The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

What villain should appear in the next movie?

  • Mysterio

  • Electro

  • Hobgoblin

  • Carnage

  • Shocker

  • Vulture

  • Chameleon

  • Kraven

  • Rhino

  • Morbius

  • Scorpion

  • Lizard

  • Other


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It's probably a rough idea that they'll polish later on.

Early drafts of Spider-Man 2, by example, had a mid-20s Doctor Octopus who starts off as a super-hero rival to Spider-Man, falls in love with Mary-Jane and slowly descends into madness because of the tentacles' AI.
 
I don't mind the choice of Malkovich for Vulture but having Felicia Hardy become a character called the Vulturess sounds absolutely lame.
I doubt she'd ever actually be called that, it seems more like a nickname (like "new goblin") people are focusing way to much on the name

it would probably just be her at one point in the movie, discovering her fathers equipment (wings, suit,...) figuring out that her father is real the Vulture, she doesn't really know how to feel about at first, but, wants to, either help or stop him, when she hears about a big scene going down between him and spidey, so, she puts it on and flys down there, or something like that
 
I don't think there is a spidey villian I would want to see less than the vulture (LAME!) well, maybe the spot.
 
Quite Frankly I Think that action scenes with Vulture could be great visuals.He would be a good villain and even better if he was paired with someone like Electro.Hell a Vulture/Scorpion pair would be fantastic.
 
I'm not against Vilture as a main villain. But this Vulturess thing is dumb. I have never been a fan of female villains inspired by their male counterparts.
I have made exceptions in the past though.
 
IMHO, I don't think Malkovich is the right pick for Vulture, if there is any validity to it. He definitely have the look; but Toomes character is not the sorta character that fits Malkovich talents... otherthan being just the badass bad guy.

Malkovich plays complicated, complex personalities... personalities that are thinkers, schemers, plotters, wise & witty, but a malcontent. Know what I mean? Those are the type of characters that he is great at portraying. Coupled that with the fact that I really don't trust Sam Raimi & Co. in writing a slick story that fit his talents; yet alone, understand the character and proper usage in the plot and context of a story. I have no doubt that Malkovich is a great addition to the franchise; hope he's not wasted.

As far as the reported plot.... like someone has said, I too have read better fan-boy story than that garbage they are proposing. However, I think many of you are mistaking in believing that Felicia Hardy would become some sort of Vultress. I think some actress may become Vulturess be it Anne Hathaway or someone else; but to Sam's defense, I think there may be two actress joining the film one to play Valeria Toomes(Vulturess/former SHIELD Agent) and the other to play Felicia Hardy(possibly Black Cat as well). The report may have confuse the two into one.
 
Oh please, the only shock here is that people actually believe this. I mean, come on, Vulturess?? That's less credible than Aunt May as Carnage.
 
Oh please, the only shock here is that people actually believe this. I mean, come on, Vulturess?? That's less credible than Aunt May as Carnage.

:cmad::cmad::cmad: it's gonna happen!!


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That just made my night after working on a final paper all night.Thank you.:awesome:
 
The Vultress?

Congratulations Sam, you've made me not want to see Spider-Man 4. Congrats.
 
IMHO, I don't think Malkovich is the right pick for Vulture... Toomes character is not the sorta character that fits Malkovich talents... Malkovich plays... personalities that are thinkers, schemers, plotters, wise & witty

Just thought this was funny.

I think Malkovich could pull it off for sure.
 
Though the speculation (yes, speculation - read the bleepin' article, people) of Vulturess is absolutely absurd, I can understand Vulture being added and honestly, I'd have nothing against as long as he's done well, though I'd, of course, rather Lizard.
But seriously - VULTURESS???? Who starts these rumors?
Heck, how do they start these rumors? I wanna give it a shot!
 
Wasn't Topher rumoured to play Chameleon ? Maybe this is a curve ball.
 
Quite Frankly I Think that action scenes with Vulture could be great visuals.He would be a good villain and even better if he was paired with someone like Electro.Hell a Vulture/Scorpion pair would be fantastic.

:up: for Vulture/Scorpion! Those two villains easily fit with one another, not to mention action-wise.
 
:up: for Vulture/Scorpion! Those two villains easily fit with one another, not to mention action-wise.
Yea I actually came up with a plot for the two in another thread today.

-At the begining of the film is a huge bank robbery/car chase seen.spidey stops the robbers.Among them is herman Schultz

-Adrian Toomes and Norman Osborn were partners in the beginning.Toomes helped developed tech like the glider.However Norman ran Toomes out of the company,Took credit for his invetions and left him with nothing.

-Toomes rebuild himself slowly waiting for the day he could get his revenge on Osborn.However by the time he has enough funds for his revenge "project" he reads the paper and finds that Norman Osborn has died.Toomes is furious that his chance at revenge has been taken away.He however continues to amass more wealth selling his inventions to both the army and criminal organations

-After the incident with Octavius and the death of both Osborns, Oscorp is in shambles.Toomes gives an offer and buys it out.He feels satisfied owning the company but it isn't enough.He has to know who took his chance at vengenance away.He finds and reads Osborn's journal.He now knows Norman was the Green Goblin and finds out that the Goblin was killed.Now Spidey is Toomes target.

