The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[Spider-Vader]

Mysterio would be pretty cool too. I don't want to see Ock back, he had his time now it's time for someone new. Plus it would of made his redemption pointless.

 

[Artistsean]

I like Mysterio for one of the movies too, I have an idea for what his story could deal with.

I want other villains to get their chance too, villains like Kraven, the Lizard, Electro, and Mysterio, villains who would be really cool to see on the big screen.
But for the sixth film I want the Sinister Six, and I have heard several people say not without Doc Ock.
So just say he didn't die, show him sinking in the water (with his eyes open) like he was dead, then his arms drag him out and maybe after laying still for a few minutes he jerks back to life. (like the cameras stopped filming him too soon, while Peter and MJ swung away this is what happened to Doc Ock.)
It sort of would defeat the redemption, but in the comics Ock was never a redeemable guy really. Maybe this would show the death of the redeemable Doc Ock and the birth of the psycho Doc Ock. Maybe it can even be reasoned out that the time his body was officially dead was just long enough to cause some mental deterioration.
(I am just saying the Sinister Six would be AWESOME in the 6th Spider-Man film, I hear they are doing 4 and 5. The Sinister Six would also make a great finally. And this could be how he returns without retconning or anything.)

So we get Doc Ock leading the Sinister Six, which could include villains from 4 and 5 plus some new ones like the Rhino.

 

[Metal Spidey]

I know how Doc Ock can return to the films without it being too convoluted.
He didn't actually die.

He sank to the bottom, maybe died for a few minutes, but his arms pulled him out.

He could even put together the Sinister Six for the sixth film. That would be awesome!

All very good but he also turned good at the end. You'll have to come up with a good reason why he'd turn bad again.

 

[Artistsean]

perhaps some mental deterioration from lack of oxygen (from being dead in the water for a few minutes longer than a person can take, I think in the comics his mind was damaged by the radiation too.)
perhaps he is mad, blames, Spider-Man for leaving him for dead,
perhaps his AI mechanical arms take more control over his mind,
Perhaps he has some memory loss as well, and doesn't remember redeeming himself and saving the day.

maybe all of them,
He was officially dead (in the water without oxygen too long) his mind deteriorated (got damaged some) enough to cause him to become more angry, aggressive, erratic. He also has some memory loss, not remembering how he saved the day or find out who Spider-Man really was.
He blames Spider-Man for leaving him, causing his mental state.
But not only that, now the super intelligent mechanical arms have slightly more control over him as well.

He got out of the water after Spider-Man and MJ had left. He was alive during Spider-Man 3, watching and planning. He puts together the Sinister Six as his ultimate plan to destroy Spider-Man.


of coarse they studio probably wont do exactly all these ideas, but his still being alive, and why he is bad again can be easily explained I think. And It would be cool to have him return and lead the Sinister Six in the 6th and possibly final Spider-Man film.

It would just make a great finally I think.

 

[GoldGoblin]

^
That is a good idea on how he could be evil.

 

[thorstone]

 

[Metal Spidey]

perhaps some mental deterioration from lack of oxygen (from being dead in the water for a few minutes longer than a person can take, I think in the comics his mind was damaged by the radiation too.)
perhaps he is mad, blames, Spider-Man for leaving him for dead,
perhaps his AI mechanical arms take more control over his mind,
Perhaps he has some memory loss as well, and doesn't remember redeeming himself and saving the day.

maybe all of them,
He was officially dead (in the water without oxygen too long) his mind deteriorated (got damaged some) enough to cause him to become more angry, aggressive, erratic. He also has some memory loss, not remembering how he saved the day or find out who Spider-Man really was.
He blames Spider-Man for leaving him, causing his mental state.
But not only that, now the super intelligent mechanical arms have slightly more control over him as well.

