The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[sabetoonth]

The idea of Kraven and The Lizard (and Kraven burying Spidey alive to get Lizard alone) is good. I was originally against The Lizard as a villain idea, but with Kraven and an appropriate actor could be fantastic. I'd love a cameo though, Shocker as a bank robber or Mysterio doing something with his illusions, but quickly apprehended (with broken fishbowl, showing it to be Bruce Campbell unable to keep a steady job ) or something similar.

And as for Raimi wishing to redeem himself of sorts for Spidey 3, I'd love something like, at the end of 4 having the symbiote appear beside a jail, and it starts forming a body and we hear screams as both Venom (appearing much bigger, built, more demon like, long tongue, striking distorted eyes) and Brock (His face appearing once or twice) forms from it, talking as both the Symbiote and himself (using "we" a lot) and at one point in the reform, the symbiote bulges and cracks and splits and a piece enters a crack the building and latches onto Kletus Kassady, perhaps oozing into a self inflicted wound maybe and forming Carnage. I hope Raimi could make 5 a horro like movie with a serial killing Carnage on the loose getting away with as much as possible in terms of adult themes. (I'd love Robert Knepper in the Kassady role. I can picture it already)


Sorry about the lengthy post. And I understand people being against any resurrections or how the symbiote reforming or saving Brock is out of canon or so, but I'd accept this and would make me excited for a return of the Symbiotes.

your ressurection is different and i like it, the symbiote presserved enough of brocks dna to reconstruct him or something, and as the being is more symbiote than brock, as brock is still reforming, is more monstrous

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Wait a minute...

Didin't I wrote something similiar on IMDb?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0948470/board/flat/136613089?d=137170612#137170612

Oh yes I sure did!

busted...

and guess who it is?? deadpool09 aka garnettzack from the spidey3 boards!

 

[rcazzy]

your ressurection is different and i like it, the symbiote presserved enough of brocks dna to reconstruct him or something, and as the being is more symbiote than brock, as brock is still reforming, is more monstrous

Exactly as I thought it man. It would give good reason to make the character much darker and willing to do pretty much anything, as well as allowing for the bigger size. And in regards to Carnage, if it had the symbiote fuse with his blood and body (using some good visual techniques), I think it would be good reasoning to why it's red too. The details are important and would make it easier to get.

And Scott Adkins in the pic on the last page seems almost perfect for Kraven. Nott too sure how good of an actor he is, but if hes not up to scratch, Josh Brolin is definitely a goal for the filmmakers to get.

And why didn't this happen!!
I recall seeing this before SM3 and was pretty excited by it!

 

[GoldGoblin]

The only one I see working is Shocker. People would be confused on Rhino & Hydro Man (how'd they get their powers & for Rhino why is he still in the suit) & Carnage needs more plot.

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Yeah those other villains would be kind of confusing to viewers I guess.

Spidey facing Shocker in the beginning of the movie,then takes him out and Shocker goes to jail,then we see Shocker again at the final battle in the prison when Kraven releases all of the prisoners to keep spidey busy while he kills the Lizard.

But Carnage wouldn't need more plot really.Just take 5 minutes in the middle of the movie to show spidey take out a regular thug who is Cletus Kassidy who is a major psycho and Cletus is taken to prison.

Then near the end of the movie show how Dr.Connors is with Peter as they are studying the sample symbiote that Connors got in SM3 when Kraven shows up.

Have Peter fight off Kraven trying to protect Dr.Connors from him.Have Dr.Connors put the vial of the symbiote into the pocket of his lab coat while he tries to make a run for it.

Then have Dr.Connors transform into the Lizard.Where the fight takes place from the college,to the sewers,then to the prison where the Lizard exits the manhole.

And during the three way battle between the Lizard,Kraven,and spidey,the vial falls out of the pocket of the Lizard's lab coat and we see the symbiote crawl to Cletus Kassidy.

Maybe Carnage and the Shocker has a little fight with spidey before they decide to escape with the chance that they were given,and spidey quickly webs up all the other prisoners and returns to the Lizard/Kraven fight.

 

[rcazzy]

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Yeah those other villains would be kind of confusing to viewers I guess.

Spidey facing Shocker in the beginning of the movie,then takes him out and Shocker goes to jail,then we see Shocker again at the final battle in the prison when Kraven releases all of the prisoners to keep spidey busy while he kills the Lizard.

But Carnage wouldn't need more plot really.Just take 5 minutes in the middle of the movie to show spidey take out a regular thug who is Cletus Kassidy who is a major psycho and Cletus is taken to prison.

Then near the end of the movie show how Dr.Connors is with Peter as they are studying the sample symbiote that Connors got in SM3 when Kraven shows up.

Have Peter fight off Kraven trying to protect Dr.Connors from him.Have Dr.Connors put the vial of the symbiote into the pocket of his lab coat while he tries to make a run for it.

Then have Dr.Connors transform into the Lizard.Where the fight takes place from the college,to the sewers,then to the prison where the Lizard exits the manhole.

And during the three way battle between the Lizard,Kraven,and spidey,the vial falls out of the pocket of the Lizard's lab coat and we see the symbiote crawl to Cletus Kassidy.

Maybe Carnage and the Shocker has a little fight with spidey before they decide to escape with the chance that they were given,and spidey quickly webs up all the other prisoners and returns to the Lizard/Kraven fight.

