The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[crimsonspider89]

I think Vulture needs to be the owner of the weapons company rival to Oscorp that Norman destroyed. Toomes then takes up the Vulture harness to rebuild the company by stealing and he does. He then talks the electrician into being a test subject for a new process to make super soldiers which creates Electro but have Max be one of Pete's former classmates.

 

[Artistsean]

There was a scene in the very first Spider-Man where he saves John Jameson's space ship from crashing. Can anyone find those pics? That would be a great scene and call back to that comic too.
I don't want another we wont tell scene either. But maybe he could sneak out through the landing gear or something.
But with Vulture there HAS to be aerial fight scenes. Thats one of the Vulture's greatest advantages over Spider-Man. He always mentions that.

 

[venom892]

Don't take this wrong way, but I think it needs a bit more work. JJJ kind of seems like a third wheel in all this, and I can't see that working in a Scorpion story. Plus, I don't understand where you're going with the Vulture's motivation. He wants revenge on Spidey for killing Gobby when he wanted to do that? It may work in a cartoon, but not in a feature-length movie.... Gargan doesn't really have the motivation to sign up for the experiment either. I know that it's the same as it was in the comics, but again, the stakes need to be upped for a movie. The best thing, IMO, would be to separate Vulture and Scorpion - I don't really see them having chemistry. Though I do like the idea of Toomes buying Oscorp - that could work pretty well!

Thanks for your honest opinion.I know it needs work....I thought it up in about ten minutes.I haven't really thought of Scorpion's motivation in all this but I still think he and Vulture would be a good pairing.I don't know if Sony would ever sign up on spider slayers and I don't Vulture and Scorpion can hold a movie themselves.But I'm interested in your opinion.What do you think of Shocker being a product of Toomes selling his tech to the crime syndicates?Let me know!

 

[Doc Ock]

I think Vulture needs to be the owner of the weapons company rival to Oscorp that Norman destroyed. Toomes then takes up the Vulture harness to rebuild the company by stealing and he does. He then talks the electrician into being a test subject for a new process to make super soldiers which creates Electro but have Max be one of Pete's former classmates.

I like that idea, but I would like to have Shocker instead of Electro because he might be to odd to be in the film, for now.

 

[crimsonspider89]

Electro is a much greater threat than Shocker. IDK about Shocker or Rhino as a main villain.

 

[SpideyFan914]

The Green Spider-Man was just my example of the green area of Mysterio's costume. I agree. He MUST have the fishbowl. I was only saying the costume could look the way it does because he used Spider-Man's design as part of it. Instead of just a green spandex costume with black gridding on it, the black grid should pop up like Spidey's webbing and the green part should be made out of the same material as Spider-Man's red part (only Mysterio's is colored green).

Motivation: Just like in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon
"OK Spider-Man, you caught me again."
Spidey- "Again? You mean I caught you before?"
"Don't act like you don't remember me, I was on the cruise ship."
Spidey- "Oh, oh yeah."

Mysterio was captured by Spider-Man once already, and sent to prison for a few years. So he is back for revenge, and money. Revenge and money.
Or, he could be motivated by revenge, money, and was hired by a mysterious third party leading to another big bad guy and a possible Sinister Six.

"Now you know. It's me."
"Riiight.... Who are you?"
"You put me away!"
"I did? Cool!"
"Oh, c'mon! I was working with Chameleon!"
"Right - you were.... the crewman!"
"The waiter!! 'Demitoss, Spider-Man?'"
That's a bit closer. (Yeah, I'm that geeky.)
Personally, I can't see Mysterio being able to pose as a psychiatrist if Beck is a known criminal. Even under a false alias, the NYPD isn't that stupid. Plus, giving him two identities could be confusing for non-Spidey fans - if they were to adapt ASM #24 (which I would love to see), I'd say that the psychiatrist could actually be using his real name - Quentin Beck! Unless, of course, Beck was well-established in a prior movie.
I'm fine with the revenge motivation, but I don't think the classic "You put me away." would work as well here. For one thing, if Beck's publicly psychoanalyzing Spider-Man, somewhere down the line, someone would check his credentials. Even JJJ isn't obsessive enough not to ensure that his source is reliable.
So perhaps, Beck actually is a psychiatrist, but Spider-Man somehow messed him up. I don't know, just a basic undeveloped thought.