-The effects of Toomes selling his tech to the underworld as we see spidey break up a hiest.When there he sees Schultz and makes a joke about how times he's put him away.But Schultz tells spidey "Well this time you might be a little SHOCKED!(Corny I know but I think it fits the character.)A big fight between Shocker and Spidey takes place in the middle of the city with a few people getting hurt.Soon Spidey defeats Shocker and puts him in jail.after the battle he asks the shocker where he got the tech and Schultz just tells him his boss got from some "old buzzard".we then see scenes of spidey investigating where the tech is comig from.

-With people hurt Jonah becomes more agressive with his campaign against spider-man.He calls out to anyone who can stop Spider-man.Toomes sees this and offers Jonah help in capturing Spider-man.Mac Gargan volunteers for the project.Toomes created the Scorpion!

-Soon Spidey discovers the tech is coming from oscorp and goes to investigate further.However before he can he his attacked by the scorpion.The battle amonst the rooftops and Scorpion is victorious.However before the death blow,The formula has adverse effects on Gargan and he starts to lose more upon the realization he can't take the suit off.He begins to attack innocent civilains in a fit of rage and then dissapers

-Jonah calls Toomes to complain about the Scorpion's behavior and Toomes doesn't care and is only angry that Gargan didn't get the job done.He puts forth plan B.We see Toomes open a door and the Vulture Costume is revealed.

-We see the Scorpion in a torn down warehouse growing more mad as time goes on.He decides to make both Toomes and Jonah pay.

-one fight takes place in the daily bugle with Scorpion attacking Jonah and kinnapping him.

-A one and one Vulture vs. Spidey fight occurs mid air with Spidey barely surviving.He escapes and come s to MJ beaten and bruised.She nurtures him to health.

-Spidey decides to look for Jonah despite MJ's Concerns.The Scorpion soons leaves a message for toomes that if he doesn't meet him at a certain location then he will reveal his transgresion to the press.Toomes suits up and goes to the spot.

-Spidey spots Vulture Flying and tracks him.Soon they both arrive at the warehouse and a three way battle with Jonah screaming at all three at the same time ensues.


I Figure Gargan can be a private investigator fro the bugle before his transformation and that shocker doesn't really need that much character development as he's nothing more then a grunt.
 
Jude Law as Mephisto!

Thats right! I want Raimi to adapt Brand New Day. The film would end with Peter making the deal with Mephy then instead of credits the first spidey film plays.

THAT would not only be genius, but take great balls of brass.
 
My ideas for a Mysterio movie, and how it fits in to the overall Spider-Man stories:
In a movie you need the story, villain, obstacles, and such, to evolve the star.
How would this Mysterio movie do that?
It would help Spider-Man redeem himself after Spider-Man 3.

(I mention is more later in this post, but Mysterio's plan is to frame Spider-Man for robbery, then using illusions make Spider-Man think he is going crazy, then posing as a psychiatrist give several interviews in the Daily bugle about how Spider-Man is mentally unstable and could crack at any minute and use the black costume problems and the robberies as an example.)

Mysterio has been watching and waiting, knowing he can't defeat Spider-Man one on one (Mysterio's own words from the comic). He waits for the right moment to strike, when Spider-Man is most vulnerable, after the Black Costume mess.
A time when he is drained physically and emotionally.

So the movie becomes Peter Parker not only getting the public to trust him again, as well as Mary Jane, but himself too.
So in the end Spider-Man saves the city, his loved ones, his reputation, and proves himself to the public and himself, showing he is back to the heroic Spider-Man we all know and love from the previous movies.

In the comics Quintin Beck creates his Mysterio costume, and weapons, based on Spider-Man's costume.
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So, in the movie it can be the same, and help explain his wacky costume.
Also, since he is sort of posing as a hero, he might want it to look the most outragious in order to catch the publics attention.
It can look like this:
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Just make the gray webbing black and not webbing, but straight.

Spider-Man 4
villain: Mysterio

Spider-Man is seen robbing museums and banks all over New York. The Daily Bugle reports about it, along with other papers. Its not just rumors anymore. At the same time a Psychiatrist comes to the Daily Bugle with information, in his professional opinion Spider-Man is suffering from severe mental illness and could crack at any time and judging by the robberies it may have started already.
Peter reads about it, and hears about it at the paper, the doctor's report gets Peter worried that maybe his spider-powers are starting to effect his brain, could he be blacking out and robbing banks?
Even though Mary Jane, who Peter is now living with, tries to comfort him Peter is still worried.
Suddenly a new hero shows up in New York and goes straight to the Daily Bugle, as well as other papers. His name is Mysterio and he is here to save New York from Spider-Man.
During is swinging around the city to clear his head Peter starts seeing things. Old enemies like Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, and Venom, come out of no where and attack. Spider-Man fights back but suddenly nothing is there. Could the doctor actually be right?
While Peter tries to come to grips with his problem, even meeting with the Doctor, Mary Jane is unsure of this psychiatrist and decides to investigate.
Spider-Man also has several run ins with Mysterio, he seems stronger, faster, and has mystical powers.
Perhaps Mary Jane meets this doctor and finds out he is connected to Mysterio. Only she gets kidnapped or is running from the psychiatrist because he actually is Mysterio.
Spider-Man also finds out that Mysterio was behind the robberies, pretending to be Spider-Man, and he actually is the psychiatrist, and behind all the illusions that made Spider-Man think he was loosing his mind.
In the end Peter/Spider-Man wins because, while Mysterio may be stronger, faster, and more powerful, its all manufactured, whereas Peter's powers are all natural. Maybe Mysterio even dies at the end, but we also see that his death was another illusion.