Prison release would be a bit of a stretch for even Kraven to do. Hunting the Lizard, but releasing killers and rapists is a bit off. A Shocker scene would be good, just a simple robbery or something like that. No need for overblown scenes and a team up of Shocker and Carnage wouldn't be great I don't think at all.

The idea of Connors studying the symbiote could tie in well with my idea for the seemingly destroyed Brock symbiote to reform, holding enough DNA to rebuild Eddie's human body (as Connors could find out it could, using it to regrow an arm perhaps). I'd have it so Connors mentions it on a recording, the movie passes by with Kraven and Lizard etc., while during we get reports on radio and TV of serial killer Kletus Kassady caught, being held for questioning in a cell. And at the end of the film, in a lane by the station Kassady is being held, the symbiote rebuilds Brock and so on. (read my post above for more details)

 

[paulbalarsky]

i think it will have carnage, lizard and venom's return.
rhino or electro would be good too

 

[GuestStar2004]

ok i think it will be all the villains from the previous movies

but the main villain will be mysterio

plus i think a few other villains might be added as a hint to the sinister 6

its perfect way of doing it, as most of the villains have been killed off, raimi likes to bring back actors, its good emotional impact, and its a nice suprise for the fans

simple as

 

[BatFan88]

I hope Mysterio and Cameleon will be the next villians.

 

[Vile]

Please...no Kraven.

 

[Dog Brother #1]

I really hope that it is Kraven. Done right, the fight scenes would be awesome. Plus the a storyline with him & Lizard would actually make sense, and add geater conflict as Peter would have to stop both villains while preventing them from killing each other.

 

[Dark Victory]

Please...no Kraven.

Same. I'd rather see Shocker, Electro, or the Lizard. Hell, I'd even rather see Hammerhead.

 

[Spiderine]

I really hope that it is Kraven. Done right, the fight scenes would be awesome. Plus the a storyline with him & Lizard would actually make sense, and add geater conflict as Peter would have to stop both villains while preventing them from killing each other.

Great combination of villains that poses much conflict for the hero. Would make a fine story.

 

[The Joker]

No Kraven.

A jungle man in leopard skin, chasing Spidey with blow darts and spears doesn't exactly wow me with excitement.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Kraven in animal skins would look kinda stupid on screen.They should make Kraven a female villain,because a female would look way better in animal skins than a guy would,plus it would be something fresh to see a female villain.

 

[Spiderine]

Kraven in animal skins would look kinda stupid on screen.They should make Kraven a female villain,because a female would look way better in animal skins than a guy would,plus it would be something fresh to see a female villain.

Kravena the hunter....no thanks. Keep him male.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Kravena the hunter....no thanks. Keep him male.

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What's so special in keeping him male,his character may not work in the movie if he is a male.

 

[Spiderine]

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What's so special in keeping him male,his character may not work in the movie if he is a male.

What would be the point of making such a change to his character like making him female. It's just unnecessary if you ask me. If that's the case why not just use Calypso.

 

[GoldGoblin]

What would be the point of making such a change to his character like making him female. It's just unnecessary if you ask me. If that's the case why not just use Calypso.

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Because by making him female,it would:
1.Give viers something fresh,a female villain.
2.And she would look alot better in animal skins.

 

[Spiderine]

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Because by making him female,it would:
1.Give viers something fresh,a female villain.
2.And she would look alot better in animal skins.

Okay, sounds like Calypso. Use his powers and skills for her. Now wouldn't that be the same thing.

 

[Dog Brother #1]

I like the big game hunter aspect of Kraven. I don't necessarily want him running around in loin clothes or tiger skin pants. more khaki and leather earth tones. and to change him into a woman? That's exactly the kind of pointless changes that ruin comic book adaptations.

 

[Frodo]

Hmmm, while I like the idea of a hot russian woman running around in tights :P, I'd have to say no . However the idea of a female villian isn't a bad one and would be a fresh approach.

 

[American_Hobo]

Kravena.....LOL.

Anyway, I'm ok with Kraven as long as there's another main villain.

 

[Frodo]

Kravena.....LOL.

Played by........Olga Kurylenko. Lol. I think we should just start another thread.

 

[BxB402]

I say if they used Venom again and went on to carnage gradually...they lay off it aside from backround in this one.....and use the classic "eddie brock didn't die...he got blown clear by the explosion, you just didn't see it." Put him in jail, have spidey take down Kletus in the early/ middle parts of the film or something...and have the peice of symbiote connors was given escape(possibly geting let loose when connors goes lizard and tears his lab apart) and break eddie out....they can end it with venom breaking out and a hint to carnage. Make spidey and Venom have to team up in 5 to take down carnage, build on the more humane sides of venom, ect ect.

in 4 they def need to bring out Lizard and maybe shocker or mysterio or Kraven or something...throw Rhino in there as a quick fight and capture early on, maybe coinciding with spidey doing his thing while they set up other stuff(kletus capture included).

Have the papajohns pizza dude(lol, j/k) just in there as a prisoner cameo..maybe interaction with brock or something.

It could work.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

I say if they used Venom again..

Have the papajohns pizza dude(lol, j/k) just in there as a prisoner cameo..maybe interaction with brock or something.

It could work.

1. wont happen.
2. peter killed him, remember?