I agree about the Six though, it would be almost impossible to make a good Sinister Six movie.
But maybe if most of the important bad guys in the six were introduced in the previous movies, like Ock (I have ideas how to bring him back and Alfred wants back in too), Sandman, and whoever is going to be in 4 and 5, then maybe the rest could be characters without much story or whatever, like Rhino who is big dumb and strong but would add much else... I think.
It might end up too cluttered, but it would be so much fun to see in a movie.

But you see, I don't want Ock to return. His death was powerful, and shouldn't be altered. I always hated how villains constantly come back from the dead in comics.
I don't want to see Sandman back either, simply because I hate his SM3 portrayal.
So that leaves us with 4 max returning villains (2 from 4, 2 from 5 - Raimi said there won't be 3 villains again). I honestly cannot see them bringing back 4 villains and creating 2 more, even if they're just throwaways. Heck, I can't even see them creating any throwaways - if you already have time invested in the origin, it would feel like a waste for them to be minor characters, unless they had a direct impact on the plot.

Thanks for your honest opinion.I know it needs work....I thought it up in about ten minutes.I haven't really thought of Scorpion's motivation in all this but I still think he and Vulture would be a good pairing.I don't know if Sony would ever sign up on spider slayers and I don't Vulture and Scorpion can hold a movie themselves.But I'm interested in your opinion.What do you think of Shocker being a product of Toomes selling his tech to the crime syndicates?Let me know!

I like the Shocker idea. He doesn't need much development (and I'd honestly never want Shocker to be a main villain), and it would be a nice fight before the big bads come in. Plus, even if Shocker's minor, it would really shift the story into full-gear, upping the ante on Vulture's villainy and putting Spidey on his trail.

I think Vulture needs to be the owner of the weapons company rival to Oscorp that Norman destroyed. Toomes then takes up the Vulture harness to rebuild the company by stealing and he does. He then talks the electrician into being a test subject for a new process to make super soldiers which creates Electro but have Max be one of Pete's former classmates.

I like it.
As I mentioned earlier, I like the idea of giving Toomes a connection with Osborn, and the idea of him owning a company. It's a nice motive too - he's trying to save his butt from bankruptcy. Good parallel with Gobby.
And as for Electro, I see this idea for him as kind of like what TSSM did with Molten Man. A scared kid (well, a bit older, but almost a kid) who winds up in over his head, turns into a freak, and is forced to do the bidding of the mastermind. It would probably be a lot like what SM3 was going to be.
I don't think he's too odd, either, 'cause he's way more believable than Sandman. Seriously, what kind of guy can turn into an inanimate object? That makes no sense.

 

[Artistsean]

Thats why I think Rhino and some other characters like him would be perfect for a Sinister Six movie,
Rhino is the big dumb muscle that lacks much story, so he could be used with little introduction and kept in the back ground most of the time while characters like Ock and Electro do more things.

 

[crimsonspider89]

I think the Vulture would be a good villain if paired up with someone like the Lizard or Electro. Yeah if they do a Sinister Six, it needs to be Rhino, Shocker, return of Sandman, Scorpion, Kraven, and Hobgoblin hired by Kingpin.

 

[bullets]

I think the Vulture would be a good villain if paired up with someone like the Lizard or Electro. Yeah if they do a Sinister Six, it needs to be Rhino, Shocker, return of Sandman, Scorpion, Kraven, and Hobgoblin hired by Kingpin.

I'd really want to see The Lizard and either Vulture or Electro be the villians of SM4 and then do a two parter 5 and 6. In SM4 Parker should propose and SM6 end with the wedding . Part 5 Spider-man should lose to the sinister six . Then Lizard or Black Cat , even Sandman could help him defeat the sinisters six to conclude the series.

 

[SpideyFan914]

I think the Vulture would be a good villain if paired up with someone like the Lizard or Electro.

