I can't wait to see the fight between Spidy and Sandman.

 

[christpunchers]

I agree with doc ock on this one. I think its incredibly stupid for them to justfy spiderman's fight against sandman by helping sandman as ben's killer (misunderstanding or not).
Sandman killing uncle ben thing is a shame. Kinda undermines the whole spider-man thing and what a coincidence that his uncle's killer out of the millions of new yorkers is the one guy who becomes a major freak like him and the rest of the freaks he fought. wow.

 

[Zarathustra_9]

Apart from Sandman being the possible killer of Uncle Ben...
His origin gets pretty much revealed in the trailer. As the writing on the fence he climbs while running from the police implies, he hides in a Particle Physics Test Facility and there gets his powers. Does it mean that the huge machine he gets trapped in changes his (sub?)-atomic sturcture in some way?
So what do you think? It seems to be a better explanation than radiation anyway... But I'm not sure about it's plausibility yet (considering the fact I know nothing of particle physics ).
Taking into account that Ock's and GG's origins were pretty plausible for a comic book movie...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Apart from Sandman being the possible killer of Uncle Ben...
His origin gets pretty much revealed in the trailer. As the writing on the fence he climbs while running from the police implies, he hides in a Particle Physics Test Facility and there gets his powers. Does it mean that the huge machine he gets trapped in changes his (sub?)-atomic sturcture in some way?
So what do you think? It seems to be a better explanation than radiation anyway... But I'm not sure about it's plausibility yet (considering the fact I know nothing of particle physics ).
Taking into account that Ock's and GG's origins were pretty plausible for a comic book movie...

i think they when a good way with flint marko trapped in the facility, it might have been a little wierd using the origin completley from the comics, i dont think they revealed too much in the trailer, i love what they showed considering the fact that he didnt go to a beach and they werent testing a nuclear weapon, anyway, sandmans origin seems to have fit the spidey movies, i really thought it was cool when the machine started to spin and sanmans hand turned into sand.

 

[Zarathustra_9]

Thinking about it, there's at least one good thing about the origin. It's cryptic enough to at least seem possible. Besides, considering the fact that it's difficult as hell to come up with a plausible origin for someone such as him... t:

 

[vegeta21]

Doesn´t change the fact that they´re connected and they´re villains. Wolf-man being Jameson´s son is a HUGE coincidence, so is Eddie Brock resenting Peter, so is Doc Ock getting interested in Aunt May. Doesn´t matter if it took a little more time, it´s every bit as coincidental and contrived, if you will.

Eddie Brock resented SPIDER-MAN, not Peter. Plus he was a REPORTER for the DAILY GLOBE, not a photographer for the Bugle. I don't believe he even met Peter until he became Venom .The SYMBIOTE hated Peter, though from what I can understand it was a love/hate felling towards Peter as it was willing to go back to him on a few occasions.

 

[vegeta21]

Guys, be optimistic .
The policeman in the trailer said they had new proof or smt like it, so maybe they prove in the end, that Sandman didn't kill him, and Pete realises, he killed the guy for nothing (he wants to kill him because of him uncle, not because he's terrorizing NY). At that point he realizes, that the suit made him kill someone (which he hadn't done yet; GG kills himself and so does Ock).

Just blabbering some jibberish, don't mind me .

Any**

I REALLY hope Peter doesn't kill anyone, even if it is under the influence of the symbiote. I'd be fine with him ALMOST killing the Sandman, but having him actually kill him would go too far. Peter would never be able to live with taking another persons life. I mean in the comics he wouldn't even allow Carnage to be killed, and I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't think twice about putting an end to a monster like that. But not Peter, even under the influence of the symbiote I can't see him actually intentionally taking a life, even if he thinks it is Ben's killer.

 

[Spade]

I personally think the Sandman doesn't die in the rematch. I'm willing to bet he tries to fight Peter in the construction site where he has the advantage, only to be killed by Venom somehow. It would just be too much of a spoiler to show the title characters dead in the trailers before the movie is even seen. So on that guess I think he survives the "mudification". Harry's the harder of the two to pin down. I severely doubt Raimi would allow Peter to be behind Harry's death, but I'm very certain that if Peter could survive a pumpkin bomb in stride and if Harry has already taken the formula (explaining his superstrength) then Harry probably survives that attack.

My two cents. I just don't believe that the drastic changes people believe are going to occur will occur, like Marko being the triggerman behind the death of Uncle Ben. I think it probably goes down that he was passing by and that the killer did something to implicate him in the process.

