The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[Sentinel X]

New York centric? Hm...

Hydro-Man? (central water supply?)
Electro? (central electricity?)
Molten Man? (central heating?)
Jameson? (central air?)

hmmmm...you have a good point. Based on the hint I would say Electro. New York city is completely dependent on electricity. Remember a few years back when NYC had that blackout...it was a big deal even though it lasted only a couple of hours.

 

[Venom 1988]

face it dude Kraven's lame. i rather have Mysterio onboard Spidey 4 than Kraven. i just don't see what's so exciting about Kraven.

:facepalm
I feel like I'm arguing with a 12 year old. I'm not going to face nothing from someone who can't even get a straight argument. This is you "Kraven is lame dude...cuz he uh he looks lame! Yea and uh....yea hes like yea lame!"
You don't see what is exciting about Kraven? Go read Kraven's Last Hunt, one of the best Spider-Man stories ever.

and i'm not saying the general audience is a bunch of brainless morons (even though a lot of teens get high to go see movies like this for the visuals) but u wanna see fight scenes grow into more exciting battles from the previous movies. u can almost see Electro exploding on the scene with great electric visual effects and if they go the ultimate comic route Maxwell could be one of Parkers colleagues in college w/a great story to tell.Lizard is Dr. Connors so we know how easily he could be placed into it.

I don't know what ultimate comics you've been reading, but Ultimate Electro is not a colleague of Peter.

but its gonna be difficult to just throw Kraven in there. one he's too lame of a character to get great visuals for the fight scenes.

lol wait wait, this is one of your reasonings? Kraven is superhuman, so he can go toe toe with Spider-Man in a physical fight. He has enhanced sight, smell, and hearing, so once he fights Spider-Man, he can track him down anywhere, which can be troubles for Peter and his friends. Not only added with his experienced hunting skills, he has a vast array of weaponry at his disposal and can set up a multitude of traps for Spidey. Hmm from stating all that, I can imagine a ton of interesting and exciting fight sequences. Hmm is your imagination that lacking?

two Sam Raimi always finds a way to tie the villain into Peter's life. i mean what's gonna be the way Kraven gets tied into Peter's life? one day Peter decided to go to the jungle to outswing Tarzan and Kraven was watching with pure envy?? come on dude

Don't be an idiot. After SM3, if Raimi is smart he'll do away with making connections with every villain, unless they already have one pre-established in the comics (i.e. Lizard). Therefore this point is null.

 

[HughJackFan420]

i can see Kraven mabye being Kingpin's errand boy since he has enhanced senses all that great stuff and we've never seen a character like him before (wolverine?? maybe??)
but as a main villain nah...sorry and i'm not saying he's lame just for the heck of it. he just doesn't fill the shoes of the villains we've already seen and those we haven't. that's my argument.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

None of the villains left is able to carry a film on his own. So why not use Kraven as a second villain next to the Lizard?

 

[Venom 1988]

i can see Kraven mabye being Kingpin's errand boy since he has enhanced senses all that great stuff and we've never seen a character like him before (wolverine?? maybe??)
but as a main villain nah...sorry and i'm not saying he's lame just for the heck of it. he just doesn't fill the shoes of the villains we've already seen and those we haven't. that's my argument.

Yea its the argument of 8 year old I know. Oh and guess what? None of thee villains left can fill the shoes of the villains we've seen. From here on in, its going to be multiple villains and nowhere did I say Kraven was going to be or should be the main villain.

 

[Spiderine]

There defintely won't be any more stand alone villains in this current francise. Expect at least 2 from now on.

 

[HughJackFan420]

Yea its the argument of 8 year old I know. Oh and guess what? None of thee villains left can fill the shoes of the villains we've seen. From here on in, its going to be multiple villains and nowhere did I say Kraven was going to be or should be the main villain.

Kingpin, Morbius, Electro, Tombstone good stand alone villains....Kraven is more like a henchman.

 

[American_Hobo]

Kingpin, Morbius, Electro, Tombstone good stand alone villains....Kraven is more like a henchman.