Why didn't I think of that? We could group Vulture and Lizard! That could actually be pretty cool.
Okay, I'm making this up as I go along....
So, Toomes buys Oscorp (I still think that's a great idea), and begins to stabilize it. Plus, maybe Connors works for Oscorp (it was never specified in previous movies what he does when he's not teaching). Still, however, their funds are low after all the hell the company's been through lately, so both Toomes and Connors are struggling through their positions.
In need of a breakthrough, Toomes lends most of Oscorp's money to Connors, who proposes the idea of regenerating lost limbs. However, as Connors continues through his experiments, Toomes believes that his results are insane (I mean, c'mon - lizard DNA to regrow arms?). Meanwhile, Toomes rediscovers the old notes on the glider technology, and, deciding that would be more profitable, lends his money toward that research.
But of course, having become personally invested in his work, Connors proceeds anyway, and, for lack of a test subject, uses himself. When detectives draw the connection between the Lizard and Oscorp, Toomes is driven to the ground but his rivals.
Desperate and infuriated, Toomes dons his wings and seeks out the Lizard. He manages to find the monster, and direct his savage instincts against his competitors, as Oscorp begins to win back profit....
Peter, meanwhile, had been assisting Connors in his experiments before their funding was cut, and became closer to him, so when he hears about his friend's transformation, he seeks to save him. But of course, with the Vulture's interference, Spider-Man finds himself battling more than just a primal monster, and must stop the Vulture as well if he wants to cure his friend.

Yeah if they do a Sinister Six, it needs to be Rhino, Shocker, return of Sandman, Scorpion, Kraven, and Hobgoblin hired by Kingpin.

Another reason I don't want the Sinister Six: in my mind, they're all common thugs with the exception of maybe one or two.
The first line-up was Ock, Electro, Kraven, Mysterio, Sandman, and Vulture. All ordinary, basically motivated villains with Ock being the one mastermind.
Second line-up: Ock, Electro, Mysterio, Sandman, Vulture, and Hobgoblin IV. Also all basic villains (this was Macendale, not Kingsley) except for Ock (mastermind and traitor) and Sandman (who had gone straight by this point and, if I remember correctly, was threatened - though it may have been an alternate motive....).
Next line-up (I think this is right): Sandman, Electro, Mysterio, Vulture, Kraven II, and Venom. They all had the same motive - revenge on Ock for his betrayal. And then Venom joined and (though I still haven't read part 2, to be honest) just wanted in on the beating-up-Spidey and wound up eating Sandman.
First Insidious Six: Ock, Scorpion, Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, and Chameleon, taking orders from Kingpin. And absolutely none of them stood out.
Second Insidious Six: Ock, Scorpion, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, and Chameleon, taking orders from Kingpin. Only special mention here is Chameleon's betrayal.
TSSM First Line-up: Ock, Electro, Vulture, Shocker, Sandman, Rhino. Ock's the mastermind, the rest are goons.
TSSM Second Line-up: Electro, Vulture, Sandman, Rhino, Mysterio, Kraven. None stood out, though they were taking orders from MP.

But in the movies, if villains are brought back from previous movies, more is expected from them than being mere goons. So unless you introduce 4 or 5 new villains, it can't work. Now that's what I call overboard.

 

[crimsonspider89]

All of them would just be common goons working for Kingpin, or Tombstone. Sandman would become a villain again to help his daughter who is nearly dead when Kingpin offers to pay for her doctor bill. Scorpion, Rhino, Shocker would be some random goons from the past movies who want revenge and are offered a chance by enhancing them with tech and chemicals. Hobgoblin would be a common theif who broke into Norman's apartment and stole the goblin tech along with the goblin formula. He would then offer to work for the Kingpin for a price.

 

[SpideyFan914]

All of them would just be common goons working for Kingpin, or Tombstone. Sandman would become a villain again to help his daughter who is nearly dead when Kingpin offers to pay for her doctor bill. Scorpion, Rhino, Shocker would be some random goons from the past movies who want revenge and are offered a chance by enhancing them with tech and chemicals. Hobgoblin would be a common theif who broke into Norman's apartment and stole the goblin tech along with the goblin formula. He would then offer to work for the Kingpin for a price.