 

[DigificWriter]

Not entirely sure why everybody is so up in arms over this whole thing; I personally think it's rather neat, and very 'USM'-esque; it also casts an interesting new light on Peter's entire tenure as Spider-Man thus far (in the films) by twisting everything Peter thought he was fighting for; it also creates a very interesting moral crisis for Peter, especially once the symbiote suit bonds with him, since fighting simply out of a desire for revenge goes against everything his uncle had been trying to tell him.

 

[Wallcrawler383]

I wanna say I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but I'm not. I loved Spider-Man's real origin. I know yeah he was bitten by the spider, got his powers, but he didn't really BECOME Spider-Man until he lost Uncle Ben. The first movie nailed that whole scene down, and I almost lost it cause it was a)very emotional b)almost exactly like it's comic counterpart. Following that, the whole chase to the wharehouse was my most favorite part of the first movie.

Having Sandman be linked as the actual killer doesn't really bode well for me. Sandman has always been a regular old thug in the comics, and while we needed some interesting facts to pull him into the movie as a major villian and a reason for Peter's vengenance (which puts more oomph into the black suit arc), something tells me it could've been done in a better, not messing with classic storyline type stuff.

My major problem here is I love both Spider-Man 1 and 2, and love Raimi for the work he's done, but something tells me he doesn't really care about Spidey because he would not have let this whole new Uncle Ben arc come into play if he really cared about the character.

Yes Im getting all "up in arms." But I love the Spider-Man universe, and while you can toy around with it all you want in the flicks, you can't take something away from a great origin.

Hopefully I can trust Raimi and know they will fix this in the movie and Peter will know that Sandman wasn't involved at all.

Regardless of this, I'll still be waiting for May 4th to come faster and faster. Cause other then this plot point, this movie could possibly be the best of all three.

 

[HCpride]

hey remember that time that raimi was making a spiderman MOVIE and not writing an old comic BOOK
hes doing his own damn story, if you want to see something comic accurate, go read the damn comics

 

[Vulcan]

lol^^^^

 

[DigificWriter]

I wanna say I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but I'm not. I loved Spider-Man's real origin. I know yeah he was bitten by the spider, got his powers, but he didn't really BECOME Spider-Man until he lost Uncle Ben. The first movie nailed that whole scene down, and I almost lost it cause it was a)very emotional b)almost exactly like it's comic counterpart. Following that, the whole chase to the wharehouse was my most favorite part of the first movie.

Having Sandman be linked as the actual killer doesn't really bode well for me. Sandman has always been a regular old thug in the comics, and while we needed some interesting facts to pull him into the movie as a major villian and a reason for Peter's vengenance (which puts more oomph into the black suit arc), something tells me it could've been done in a better, not messing with classic storyline type stuff.

My major problem here is I love both Spider-Man 1 and 2, and love Raimi for the work he's done, but something tells me he doesn't really care about Spidey because he would not have let this whole new Uncle Ben arc come into play if he really cared about the character.

Yes Im getting all "up in arms." But I love the Spider-Man universe, and while you can toy around with it all you want in the flicks, you can't take something away from a great origin.

Hopefully I can trust Raimi and know they will fix this in the movie and Peter will know that Sandman wasn't involved at all.

Regardless of this, I'll still be waiting for May 4th to come faster and faster. Cause other then this plot point, this movie could possibly be the best of all three.

I'm not seeing how this takes away from Spidey's established origins, either in the Movieverse or elsewhere. All I see it doing is adding an interesting twist to what Peter THOUGHT he knew about the events that led to his choice to become the crimefighter he has become. Just as events in the last film led Peter to a crossroads/turning point, so does this twist: the revelation that the man Peter thought killed his uncle actually didn't puts Peter in an interesting position because it forces him to re-affirm his decision to use his powers in the manner he has; add in the symbiote and how it amplifies Peter's desire to hunt down Sandman, and you've got a very interesting moral and psychological crisis for Peter that repeats themes from the first two films without being repetitive.

 

[Eggyman]

Everything will be fine -- go and watch the first two to re-establish your faith. These movies are ace and we as Spidey fans are lucky to have a loyal fan sitting in the director's chair for these films. If Sandman is Ben's killer then so what? If he isn't, whatever. It matters not, this film will be incredible whichever way it really goes . . . although i do think that there will be a twist because of them telling us in the trailer that he is the killer -- there has to be more to it, they wouldn't just give that whole side of the plot away.

 

[Chris Barnes 01]

I agree with Doc Ock and the others, having Sandman as Uncle Ben's killer is heresy to the original comic books! How is Spidey suppossed to believe in great power and responsibility when his whole world is upended? At least in the comics they had a moral lesson from him acting irresponsibly.

Stick a fork in me, I'm done!

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