Official Swamp Thing Thread

[Movies205]

no but I'mg oing go over my grandma's house now and get it(keep all my comics in storage over there, no room over here)

 

[Movies205]

I would actually recommend reading volume 1 again. Just so you can remember what went on before because stuff in volume 2 does reference what happened in volume 1.

P.S. Did you ever see John Constantine's cameo appearance in the first Swamp Thing TPB?

I finished reading the first volume yesterday, and no I didn't see the cameo so I looked it up online and it's cool though if no one said it, it would hardly be concluesive.

 

[John Constantine]

Well it technically does fit in with the storyline that Constantine would show up at that point. Yeah, it could also be just coincidence, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Moore did put him in kind of like as a nod to a future reference.

 

[Movies205]

Well from the site I read, basically the artists said there going put in like every issue just for fun and moore made a character out of him. I find myself not liking issues where Swamp Thing isn't the main focus

 

[John Constantine]

What? Like the Nukeface storyline and that serial killer who remembers all his victims?

 

[Movies205]

Well I've only read Swamp Thing Volume 1 and the first three or so chapters of volume 2, I don't like the issue all that much focusing on solely Woodrue but I like the arc in general, and I don't like the issue focusing soley on Abigail and her husband who's really arcane.

 

[John Constantine]

I thought that was a pretty damn cool story actually. I mean the shock in Abby's face when she realized who her husband really was. Disturbing as hell.

 

[Movies205]

I liked it, I just really want read about swamp thing

 

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but what makes Swamp Thing good as well is the supporting characters. From Abby, to Chester, to even John Constantine. I liked how they always spent a few issues dwelling on these characters as well. It helped to flesh them out a bit.

 

[Movies205]

True I like the Monkey King Arc that was cool

 

[John Constantine]

Yeah, that was a great story. It was also great because it fits into events later on in the second TPB with Abby and Matt.

Man, this is really making me wanna reread all my Swamp Thing issues

 

[Movies205]

Yeah, that was a great story. It was also great because it fits into events later on in the second TPB with Abby and Matt.

Man, this is really making me wanna reread all my Swamp Thing issues

I heard Grant Morrison did a run on Swamp Thing was that any good?

 

[John Constantine]

Actually Morrison only co-wrote a four issue run with Mark Millar. And I thought that four issue run was very good. It began with a very interesting twist. That Alec Holland woke up and it was revealed that all the things that happened with Swamp THing may've been a hallucination. That's all I'll say about that though

 

[Movies205]

Cool, I'll probably finish reading all my Swamp Thing TPBs(Vol 2-5) and by that time I'll probably have won that auction(hopefully) I was telling you about so I'll probably pick up volume 6-7 of Swamp Thing, then take break from the character and start reading Constantine

 

[John Constantine]

Man, DC should reprint Swamp Thing TPBs faster. I think they only release them like once a year. But with Volume 7, it's all part of a bigger storyline. The ending of it would feel rather abrupt. But to be honest, I found Veitch's storyline to be almost on par with Moore's work. Plus Veitch managed to include stories with Arcane in it that didn't involve him coming back to life for the 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th time.

 

[Movies205]

On Comicsomething.com boards vietch posted that he asked DC if he could finish his storyline, he hasn't a gotten a reply back. He is doing the Question for them now

 

[John Constantine]

Yeah, it would be interesting to see Veitch continue his storyline. But the thing is, after Veitch left, they got Doug Wheeler to essentially finish up what Veitch started in the first place, so it would be a tad awkward to include Veitch's original ending to his storyline in a future TPB.

However, the way Wheeler finished up what Veitch did was a bit.....****ty.

 

[Movies205]

Was Wheeler any good?

And I also read that because Veitch quit, Neil Gaiman who was suppose to continue writing after him, decline to do so out of support for VEitch but ended up writing Annual 4 later on

 

[John Constantine]

No. Wheeler's run was absolutely horrible. His stuff could barely be understood at some points. Plus, he did a bit of dialogue with some of the characters that was a mix of French and English. It was good for a bit of authenticity. But seeing like half the book with that dialogue almost drove me nuts.

Yeah, I heard that once Veitch finished up his time-travel storyline (with Swamp THing meeting Jesus), he was then gonna leave the title, and then Neil Gaiman and Jamie Delano were to come on and write alternating stories. That would've been so good

 

[Movies205]

No. Wheeler's run was absolutely horrible. His stuff could barely be understood at some points. Plus, he did a bit of dialogue with some of the characters that was a mix of French and English. It was good for a bit of authenticity. But seeing like half the book with that dialogue almost drove me nuts.

Yeah, I heard that once Veitch finished up his time-travel storyline (with Swamp THing meeting Jesus), he was then gonna leave the title, and then Neil Gaiman and Jamie Delano were to come on and write alternating stories. That would've been so good

DC ****ed that one good But aren't you canadian, don't canadians speak french? Wouldn't it be no problem for you? Gainman should write some Swamp Thing now and save the book from it's misery

 

[John Constantine]

No, we don't all speak French fluently eyes:

And I doubt Gaiman will ever write another issue of Swamp Thing. I mean even with his own creation, Books of Magic, he's only on the book as a "consultant". Which means he probably only gave the basic premise for the current writer and they put his name on the book to sell more copies.

But yeah, if the current Swamp THing series actually gets past issue 20, I'll honestly be surprised.

 

[Movies205]

No, we don't all speak French fluently eyes:

And I doubt Gaiman will ever write another issue of Swamp Thing. I mean even with his own creation, Books of Magic, he's only on the book as a "consultant". Which means he probably only gave the basic premise for the current writer and they put his name on the book to sell more copies.

But yeah, if the current Swamp THing series actually gets past issue 20, I'll honestly be surprised.

It's selling better than Constantine Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore have become too big I want more of their stories but i hear Gaiman is a better novel writer than comic book writer.

 

[John Constantine]

For now. Wait until the novelty of a new Swamp Thing wears off. Couple that with the Constanteen movie coming out and Hellblazer might be selling well in a few months. Plus, to be honest, I love what's going on in Hellblazer more than what's going on in Swamp Thing right now.

 

[Movies205]

Tru but what if DC changes Constantine into Keauno Reeves? It'll start with a hair dye, and then he'll just start changing into Keauno casually, then it'll climb the charts, and then you'll wish it wasn't selling so well

 

[John Constantine]

That's actually what I'm afraid of with Constanteen as well. Say if the movie gets big. Then you have those people that loved the movie going to pick up the comic and say "What the hell? How come the Constantine here is a Brit? Who's blonde? and what's with Chas? He's an old man? And where's the holy shotgun?". Then you might have the DC execs going "Hey, you know what? We can actually sell more copies of Hellblazer if we cancel the current series and make him into what he was like in the movie. And let's make it into a regular DCU title because then he can interact with Superman. Because you know, Superman in the book will sell even more"