In my opinion,only Electro from the list has potential to be a stand alone villain.
No way Kingpin, Tombstone can carry their own film. (Morbius doesnt count because he should not be in the movie in the first place)

 

[Spiderine]

:facepalm
I feel like I'm arguing with a 12 year old. I'm not going to face nothing from someone who can't even get a straight argument. This is you "Kraven is lame dude...cuz he uh he looks lame! Yea and uh....yea hes like yea lame!"
You don't see what is exciting about Kraven? Go read Kraven's Last Hunt, one of the best Spider-Man stories ever.

I don't know what ultimate comics you've been reading, but Ultimate Electro is not a colleague of Peter.

lol wait wait, this is one of your reasonings? Kraven is superhuman, so he can go toe toe with Spider-Man in a physical fight. He has enhanced sight, smell, and hearing, so once he fights Spider-Man, he can track him down anywhere, which can be troubles for Peter and his friends. Not only added with his experienced hunting skills, he has a vast array of weaponry at his disposal and can set up a multitude of traps for Spidey. Hmm from stating all that, I can imagine a ton of interesting and exciting fight sequences. Hmm is your imagination that lacking?

Well said. Some people just want to throw villains in for the hell of it not thinking at all how they would fit into the story which is the most important aspect of the movie. Kraven is a threat to Spiderman as well as Dr Connors ( Lizard) and creates a niussance which Spidey has to deal with. Let the Lizard provide the fantastic battle scenes while allowing Kraven to be a fantastic secondary villain.

 

[Venom 1988]

Kingpin, Morbius, Electro, Tombstone good stand alone villains....Kraven is more like a henchman.

I am at a loss of words. Morbius is a stand alone villain and Kraven is a henchmen? I don't know how much more I can drill this through your thick ass head, so all I'm gonna say is read Kraven's Last. You'll be doing that brain of yours a favor. As for your other guys, Kingpin (who can't even be used) and Tombstone, they still need their super-villain henchmen. Even Electro, who is one of my favorites, probably can't be done by himself.

 

[The Joker]

Kingpin, Morbius, Electro, Tombstone good stand alone villains....Kraven is more like a henchman.

Apart from working for Doc Ock once in the Sinister Six, who has Kraven been a henchman for?

 

[Spiderine]

NO RESURRECTIONS.

Please. It's bad enough when they bring people back from the dead in the comics. Lets not do it in the films. Hell, if you bring him back from the dead you might as well shack him up with Gwen Stacy and then have Mephisto erase the evidence that Peter Parker is Spider-Man...

Thank you. Let the dead remain there.

 

[afrayedknot]

I don't really have a strong opinion on which villain should appear, but I do have a suggestion as to how Kraven might appear in the movie.

Let's just say the Lizard is the villain. Kraven could show up to hunt the Lizard. Spider-Man, knowing the Lizard is Dr. Connors, tries to safely capture him while thwarting Kraven.

Just a suggestion . . .

 

[Spiderine]

I don't really have a strong opinion on which villain should appear, but I do have a suggestion as to how Kraven might appear in the movie.

Let's just say the Lizard is the villain. Kraven could show up to hunt the Lizard. Spider-Man, knowing the Lizard is Dr. Connors, tries to safely capture him while thwarting Kraven.

Just a suggestion . . .

Yes, ideally this is close to how I would like to see it played out. it puts Spiderman in a difficult position of trying to help his friend/mentor from harm and finding a cure at the same time Spiderman has to protect himself from this savage beast who is out of control. And then there is Kraven who is out to kill/capture the beast. He has to thwart Kraven as well as battle the beast he has sworn to protect. It is an excellent story IMO if written well.

 

[HughJackFan420]

I don't really have a strong opinion on which villain should appear, but I do have a suggestion as to how Kraven might appear in the movie.

Let's just say the Lizard is the villain. Kraven could show up to hunt the Lizard. Spider-Man, knowing the Lizard is Dr. Connors, tries to safely capture him while thwarting Kraven.

Just a suggestion . . .

which is the only way I can see Kraven in a Spidey flick. other than that he's not strong enough of a character to be either a standalone villain or visually impressive at that.

