Once the Wrestling Thread Goes Bryan, There's No Point in Tryin! - - Part 64

[Pink Ranger]

Just for old time's sake. I'm still flabbergasted at how great a talker Anvil was; I keep looking back at old interviews, and he seems to get better the more I see him.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Kevin Steen is the ROH World Champion? Yuck.

 

[SuperBatman]

So is Steen Pretty Much the John Cena of ROH?

Also

Jim Ross has published a new blog entry on his official website. Highlights are as follows:

Tonight's No Way Out pay-per-view event: "For some reason, nothing specific but just a feeling, I'm guessing that WWE really shakes things up Sunday night on PPV at No Way Out. 'People Power' which reminds me of my Aunt Ruth's 'sour belches' (both are/were organically stinky) seems to be in jeopardy with the return of Mr. McMahon but the Boss siding with John Cena on this matter is a head scratcher so who knows what is going to occur Sunday night?"

 

[Hunter Rider]

I just did the pick-ems and I have to say I am unsure on 3 matches.

The stip now added to the cage match seems to indicate that Cena has to win, but that pretty much kills Big Show's push, however if they intend to remove Big Johnny and keep Show relatively strong they could copy the St. Valentine's Day Massacre cage match finish.

AJ has the triple threat all up in the air, but Punk is supposed to be savvy so I'd expect him to spot any swerve coming and be ready.......I wouldn't be shocked to see Bryan win though.

Layla vs Beth is also hard to call as Layla gets no reaction at all when she comes out, so they could switch to Beth to set up a match with Kharma at Summerslam. Alternatively though WWE has a very over AJ and Eve as potential heel challengers for Layla.

According to wiki, ROH changed the design in 2010.

Shame, the old design was much better.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So, how many jobbers will Ryback squash tonight?

 

[The Sage]

Legendary wrestling broadcaster "Mean" Gene Okerlund joined Inside The Ropes this past Thursday and divulged that the late Randy Savage declined WWE's multiple invitations to join their Hall of Fame.

When asked why the "Macho Man" isn't in the Hall, he responded, "Are you telling me that the WWE hadn’t made an overture to Randy about being in the Hall of Fame? That’s BS. They asked him many times and he declined. For whatever reason, that’s what I’m still trying to figure out."

Okerlund also gave his thoughts on Savage's rival Ultimate Warrior.

"He did have a look, that’s about as far as it goes. He couldn’t talk, he sure as hell couldn’t work in the ring, that was very marginal. I think one of the worst matches I’ve seen in my life was between Warrior and Papa Shango. What a disaster of monumental proportions," he said.

Okerlund also explained how WWE's pay-per-view frequency has changed the promotion.

"I personally think we have way too many pay-per-views," he says. "I don’t think we get the chance to adequately develop the storylines with the guys and gals between pay per views. I’d like to see us down to about eight pay per views a year."

In this ninety-minute interview, Okerlund explains the real reason he went to WCW in 1993, his views on "Rowdy" Roddy Piper not being given enough credit for WrestleMania, hating an angle Vince Russo scripted him and more. Visit insidetheropes.podbean.com and check out www.facebook.com/theinsidenetwork for upcoming shows and guests.

Chris Kelly (@H2HCrelly) and The Trey Dawg (@TreyWNL) were joined by former WWE Champion Kevin Nash (@RealKevinNash) for a special interview on this week’s Running The Ropes found over at www.facebook.com/runningtheropes.radio.. Highlights from the interview are as follows:

How the idea of his WWE return came about: "I was actually on my way to go to the gathering with the Insane Clown Posse and I got a phone call three or four days before that and they said “Hey, do you want to come to SummerSlam and stick Punk and make him lose the title to Del Rio?" I said, “Yeah sure, why not.”

Thoughts on CM Punk: "I would have liked to put the kid (CM Punk) over as I think he is a good talent and I enjoy watching him and he could definitely carry me to having a good match. I have enough left in me and I need somebody with his ability to have that stellar match."

Thoughts on his last WWE match: "To me, me and Paul didnt have my last match (as) I think I deserve to have a last match and if I could put someone over, I would be happy to do so. I have a few movies coming up so I’m enjoying working on the Indies as I can work when I want to work."