They don't have the rights for Kingpin, but even if they were to use another crime lord, I prefer the mastermind of the Six to be part of the Six.
Scorpion's worth more than that. He could have his own movie. But he needs to be created by JJJ, IMO. That's part of his appeal.
And Hobgoblin.... the very idea is worth so much more than a common thief. Your idea fits the persona of Macendale, but for a movie, only Kingsley would really work. Any reference at all to the Green Goblin will automatically increase the audience's interest in him, and to then make him a simple goon would be a cop-out. However, I could see Hobby as a mastermind for the Six. Except that I don't want the Six....
Again, it wouldn't make sense to create three new villains just to throw them away. It may work elsewhere (X-Men, for instance), but in Spidey, a villain needs an origin, and for the movie to invest that time in the creation of a villain, it must be absolutely necessary for the villain to be in the movie. If you already have 3 great villains on the team, why create 3 more? Just to take a backseat in the action?
But, of course, to take 6 villains from previous movies would also result in a copout. As I explained earlier, when a villain has a whole movie to himself, you expect more from him than to be just another face in the crowd, and yet the Sinister Six will demand just that. It's contradictory, and as such, can't work out well.
(PS: You forgot to mention Kraven.)

 

[Doc Ock]

I'd really want to see The Lizard and either Vulture or Electro be the villians of SM4 and then do a two parter 5 and 6. In SM4 Parker should propose and SM6 end with the wedding . Part 5 Spider-man should lose to the sinister six . Then Lizard or Black Cat , even Sandman could help him defeat the sinisters six to conclude the series.

I love the idea of The Lizard or even Sandman helping defeat the Sinister Six.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Thats why I think Rhino and some other characters like him would be perfect for a Sinister Six movie,
Rhino is the big dumb muscle that lacks much story, so he could be used with little introduction and kept in the back ground most of the time while characters like Ock and Electro do more things.

That could be really cool. Though, of course, we wouldn't want him to be a character who we hardly see.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

The only way Spidey should defeat the Sinister Six is by having them turn against each other, it would be pretty cool and kinda humorous.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Personally, I would have done the Sinister Six before Venom; show the power and effect of the Symbiote... if you know what I mean.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The only way Spidey should defeat the Sinister Six is by having them turn against each other, it would be pretty cool and kinda humorous.

Well, they could do it in the style of Return Of The Sinister Six story or The SPectacular Spider-Man animated series. You know, where they sort of rush him at once. I haven't read the Return Of The Sinister Six story in a while, so I may have forgotten, but if I remember correctly, they do.

 

[Artistsean]

In the original Ock has organized it so Spider-man faces them one by one, I guess hoping to tire Spider-Man out by the time he gets to Ock. (Like how Bane tired Batman out by releasing all the criminals in Arkham.)
In the end however he is able to defeat them, probably easier, because they didn't team up in the fights.
Perhaps the movie could somehow use that, whoever puts the group together creates a strategy so that in the end Spider-Man is tired and easier to beat, leaving the leader of the Six to kill Spider-Man and take all the glory.
Or maybe the team is just so dysfunctional, since they are criminals and bad guys who don't really trust each other, that in the end they defeat themselves.

"Now you know. It's me."
"Riiight.... Who are you?"
"You put me away!"
"I did? Cool!"
"Oh, c'mon! I was working with Chameleon!"
"Right - you were.... the crewman!"
"The waiter!! 'Demitoss, Spider-Man?'"
That's a bit closer. (Yeah, I'm that geeky.)
Personally, I can't see Mysterio being able to pose as a psychiatrist if Beck is a known criminal. Even under a false alias, the NYPD isn't that stupid. Plus, giving him two identities could be confusing for non-Spidey fans - if they were to adapt ASM #24 (which I would love to see), I'd say that the psychiatrist could actually be using his real name - Quentin Beck! Unless, of course, Beck was well-established in a prior movie.
I'm fine with the revenge motivation, but I don't think the classic "You put me away." would work as well here. For one thing, if Beck's publicly psychoanalyzing Spider-Man, somewhere down the line, someone would check his credentials. Even JJJ isn't obsessive enough not to ensure that his source is reliable.
So perhaps, Beck actually is a psychiatrist, but Spider-Man somehow messed him up. I don't know, just a basic undeveloped thought.