 

[HughJackFan420]

Yes, ideally this is close to how I would like to see it played out. it puts Spiderman in a difficult position of trying to help his friend/mentor from harm and finding a cure at the same time Spiderman has to protect himself from this savage beast who is out of control. And then there is Kraven who is out to kill/capture the beast. He has to thwart Kraven as well as battle the beast he has sworn to protect. It is an excellent story IMO if written well.

i agree completely this is what i've pictured a long time ago since we already have Dr. Connors in the previous Spidey flicks bring him in for the 4th installment as the Lizard and Kravens only involvement
in a Spidey flick should be something of this nature. i don't agree w/having Kraven in a movie b/c he's really LAME (i do it b/c i love you Venom1988 t and I would rather have Electro as a standalone villain with a possible cliffhanger of either bringing back an old villain or introducing a new one for Spider-Man 4

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Hmmm... i find Kraven a vital character not to be in the movie... Im not a fan of Kraven, i am a fan of having the right characters in the right story... Personally i think there is a benifit of having Kraven.

More and more are we pointing to the Lizard being in this movie, especially Raimi's latest statement about being a big part of new york, well one of the biggest parts there could be is the underground sewers. Plus we know that during production of spiderman 2 Lizard was briefly going to cameo in the sewer. But it never happend...

But the thing is with Spiderman, he just lost a friend who became a villian. He seems to respect Dr.Conners and knowing he is the Lizard is really going to test his strengths, but look at it this way, a Giant human lizard runing around the sewers, people want pictures and rewards are out for his capture i would imagin, mostly generated by the daily bugle... so Kraven would naturally fit into this. I kind of see the tag line for spiderman 4 as The Hunt is On!

But here is the benifit of having Kraven. im not incrediable smart on this but doesnt Kraven work for Cameolon? Or used to, or something there, there is a connection. The way i see it is that Kraven could be a way to bring in the cameolon, and possibly with cameolon Electro... it would make one hell of a set up for spiderman 5

 

[Venom 1988]

. Plus we know that during production of spiderman 2 Lizard was briefly going to cameo in the sewer. But it never happend...

It wasn't just a cameo, he was going to be a main villain. But that subplot got written out early on in the writing stages.

But here is the benifit of having Kraven. im not incrediable smart on this but doesnt Kraven work for Cameolon? Or used to, or something there, there is a connection.

They are half-brothers and yes he did a job for Chameleon in Kraven's first story.

 

[ERVysther]

Sorry gang, but...Kraven...?

I was really looking forward to the rumored Lizard/Morbius idea, to be truthful.

I've always loathed Kraven and did backflips when they offed him. Very weak character...*so* damn boring...and then put him in a movie?

Raimi mutilated both Sandman and Venom, although he got his arm twisted on what to do with SP3...sorry, that sloppy mess that was painful to watch...I'm hoping whomever stuck their nose in butts out this time.

I tend to agree witht he majority here, I think it'll more than likely be Electro, though the Vulture, Scorpion or Mysterio are likely candidates as well, I think.

 

[American_Hobo]

Well it looks like many people dont like to see Kraven.
I'm not rooting for Kraven, I'm ok with Kraven as long as there are two villains in this movie.

 

[co2]

All of this anit-sympathetic villain talk is interesting. It's not like we haven't had that already. Both Norman Osborn and Eddie Brock were kind of potrayed as jerks before they ever became official Spidey villains. Brock was a straight up *****e bag. He was praying to have Peter killed!

 

[SymbioticToxin]

hmmmm...you have a good point. Based on the hint I would say Electro. New York city is completely dependent on electricity. Remember a few years back when NYC had that blackout...it was a big deal even though it lasted only a couple of hours.

I remember hearing about that. I guess then Electro would be alright for the movies. They can have him try to make another blackout or something.

 

[Son Of Logan]

I actually wrote a story outline for S3 that was Lizard and Kraven as the villains and much like the ideas we're discussing now for using them.

When I heard Raimi's statement I immediately thought New York sewers = Lizard or New York crime = the Kingpin. I'm really thinking it's gonna be Lizard. But man would I love to see them get the rights to Kingpin so Michael Clarke Duncan can go heads up with Spidey. t:

 

[Mutagen]

I'm not a fan of Kraven, but I won't be angry if they include him. Every time I see him animated, I am disappointed, so I don’t have high expectations for a full movie with his involvement anyway.

I would love to see Scorpion, but I can see the Lizard as an adequate replacement.

 

[co2]

There defintely won't be any more stand alone villains in this current francise. Expect at least 2 from now on.

Agreed,

As for the villains...Lizard and Kraven....It writes itself.
There is automatically a good story there begging to be told.