The difference between being on a WWE Legends contract as opposed to a TNA contract: "The money (being offered in TNA) was becoming almost global wrestling proportion. My whole thing is, you can offer me $200,000,00 for 10 dates but you own my brand, my name and my name is worth more than $200,000,00 whether I step in the ring or not."

Stating on Twitter that the WWE Hall Of Fame means "nothing to me": "I was just emotional as a really close friend of mine got released and then you get this people on Twitter who go on a rant taking about the WWE Hall Of Fame and it's like, you know what, Randy Savage isn’t in the Hall Of Fame, Rick Rude isn’t in the Hall Of Fame and there is a lot of cash cows that where mentors to me that I wouldn’t comfortable being in the Hall Of Fame in front of them."

He also discusses Vince Russo garnering too much blame, how the finish to a match is created and how it's out of the writer's hands, the creative process at TNA and more. The interview is available here..

According to F4WOnline.com, early WWE creative plans, which can always change, are indeed calling for Triple H to face Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam this year, despite the rocky relationship between Lesnar and WWE.

At this point, the match being discussed would see Vince McMahon in Triple H's corner, and John Laurinaitis in Brock Lesnar's corner. This scenario would involve Cena winning tonight at No Way Out, then McMahon firing Laurinaitis, which would then see the Board of Directors support Laurinaitis and he would return, along with Lesnar as his enforcer, to take out Triple H.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/341955687.php
http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/341955718.php
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/256427-report-early-creative-plans-for-hhh-vs-lesnar-at-summerslam

 

[NDX]

Legendary wrestling broadcaster "Mean" Gene Okerlund joined Inside The Ropes this past Thursday and divulged that the late Randy Savage declined WWE's multiple invitations to join their Hall of Fame.

When asked why the "Macho Man" isn't in the Hall, he responded, "Are you telling me that the WWE hadn’t made an overture to Randy about being in the Hall of Fame? That’s BS. They asked him many times and he declined. For whatever reason, that’s what I’m still trying to figure out."

Okerlund also gave his thoughts on Savage's rival Ultimate Warrior.

"He did have a look, that’s about as far as it goes. He couldn’t talk, he sure as hell couldn’t work in the ring, that was very marginal. I think one of the worst matches I’ve seen in my life was between Warrior and Papa Shango. What a disaster of monumental proportions," he said.

Okerlund also explained how WWE's pay-per-view frequency has changed the promotion.

"I personally think we have way too many pay-per-views," he says. "I don’t think we get the chance to adequately develop the storylines with the guys and gals between pay per views. I’d like to see us down to about eight pay per views a year."

In this ninety-minute interview, Okerlund explains the real reason he went to WCW in 1993, his views on "Rowdy" Roddy Piper not being given enough credit for WrestleMania, hating an angle Vince Russo scripted him and more. Visit insidetheropes.podbean.com and check out www.facebook.com/theinsidenetwork for upcoming shows and guests.

Mean Gene is blunt and to the point. And correct. And I read all the quotes in his voice.

 

[Superark]

www.PWInsider.com

MATT MORGAN UPDATE
by Mike Johnson @ 2:45 PM on 6/17/2012

TNA star Matt Morgan officially finished up his TNA commitments with this weekend's house shows. At last night's show, Morgan grabbed a sign from a fan at ringside that read, "Going, Going, Gone" and held it up to the crowd. Morgan wrote on Twitter that he was in Connecticut today, where he is originally from. Obviously, with the WWE PPV just a short distance away in New Jersey, that's going to get people wondering.
PWInsider.com can confirm there was WWE interest in Morgan, although whether the two sides have come to terms remains to be seen.

 

[Wheels]

Sign Morgan, Vince; you know you want to sign him.

 

[TX85]

 

[NDX]

I don't even like Morgan and think WWE would be stupid to pass on signing him and debuting him ASAP.

 

[TX85]

Does TNA do 90-day no compete clause like WWE does?

 

[Wheels]

I don't even like Morgan and think WWE would be stupid to pass on signing him and debuting him ASAP.

I'm not a huge either but he's got the size, he's got the athletic ability, and he's got the charisma. It's a no brainer for Vinnie Mac.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I don't know if I want to order WWE No Way Out or not....

 

[DorneyDave]

I won't even be heading down to the local bar to watch No Way Out tonight...too tired. I'm hoping for the Big Johnny storyline to at least become semi-interesting or die tonight for good.