He got out of the water after Spider-Man and MJ had left. He was alive during Spider-Man 3, watching and planning. He puts together the Sinister Six as his ultimate plan to destroy Spider-Man.


of coarse they studio probably wont do exactly all these ideas, but his still being alive, and why he is bad again can be easily explained I think. And It would be cool to have him return and lead the Sinister Six in the 6th and possibly final Spider-Man film.

It would just make a great finally I think.

I like the leaving him for dead scenario. It's crossed my mind a few times. Sinister Six for part 6 would be cool but do you think the franchise will make it that far?

 

[Artistsean]

I hear they are filming part 4 and 5 simultaneously. Like Lord of the Rings.
Why stop there? Why not make part 6, and include the Sinister Six?
Spider-Man has trouble dealing with one bad guy at a time, even in the comics, so how would he handle six at once? It would not only be a great finally, but could include some fan favorites that might not make it otherwise. Plus, if Tobey and the rest retire from the Spider-Man universe after this film, it would be a major send off.

movie Mysterio's costume:
I have an idea how to explain, in the movie, Mysterio's odd costume.
May contain spoilers about Mysterio

In the comic he tells how he disguised himself as Spider-Man, creating devices to make him look like the real Spider-Man and give him Spidey's powers.
But once he had framed Spider-Man he decided to create a superhero persona to swoop in, stop Spider-Man and save the day.
He designs his costume sort of mimicking Spider-Man's.
Everything Spider-Man can do he can do too, artificially.
His bubble dome head is based on Spider-Man's one way mirrored eyelets. His smoke gloves are based on Spidey's web shooters (in the movie it would be more like he invented an artificial way to do what Peter can do naturally).
Peter's natural web shooters:

Beck's artificial web shooters, later redesigned for his Mysterio costume:

His checkered costume could be based on Spider-Man's design too.

What if Mysterio's costume was made like Spider-Man's for the movie, the raised web design would just be made black but still raised and made more like checked lines.
Maybe if someone could photoshop a Spider-Man movie costume (making the red greed, and darkening the spider-web design.)

Anyway, his outlandish costume would be because he was just trying to upstage Spider-Man

 

[Mutagen]

Seriously though, he's the F4's villain and should stay that way, imo, the only other works I would be happy to see him in is the Avengers or a Secret Wars kinda thing, which I don't see happening

I hear they are filming part 4 and 5 simultaneously. Like Lord of the Rings.
Why stop there? Why not make part 6, and include the Sinister Six?
Spider-Man has trouble dealing with one bad guy at a time, even in the comics, so how would he handle six at once? It would not only be a great finally, but could include some fan favorites that might not make it otherwise. Plus, if Tobey and the rest retire from the Spider-Man universe after this film, it would be a major send off.

movie Mysterio's costume:
I have an idea how to explain, in the movie, Mysterio's odd costume.
May contain spoilers about Mysterio

In the comic he tells how he disguised himself as Spider-Man, creating devices to make him look like the real Spider-Man and give him Spidey's powers.
But once he had framed Spider-Man he decided to create a superhero persona to swoop in, stop Spider-Man and save the day.
He designs his costume sort of mimicking Spider-Man's.
Everything Spider-Man can do he can do too, artificially.
His bubble dome head is based on Spider-Man's one way mirrored eyelets. His smoke gloves are based on Spidey's web shooters (in the movie it would be more like he invented an artificial way to do what Peter can do naturally).

His checkered costume could be based on Spider-Man's design too.

What if Mysterio's costume was made like Spider-Man's for the movie, the raised web design would just be made black but still raised and made more like checked lines.
Maybe if someone could photoshop a Spider-Man movie costume (making the red greed, and darkening the spider-web design.)

Anyway, his outlandish costume would be because he was just trying to upstage Spider-Man

I never knew Mysterio was this obsessive, it would be rather interesting to have him as this villain who plans seem unbeatable, but Spidey manages to beat him anyway! I like that idea, just not the Sinister Six one...

 

[chiefchirpa]

Cast Bruce Campbell as Quentin Beck.