But that is one of Jameson's downfalls, he rushes things and lets his blind hatred of Spider-Man bite him in the butt. That is also why he creates Scorpion.
Plus, I think someone who can create holographic illusions that seem real, robots, and mechanically recreate Spider-man's powers, would be very capable of faking identification and a fake person.
And Just like in the comic, throughout the movie one of the Daily Bugle employees (like Hoffman, giving him a bigger part) is researching this Psychiatrist under orders of Robbie (because he knows how Jonah jumps the gun a lot) and in the end he finds out the truth. Jameson races to confront the Psychiatrist and ends up as one of the many hostage types Spider-Man has to save. In the end I can see Spider-Man having to save MJ, Aunt May (who maybe went to confront Peter about being Spider-Man), Jameson, Robbie (giving him a bigger part), Captain Stacey and some cops, and some others, from Mysterio.
(Jameson can even have a line like "I hope Parker is getting some good pictures of this!")

 

[Artistsean]

Rhino: (not saying he should play him, it would depend on the role and the amount of acting required too) but someone at least with the similar build and look to him (face and proportion):
Bock Lesnar

Whoever plays Rhino, I would LOVE a scene like this:

Just replace Juggernaut with Rhino.
Spider-man may be outmatched in strength but he never gives up.

 

[Captain America]

Lizzard and Morbius are my top picks

 

[sauronthegreat]

I think villains that are not that powerful or are just not that smart should form a film version of Sinister Six.

Mysterio - leader and the most powerful on the team, the one that holds the strings

Vulture - the flying support and inteligence on the team, also a weapons specialist

Kraven or Scorpion - the hunter and physical opponent to SM (depending who should get his own movie, if Kraven gets his chance with Lizard in a film then it would be Scorpion, or if Scorpion gets his chance with the Spider-Slayers or Vulture then it should be Kraven)

Shocker - the firing offence

Rhino - the brawns of the team

Chameleon - the espionage and infiltration specialist


Once again I would choose this villains to form a film version of SS. Taking in consideration Ock's story was done spectacular and finished, and Sandman's also over in crime. Maybe I would like Sandman to appear in a film with a sole villain Electro, as a support to Spider-Man. And I believe this would be the only chance to see characters like Rhino, Shocker or Chameleon on screen.

 

[SpideyFan914]

Well, they could do it in the style of Return Of The Sinister Six story or The SPectacular Spider-Man animated series. You know, where they sort of rush him at once. I haven't read the Return Of The Sinister Six story in a while, so I may have forgotten, but if I remember correctly, they do.

That's the one where Ock betrays them. I forget exactly how and why, but.... yeah....

In the original Ock has organized it so Spider-man faces them one by one, I guess hoping to tire Spider-Man out by the time he gets to Ock. (Like how Bane tired Batman out by releasing all the criminals in Arkham.)
In the end however he is able to defeat them, probably easier, because they didn't team up in the fights.
Perhaps the movie could somehow use that, whoever puts the group together creates a strategy so that in the end Spider-Man is tired and easier to beat, leaving the leader of the Six to kill Spider-Man and take all the glory.
Or maybe the team is just so dysfunctional, since they are criminals and bad guys who don't really trust each other, that in the end they defeat themselves.

If Spidey fights them one-by-one, they each have little more than one scene, and they each become uninteresting.
If they all fight Spider-Man at once, it's hard to comprehend how they lose, and none of them get any characterization at all, creating a Fox-type action movie.
If Spidey wins with the help of another, the movie becomes even more cluttered, and the characters become even less interesting.
If the team is dysfunctional and they all turn against each other, they all act as one, and their characters seem too similar, thus drawing a flatline.

You see where I'm going with this?