 

[Hunter Rider]

www.PWInsider.com

MATT MORGAN UPDATE
by Mike Johnson @ 2:45 PM on 6/17/2012

TNA star Matt Morgan officially finished up his TNA commitments with this weekend's house shows. At last night's show, Morgan grabbed a sign from a fan at ringside that read, "Going, Going, Gone" and held it up to the crowd. Morgan wrote on Twitter that he was in Connecticut today, where he is originally from. Obviously, with the WWE PPV just a short distance away in New Jersey, that's going to get people wondering.
PWInsider.com can confirm there was WWE interest in Morgan, although whether the two sides have come to terms remains to be seen.

He could show up at the cage match tonight or as Bryan's insurance policy. Although the way Cole and co are commentating on Bryan Vince seems to want him to be seen as a legit guy who can beat anyone.

 

[Wheels]

The question is, would signing Morgan cause problems for WWE in regards to the lawsuit filed by TNA?

 

[bullets]

I just did the pick-ems and I have to say I am unsure on 3 matches.

The stip now added to the cage match seems to indicate that Cena has to win, but that pretty much kills Big Show's push, however if they intend to remove Big Johnny and keep Show relatively strong they could copy the St. Valentine's Day Massacre cage match finish.

AJ has the triple threat all up in the air, but Punk is supposed to be savvy so I'd expect him to spot any swerve coming and be ready.......I wouldn't be shocked to see Bryan win though.
.

I feel the same way. If Cena wins it basically kills the storyline. I don't think Johnny Ace is going anywhere for the time being and Vince might be involved as a heel.

Also AJ is doing to good as a heel and it's likely she would side with Bryan. I'd like to see Bryan win tonight and have Punk chase after the gold.

 

[Superark]

I don't even like Morgan and think WWE would be stupid to pass on signing him and debuting him ASAP.

Ditto. I think he does not know how to work like a big man and his promos tend to be all over the place. I'm not high on the guy, but think in WWE they could change that and reign him in and potentially book him well.

Does TNA do 90-day no compete clause like WWE does?

It doesn't matter in this case because his contract ran up. He's free to do whatever he pleases.

He could show up at the cage match tonight or as Bryan's insurance policy. Although the way Cole and co are commentating on Bryan Vince seems to want him to be seen as a legit guy who can beat anyone.

The cage match would be a good spot, although I'm not sure you'd want to book a guy of Morgan's size in an angle with the Big Show. It tends to take away a bit from the impressive size of Morgan.

If WWE really wanted to get behind Ziggler, I'd book him to come in on Vickie's dime to help her man Dolph beat Sheamus. Morgan could be her new muscle.

The question is, would signing Morgan cause problems for WWE in regards to lawsuit filed by TNA?

Good question. It certainly would not be an ideal time to sign him in light of the lawsuit.

 

[vantheman77]

Matt Morgan's talents are better used in WWE than TNA and for him, it'd be like homecoming. Also, it's reported that he's in Connecticut while the No Way Out PPV is in New Jersey.

Ric Flair is also no longer under contract to TNA as well and we all know that Don West has left TNA to accept a new job in Washington.

I heard former TNA star Amazing Red is backstage at the PPV.

 

[Team Andino]

Does TNA do 90-day no compete clause like WWE does?

Wouldn't that only be if he was released? I don't think it's the same rule for when a contract expires or you've already completed your committed dates.

 

[The Sage]

Kenn Doane, formerly Kenny Dykstra and Kenny from the Spirit Squad, has continued dishing dirt via Twitter regarding John Cena and Mickie James' relationship years ago. Doane, who at one point was engaged to James, says he discovered she had been cheating on him with the Cenation leader when he oversaw her online searching rumors concerning her act of infidelity. James then confessed her unfaithfulness to Doane in a dramatic episode.

"She was googling mickie james and john cena dating. I asked why, she broke down crying. Then I heard more from others. She was checking to see if it was on the net yet," Doane recalls. "I feel bad for magnus. Nice guy dating a .... well u know."