Sometime during the film Aunt May also finds out that Peter is Spider-Man, and during the coarse of the movie we see her reaction.
First shock, sadness, anger, all sorts of emotions, eventually acceptance (we see her write letters to papers like the Bugle, dropping her subscription because of all the bad mouthing they do about Spider-man, while she writes a letter of praise about another paper's , Front Line's, praising Spider-Man.) We also see her do subtle things to help Peter with his alter ego without Peter knowing.
Will she tell Peter she knows? Maybe she is having trouble figuring out what to do.
This would give Aunt May something to do in the films, just like giving Mary Jane more to do than just be the love interest and damsel in distress.

Mysterio should come off as a super genius and planner.
Thanks, I just used two of the original Mysterio storylines.
One where he tries to frame Spider-Man for robbery and set himself up as New York's Hero, and another where he tries to convince Spider-Man that he is going crazy.
For Aunt May I used the storyline where she found out about Peter being Spider-Man. I loved how she reacted.
It was so short because they were just ideas, I wasn't trying to write a whole movie outline.

The whole Spider-Man going crazy idea could even tie into his past with the black suit, people are willing to believe because of his behavior with the alien costume. Plus Peter thinks his mental state could be unraveling because of the effects of the costume, perhaps. Mary Jane, however should never really doubt him.
the Psychiatrist, Mysterio in disguise, could have a few sessions with Spider-Man in which he tries to make Spider-Man think he is going crazy.

The scenes with the past villains, Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, Green Goblin II, Venom, could all be done quickly and cheaply, since they are illusions that only last for a few minutes each.

If they use Mysterio these are just some ideas on how to make him a serious threat to Spider-Man.

Something else they could add in that was done in the old comics all the time,
Jameson backs Mysterio, and the Psychiatrist, so much that when it is revealed by Peter's photos that Mysterio was framing Spider-Man the whole time and is in fact the real bad guy,
Jameson, choking on his own rage, must run a retraction.
He usually says something like "run it on the bottom of page 12."

K. So plot synopsis:
Mysterio (AKA the psychiatrist) comes to town to frame Spider-Man, make him and everyone else think he has lots his mind and is dangerous, and make Mysterio look like a hero.
Aunt May finds out about Peter's secret, Jameson backs Mysterio, Mary Jane tries to help Peter by doing some detective work.

Thanks so much, again just applying stuff from the comics. And trying to give the actors more to do in the movie than just be the Aunt who is sad about Uncle Ben or the girlfriend/wife who becomes the damsel in distress. I think Both Actors would enjoy having more to do, plus Tobey would get to try something different, make himself think he is having a break down.
Another fun plus would be having one of the costumed spidey villains showing up at the Daily bugle, like they used to all the time.
In the old comics Kraven, Mysterio, Vulture, would show up in the building. Kraven and Mysterio just walked in like normal.
Wouldn't that be cool?
Mysterio walks in, saying he is giving the Bugle an exclusive. He will defeat Spider-Man and save New York. Jameson posts a giant front page story about Mysterio praising him up and down, calling him the hero the city needs and such. Then when he is shown to be the bad guy Jameson is forced to retract his statements.
Oh! They should also show Jameson writing an editorial about why Spider-Man is a menace.

In a movie you need the story, villain, obstacles, and such, to evolve the star.
How would this Mysterio movie do that?
It would help Spider-Man redeem himself after Spider-Man 2.

Mysterio has been watching and waiting, knowing he can't defeat Spider-Man one on one (Mysterio's own words from the comic). He waits for the right moment to strike, when Spider-Man is most vulnerable, after the Black Costume mess.
A time when he is drained physically and emotionally.

So the movie becomes Peter Parker not only getting the public to trust him again, as well as Mary Jane, but himself too.
So in the end Spider-Man saves the city, his loved ones, his reputation, and proves himself to the public and himself, showing he is back to the heroic Spider-Man we all know and love from the previous movies.
 
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As long as Bruce Campball isnt your choice for Mysterio,Artistsean...I like your proposals.
 
i think venom892's plot is pretty sweet id watch that movie as long as the vulture is paired with another kick ass villain
 
They definitely need to do an impostor Spidey story in the movies.
 
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