Then we wouldn't care if Mysterio wears an inverted glowing fishbowl or not.

 

[Superhero 101]

The Next Villain for the Next film wil be.....Uncle Ben's Fake Killer!!!!

 

[Artistsean]

I never knew Mysterio was this obsessive, it would be rather interesting to have him as this villain who plans seem unbeatable, but Spidey manages to beat him anyway! I like that idea, just not the Sinister Six one...

He would be a really interesting character too, I think.
He would not only be obsessed with Spider-Man but also sort of the stereotypical villain, having to reveal his plot to Spider-Man. Not only because he is sure he will win but because he also spent so much time on his plans and costume that someone has to know.
He wants the credit. (Did anyone see him on the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon?)
In the cartoon, which I liked, he also acted more like Mysterio and all his crimes where performances. And he was not only an FX guy but also a brilliantly trained actor. Also has a big ego (in the cartoon he couldn't believe Spider-Man didn't remember him). That could be a fun aspect of his character too for the movie.

His outlandish costume is also part of his misdirection, while you are gawking at his getup you aren't noticing the minor flaws in his illusions.
Plus his costume's elaborateness gives him room to hide his tech and weapons.

He would be a fun villain I think, and help show the difference between Spider-Man's world and Batman's. I think Spider-Man's world should be a world where a bad guy can wear an elaborate flashy costume, since Spider-Man wears one.

 

[SANDMAN]

I think that Lizard and Kraven, if they're used good, could be really a powerful duo of villains...
They should go with a storyline like this (I remember reading something similar in some old spidey comics):
Let Kraven somehow be an ex famous hunter became millionaire with the taste for impossible challenges who wants to unmask spiderman in front of tvs and papers. So in the first part of the movie Spidey, while fighting some minor criminals, must deal with all the troubles Kraven causes to him. In the meanwhile, Peter works at the university with Dr. Connors, and we get to know him better and get a feeling with him like we did with doc ock. Connors is studying a special serum based on lizards and reptiles for the regrowth of parts of the human body, and eventually self injects himself with it and then we have the Lizard. He is totally without control, and has some fights with Spiderman. Obviously nobody knows who the Lizard actually is, and after he is noticed by the medias, Kraven decides to hunt him as well. Peter finds out that the Lizard is actually Connors, and he must protect him from Kraven who wants to kill him. So it could be an interesting triangle...We get some minor battles between them, until a big final showdown, where Kraven gets convinced that Spiderman is on the Lizard's side because he tries to protect Connors, and so he want to kill them both, and in a final moment of conciousness the Lizard understands that Spidey is Peter, and sacrifice himself killing Kraven as well. But at the end of the movie we get a shot at a sewer and we see a glimpse of the Lizard still alive...
What do you think about it?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

For spider man 4, the lizard and kraven. For spider man 5 the return of doc ock and the emergence of vulture. And just for fun venom and carnage for spidey 6.
I remember reading on empire magazine's website a while back, they had ideas on what villains should be in the set of spidey sequels. When they got to venom they had a quite interesting idea, they said the next venom wouldn't be eddie brock jr. But eddie brock senior. Going off of what they said here's my explanation of the new venom, maybe eddies dad witnessed the fight and saw his son die. So he goes to investigate the battle site, angry and saddened by his son's death by the hands of spider man. While there, some small traces of the simbiote finds its way to him and his negative energies. Thus creating a venom with darker motives toward peter. Eddie brock senior would be describes as middle aged man in near perfect shape for his age (somewhere in his mid forties).
The actor empire suggested play the roll was kurt Russell.

 

[Texas Zombie]

mysterio shoots crystal meth and plyciblion mushroom mix at people and they hallucinate, aaaaaaaaaahhh.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

i remember a Spider-man (2002) leaked teaser with the webshooter. Then, this teaser is missing.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

i remember a Spider-man (2002) leaked teaser with the webshooter. Then, this teaser is missing.