Cena's relationship with James resulted in Doane being transferred from Raw—where Cena and James resided—to SmackDown. The once-promising grappler languished throughout his duration on the blue brand and was ultimately dismissed in November 2008. Doane attributes James' WWE success during her relationship with Cena to the wrestling megstar. The two remained 'friends' as late as May 2009, two months before Cena married his high school sweetheart, Liz Huberdeau. He also corroborated online reports that James was transferred from Raw to SmackDown in November 2009 because she was unable to cope with Cena breaking up with her, thus forcing organization officials to separate the two from each other at work. The move led to her being saddled with the unfavorable 'Piggy James' moniker and her contract being terminated in April 2010.

"He was messing with MJ so I got moved to Smackdown so they could further mess. I jobbed, got fired. When MJ got crazy because he wouldn't date her, she then got fired. Weird biz huh? She got title, on TV show while with him. Serves her well though."

He continues, "She wanted to date him, he said no, she flipped out backstage which led to her demise."

Doane echoed in another response, "When they were together she got the title, TV roles. When he dumped her she became Piggy James, then fired."

Doane also clarifies that Cena and James didn't actually date; but rather, 'they were hooking up.' He also alleges that Cena lied to Huberdeau about his relationship with James: "He denied it all to [her]."

He also feels Cena resents him for disclosing his relationship with James to management. "I made mention of him sleeping with MJ and he probably thought I wouldn't say anything. But I did and he is mad. I guess," he said.

A Twitter user asked Doane what right he has to air his former co-workers' dirty laundry. He responds, "What they do is their biz, but it's also mine when it effects my career and life."

Doane proclaimed several times to his followers that he is being honest with all of his statements as he has no reason to lie. Now that he's settled with another career, he doesn't care whether he's blackballed from WWE.

"If I spoke out it would have ruined my chance of returning to WWE," he explains why he's coming out with these heavy statements after many years. "Now I'm set with what I'm doing and don't care if I get banned."

He adds, "I'm ruining any chance of a WWE return by doing this I'm sure. But it doesn't matter to me."

Despite his airing of Cena's dirty laundry, Doane says he likes him.

"I have no heat towards him. He has heat towards me. I really don't care either way. I'm just being honest," Doane says. "Truthfully I do like john, but if u ask me a question im gonna answer it truthfully. Not my fault he did dumb ****. #youcanthandlethetruth!"

WZ has learned that WWE officials have been discussing several ideas for Ryback at tonight's WWE No Way Out PPV.

Originally, WWE wanted to book Ryback to defeat four wrestlers in a squash match, however Bill DeMott, who recently returned to work for WWE, is pushing for the match to be a 2 man squash utilizing local talent.

WZ has learned that former TNA X-Division Champion Amazing Red is backstage at WWE's No Way Out PPV in New Jersey.

There has been no confirmation that Red will appear on the show, however sources have noted that he was running the ropes in the ring earlier this afternoon.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/341968440.php
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/256459-possible-spoiler-potential-plans-for-ryback-at-no-way-out
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/256455-possible-spoiler-former-tna-star-backstage-at-no-way-out

 

[NDX]

Although the way Cole and co are commentating on Bryan Vince seems to want him to be seen as a legit guy who can beat anyone.

It's the best way to book him. He's gotten over on the fact that he can win. Granted, he was a cheap bastard about many of them, but they were pretty much all him. Giving him backup now would take away from that momentum he's built up.

A recent house show commercial I saw during RAW talked about seeing CM Punk, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan and many more. Maybe because it was advertised for the tri-state area which is big on in-ring product, or maybe he is just that important to the company.

Right now, he's their top heel. Sadly, followed by Kane, Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler.

 

[DorneyDave]

It's the best way to book him. He's gotten over on the fact that he can win. Granted, he was a cheap bastard about many of them, but they were pretty much all him. Giving him backup now would take away from that momentum he's built up.

A recent house show commercial I saw during RAW talked about seeing CM Punk, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan and many more. Maybe because it was advertised for the tri-state area which is big on in-ring product, or maybe he is just that important to the company.

Right now, he's their top heel. Sadly, followed by Kane, Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler.

Is it a SD house show? Punk has been touring with SD! for a little bit now for some reason. Really angers me as it leaves the Raw house shows really shallow for top tier talent...and I'm going to one on Friday. Looks like a Cena vs. Tensai main event for that as of now...

 

[TX85]

I'm pretty worried what the finish to the WWE title match will be based on Punk's tweet rants yesterday before taking them down!