But that is one of Jameson's downfalls, he rushes things and lets his blind hatred of Spider-Man bite him in the butt. That is also why he creates Scorpion.
Plus, I think someone who can create holographic illusions that seem real, robots, and mechanically recreate Spider-man's powers, would be very capable of faking identification and a fake person.
And Just like in the comic, throughout the movie one of the Daily Bugle employees (like Hoffman, giving him a bigger part) is researching this Psychiatrist under orders of Robbie (because he knows how Jonah jumps the gun a lot) and in the end he finds out the truth. Jameson races to confront the Psychiatrist and ends up as one of the many hostage types Spider-Man has to save. In the end I can see Spider-Man having to save MJ, Aunt May (who maybe went to confront Peter about being Spider-Man), Jameson, Robbie (giving him a bigger part), Captain Stacey and some cops, and some others, from Mysterio.
(Jameson can even have a line like "I hope Parker is getting some good pictures of this!")

Okay, I like this. But.... not so many hostages.... We definitely need to MJ to be a hostage again, but I like the idea of JJJ or Robbie getting captured. Captain Stacy too. But no more than two hostages - I think we'd have a lot of chemistry between JJJ and Stacy (e.g. Opening Night), so that would be my pick. Plus, it would be great for them to avoid the stereotypical "damsel-in-distress".

Rhino: (not saying he should play him, it would depend on the role and the amount of acting required too) but someone at least with the similar build and look to him (face and proportion):
Bock Lesnar

Whoever plays Rhino, I would LOVE a scene like this:

Just replace Juggernaut with Rhino.
Spider-man may be outmatched in strength but he never gives up.

Okay, that guy does look like Rhino.
That scene's great, too - I love the Spidey v. Juggernaut story!
However, I would not want Rhino in a movie. At best, he could be a single-scene villain, like what we were talking about earlier with Ringmaster, Enforcerers, and Hammerhead. Of course, then we'd need to fiddle with an origin, so it would need become a necessary part of the plot. Also, for a guy who only appears in one scene, I can't see Spidey having that much trouble with him....
So.... it probably wouldn't work, IMO. Sorry.

 

[Artistsean]

That's the one where Ock betrays them. I forget exactly how and why, but.... yeah....


If Spidey fights them one-by-one, they each have little more than one scene, and they each become uninteresting.
If they all fight Spider-Man at once, it's hard to comprehend how they lose, and none of them get any characterization at all, creating a Fox-type action movie.
If Spidey wins with the help of another, the movie becomes even more cluttered, and the characters become even less interesting.
If the team is dysfunctional and they all turn against each other, they all act as one, and their characters seem too similar, thus drawing a flatline.

You see where I'm going with this?

I do, and I agree. Making a good, and watchable, Sinister Six movie would be extremely difficult. And may never happen. But if it was possible it would be sooo Good to see Spider-Man versus the Sinister Six on the big screen. The drama, the major conflict would be "How will Spider-Man fight 6 major bad guys at once?" Thats always been what the Sinsiter Six is about. So I don't see a problem with Peter eventually being able to figure out how to beat them or never giving up until they are done. But it would be hard to fill a movie with six bad guys, Spider-Man, MJ, Aunt May, The Daily Bugle, and so on, and still have it work. But if it could somehow...

Okay, I like this. But.... not so many hostages.... We definitely need to MJ to be a hostage again, but I like the idea of JJJ or Robbie getting captured. Captain Stacy too. But no more than two hostages - I think we'd have a lot of chemistry between JJJ and Stacy (e.g. Opening Night), so that would be my pick. Plus, it would be great for them to avoid the stereotypical "damsel-in-distress".

I agree, All we would need is maybe MJ (who wouldn't be so scared this time), Robbie, Jameson, and Captain Stacey. But I was just trying to set up a few on lookers to Spider-Man's and Mysterio's fight at the end of the movie, a captive audience to Spider-Man's (and Peter's) redemption.
With MJ I don't see her being the typical damsel in distress anymore. Not that she is sued to it, but she goes to investigate the psychiatrist who has been hurting Peter (maybe talk to him) and she ends up stumbling into getting trapped by Mysterio. Jameson and Robbie, and Captain Stacey follow soon after. MJ wouldn't be screaming for her life because she has faith in Peter.
Aunt May could be at home this whole time too, her story is more about her finding out about Peter being Spider-Man anyway.

