Official The Hobbit thread

[Jackasscoley15]

The riddle scene from The Hobbit will also be in very dim light, which can only help.

I'm actually expecting them to play that aspect up to make Gollum a bit more frightening. I really hope they do something similar to the beginning of Fellowship, particularly with the way they made his eyes catch the light and "glow", like in the books.

 

[Solidus]

Yea he was more frightening to me in The Hobbit then he was in LOTR.

Man with this TDKR, and Spider-Man news ramping up it's going to be crazy on the Hype for the next few years.

And to what Octoberist said earlier I do agree that they will probably add a tad more to Bard in The Hobbit, since they are expanding the films themselves to two parts, I think they may add a tad bit more to give the audience more of a connection with him.

But to my original point I am stoked for the riddles in the dark.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

Same here. I can't wait to see peoples faces when they go into the theater expecting some of the cutesy Smeagol-type antics, and they end up getting the scheming, creepy, orc-eating Gollum instead. t:

 

[Doc Ock]

Same here. I can't wait to see peoples faces when they go into the theater expecting some of the cutesy Smeagol-type antics, and they end up getting the scheming, creepy, orc-eating Gollum instead. t:

I haven't read the Hobbit.....and I'm already shocked by those words.

Orc-eating?

 

[Secret Fawful]

The scene with Gollum in the Hobbit is one of the tensest, scariest scenes in books I've read, and I've read quite a few scary books. When he's chasing after Bilbo; I have to stop to catch my breath every time I read that.

 

[Ponyboy]

By the way, those of you who are fans of Christopher Lee... He is indeed returning as Saruman, and he will be traveling to New Zealand, despite earlier reports that he can't travel here.

 

[Octoberist]

How are you benefiting from this, Ponyboy, if you're legit?

 

[Ponyboy]

Hey, I'm just as much as fan as you guys are.

 

[Marx]

I always love when people come onto the boards and claim to be working on the next big movie. Just sayin...

 

[Octoberist]

You're telling me, Marx. And how is having the time to be here anyway? The movie starts in a few weeks. I would think right now it's the most stressful point in pre-production. No time for the Hype!

 

[Marx]

The scene with Gollum in the Hobbit is one of the tensest, scariest scenes in books I've read, and I've read quite a few scary books. When he's chasing after Bilbo; I have to stop to catch my breath every time I read that.

I am very much looking forward to that.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, when Tolkien wrote it, I'm sure he never thought of Gollum's backstory (YET) so Gollum came off as a total creep!

 

[Ponyboy]

I just prefer squashing rumours that's all. Everyone has to be specifically cautious with what is said. Christopher Lee's looking for a PA if anyone wants to come to NZ.

 

[Ponyboy]

You're telling me, Marx. And how is having the time to be here anyway? The movie starts in a few weeks. I would think right now it's the most stressful point in pre-production. No time for the Hype!

Unlike America, we have 24x7 access to the web while at work, generally.

 

[Octoberist]

hmmmm........hmmmmmm.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Yeah, when Tolkien wrote it, I'm sure he never thought of Gollum's backstory (YET) so Gollum came off as a total creep!

Exactly. This is part of why I love The Hobbit more than LOTR. Gollum only showed part of his true colors in LOTR, but he came off as a complete wimp. He was very tame. You really had to read between the lines more to see what he really was, and I don't think until the very end did we see the true Gollum come out. In The Hobbit he doesn't hide anything and he has no conflict, and he's one of the most terrifying monsters in fiction history for it. Sure, LOTR made him a more relatable character, and I like that Gollum as well, but the best Gollum for me is the terrifying one who just wants to feast on your flesh.

 

[Marx]

Yeah, when Tolkien wrote it, I'm sure he never thought of Gollum's backstory (YET) so Gollum came off as a total creep!

Exactly. This is part of why I love The Hobbit more than LOTR. Gollum only showed part of his true colors in LOTR, but he came off as a complete wimp. He was very tame. You really had to read between the lines more to see what he really was, and I don't think until the very end did we see the true Gollum come out. In The Hobbit he doesn't hide anything and he has no conflict, and he's one of the most terrifying monsters in fiction history for it. Sure, LOTR made him a more relatable character, and I like that Gollum as well, but the best Gollum for me is the terrifying one who just wants to feast on your flesh.

It's just going to be very interesting to see HOBBIT Gollum.

 

[Octoberist]

I can't wait for Asylum's version, titled.."The Herbert". :0

 

[Octoberist]

It's just going to be very interesting to see HOBBIT Gollum.

Yeah, he wrote him as a straight up monster who would eat Hobbits and Orcs. This is before he was retroactively was a Hobbit in 'Lord of the Rings'.

 

[Marx]

Yeah, he wrote him as a straight up monster who would eat Hobbits and Orcs. This is before he was retroactively was a Hobbit in 'Lord of the Rings'.

I still expect to see Gollum like we've never seen him before. There's only so many liberties that you can take with that particular scene. Jackson was pretty darn faithful to the books overall.

 

[Solidus]

I can't remember any details of it in the book or the Similarion but I always (in my imagination) rationalized Gollum being more "evil" in The Hobbit because he had been with the ring for so long. But as he was away from it for almost 7 decades the evil started to wear off (not all the way of course) and he was more "Smeagol" then he was Gollum.

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah, he wrote him as a straight up monster who would eat Hobbits and Orcs. This is before he was retroactively was a Hobbit in 'Lord of the Rings'.

I actually always got the feeling that the Gollum from the Hobbit was still more sane than how we see him in LOTR.

He even shows semblances of real intelligence with the riddles he makes Bilbo go through.

While he's always been a conniving little thing he omitted a more mannered sense of terror. Especially with his display of intelligence on how he was planning to trick/stall Bilbo with the riddles.

He was terrifying not because of his insanity (which hadn't fully form quite yet in the Hobbit) which LOTR relied on and turned into comic relief at times. Not a problem I have but I hope Jackson makes this distinction between the time periods.

 

[Marx]

I actually always got the feeling that the Gollum from the Hobbit was still more sane than how we see him in LOTR.

He even shows semblances of real intelligence with the riddles he makes Bilbo go through.

While he's always been a conniving little thing he omitted a more mannered sense of terror. Especially with his display of intelligence on how he was planning to trick/stall Bilbo with the riddles.

He was terrifying not because of his insanity (which hadn't fully form quite yet in the Hobbit) which LOTR relied on and turned into comic relief at times. Not a problem I have but I hope Jackson makes this distinction between the time periods.

I just about fell out of my chair at the theater the very first time I saw Gollum argue with himself.

That being said, HOBBIT Gollum was more terrifying because he was fully consumed by Gollum. There was no split personality that I remember. At that point, he was just a maniac.

 

[terry78]

Also, hadn't he been supposedly tortured in Mordor for a while after Hobbit? Probably took a toll on him.

 

[Symbiotic]

The Digital Bits is reporting that sources say the Blu-rays for the Rings trilogy extended editions are on their way THIS year. No 2012/2013 wait.