Check the forum, there's a thread about that.

 

[bullets]

Cast Bruce Campbell as Quentin Beck.

Then we wouldn't care if Mysterio wears an inverted glowing fishbowl or not.

So true.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Man. . . to tell you the truth I would rather Raimi scrap any more spiderman and revamp evil dead. I love those movies.
I title could be The Evil Dead Live or rise again.

 

[HughJackFan420]

Papajohn as Electro or Carnage

 

[Venom'sDad]

Nah... he's just a burglar in a flashback

 

[He-Man]

New York centric villain = Lizard



There has always been urban legends involving NYC and alligators in the sewers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_alligator

Remember seeing something on the history channel about it before.
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzaAvAFvIkA[/YT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzaAvAFvIkA


Think they will include the lizard some kind of way with this.

 

[Artistsean]

I'd be upset, I think, if they turned the Burglar who (original) killed Uncle Ben into Electro or Carnage or another villain. If he became more than just a regular criminal...

I was talking with someone who said that Kraven, and maybe the Lizard, would sort of be a step down from Spider-Man 3.
Spider-Man fought both Sandman and Venom in a big dramatic battle.
Then in Spider-Man 4 he fights a lizard man or a super human hunter?

I am not saying it would be bad, but maybe it wouldn't seem as big and dramatic or as dangerous for Spider-Man.

Whereas someone like Electro, or Mysterio maybe, would seem like more of a threat.


Also, another reason to being back Doc Ock for Spider-Man 6, and use the Sinister Six...
the Alfred said he would return to play the character again.

Plus some other reasons:
I also think it would give other characters a chance to be used, like the Rhino. Rhino wouldn't need much focus, he is just the strong man of the team, not a lot to his character or anything. I don't know if he could carry a film by himself either. Vulture could be brought in, Kraven, Electro could b e used in 4 or 5 and then brought back to join the 6.

 

[Artistsean]

perhaps some mental deterioration from lack of oxygen (from being dead in the water for a few minutes longer than a person can take, I think in the comics his mind was damaged by the radiation too.)
perhaps he is mad, blames, Spider-Man for leaving him for dead,
perhaps his AI mechanical arms take more control over his mind,
Perhaps he has some memory loss as well, and doesn't remember redeeming himself and saving the day.

maybe all of them,
He was officially dead (in the water without oxygen too long) his mind deteriorated (got damaged some) enough to cause him to become more angry, aggressive, erratic. He also has some memory loss, not remembering how he saved the day or find out who Spider-Man really was.
He blames Spider-Man for leaving him, causing his mental state.
But not only that, now the super intelligent mechanical arms have slightly more control over him as well.

He got out of the water after Spider-Man and MJ had left. He was alive during Spider-Man 3, watching and planning. He puts together the Sinister Six as his ultimate plan to destroy Spider-Man.


of coarse they studio probably wont do exactly all these ideas, but his still being alive, and why he is bad again can be easily explained I think. And It would be cool to have him return and lead the Sinister Six in the 6th and possibly final Spider-Man film.

It would just make a great finally I think.

This is how the Spider-Man 2 movie ended:

Spoiler

I think they could show something like this, show that this was going on while Peter and MJ talked:

The arms drag Doc Ock out of the water, he has been dead for a while,
the arms look at him worried,
and then he opens his eyes and gasps.

They can also establish that he was alive and watching during Spider-Man 3. Angry at Spider-Man, and possibly suffering from some brain damage.

 

[FaT_tONle]

How are they going to explain what Ock was doing all along? They can't just have him randomly appear. That's why I think it would be beneficial if Marvel/Sony shared some rights to concepts like the SHIELD, where Octavius would have continued with his research. Doesn't mean Nick Fury needs to show up, but it would be one viable explanation. Of course they can just make some secret scientific/criminal organization up for the film's sake, but it is better they use things within the Marvel Universe.