Okay, that guy does look like Rhino.
That scene's great, too - I love the Spidey v. Juggernaut story!
However, I would not want Rhino in a movie. At best, he could be a single-scene villain, like what we were talking about earlier with Ringmaster, Enforcerers, and Hammerhead. Of course, then we'd need to fiddle with an origin, so it would need become a necessary part of the plot. Also, for a guy who only appears in one scene, I can't see Spidey having that much trouble with him....
So.... it probably wouldn't work, IMO. Sorry.

Rhino could be more of a back up or side character, more like the muscle to the Vulture's plan. We see him created, we see him fight Spider-Man a few times, but mostly the main bad guy would be someone like Electro or the Vulture or whoever. Thats how I see Rhino working. Since he is sort of a character without much character there wouldn't need to be a lot of time waited on him other than to show him created and using his powers a few times (like a scene where Spider-Man is trying to stop him while being pummeled to death, like the Juggernaut scene.)


Mysterio's motivation, mentioned earlier, could be that he was captured by Spider-Man and sent to prison. But Spider-Man doesn't remember because he stops so many regular thugs and criminals. Maybe Beck was just robbing a bank, running out, and Spider-Man sprays him with a web-net sticking him to a wall.
Its a major event in Beck's life, but a few minutes to Spider-Man.
Maybe that could even be shown in the opener, on his way to fighting some super criminal like Hammerhead, the Enforcers, of Crime Circus, Spidey takes a few minutes to stop a bank robber. (But then how could he be waiting all this time? We would have to show that it was before the events of the Black suit somehow... Or just show it in a flashback as Beck tells Spider-Man his motivation then.)

I think Beck would make a great bad guy too, so smart he has to tell Spider-Man his whole plan at the end. To let Spider-Man know how much work and planning he did. He has to get the credit.

A great joke would be, if at the end of all this when Peter and MJ are talking, Peter could briefly say "I didn't reveal my identity this time." It wouldn't be the last line of the movie or anything, just a short scene, maybe while they are entering Aunt May's house. Aunt May's story could end with her knowing but us not knowing if she will tell Peter or not. Her, and us the audience, not knowing how she will handle it.

 

[Artistsean]

NinjaCarm had some cool ideas for Mysterio that I hadn't thought of, but would work very well in a Mysterio movie.
Posted here: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=332446

NinjaCarm mentions doing things like making Venom bigger and make Green goblin look closer to his comic appearance or more menacing, since Mysterio is actually using a holographic image of Venom and Green Goblin, perhaps it would be reasonable that he would want them to look scarier.
That could be done for the final scene, when Mysterio is using everything has has against Spider-Man (including scarier holographic images of his old enemies.) When Spider-Man is first tricked by the images of Venom, Sandman, Green Goblin, and Doc Ock, they need to look like their original appearances in the movies.
example:
Spider-Man is swinging through the city worried about the article, when he is suddenly attacked by Doc Ock. Peter tries to talk to Octavious, while avoiding his attacks, but he doesn't respond. Peter eventually has to retaliate with a punch of his own. But when Spider-Man punches, Octavious is suddenly gone, and Spider-Man punches a brick wall sending chunks of brick and debris falling to the ground bellow.
People on the ground look up and see Spider-Man swinging away.

The scene where he sees the Green Goblin again can be similar, where Peter tries to call to Norman, but all Norman responds with his creepy laughter. Peter, in a spider-web swinging scene, chases after the Green Goblin as the Goblin races through the city (sort of like the scene in Spider-Man 3 where Harry chases after Peter). Peter eventually turns a corner and the Goblin is gone.

Or how about the scene with Sandman, Sandman becomes the giant sand creature, like in the scene where he comes out of that truck and punches those guards. Sandman becomes a sand creature, and punches down on Spider-Man but Spider-Man passes right through like nothing was there, as Sandman punches he too vanishes.

 

[Artistsean]

Another scene that would be great if they ever did a Rhino movie,

Ultimate Spider-Man vs. Ultimate Hulk,
but imagine the Rhino

instead of the Hulk. Spider-Man is fighting the Rhino, who is clearly stronger than him and Spdiey is giving everything he has. In a desperate act Spider-Man throws a car on him, only to find the Rhino completely unharmed.