Comics One more day - Benchmark

[Styleshift]

I figured it'd be a good idea to just post my thoughts on the "One more day"
mystery now that some more "clues" have been dropped.

Here we go:

First of all. We know that Mj has a seperate deal with Mephisto.

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Next we see Peter notice Mj at the "Brand new day" party. He seems uneasy about her appearance.

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We see Mj staring at Peter, while everyone is pretty much ignoring her.
Mj is supposed to be the life of a party. That's her personality yet, shes all alone and no one is even hitting on her. (To the knowledge of everyone she's single.) She's also surrounded by couples enjoying themselves.

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Flash asks Peter if things are still "frosty" between the two.
Peter obviously did something that caused the two to break up.

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Next we see Mj sad and she leaves the party. Throughout this whole scene she just seems "misplaced". It's odd for her to want to leave a party. She also does not talk to anyone.

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[Styleshift]

Next we see her return during the peter parker paparazzi arc.
(Yes I remember the faust thing, but Dan Slott later explained in an interview that the artist did it as a joke. What Mj says is interesting though, but also you have to remember this was during the time they wrote the book to insult some of us "internet fans") Take this one with a grain of salt.

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Mj says "this is so not my life" while talking to Bad boy celeb Bobby Carr.
(Probably another jib at the fans)

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During the paper doll attack Bobby tells Mj to hide in the safe room and that the password is her birthday. This signifies that the two have been dating for a while, and that Bobby is serious. (I personally wouldn't do that [password] for a girl unless I really cared about her, and Bobby is definitely more selfish than I am.)

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Next we see the infamous "in another life" scenes. Mj is sad again
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and although we don't see her face this time. She puts her fingers on the screen affectionately towards Spidey.

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It's also interesting to note that she contemplates calling Peter.
(But only after running into Spidey.)

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[Styleshift]

Now we're at ASM 600.
Mj reaches Aunt May's wedding and catches the bouquet. This could be a gesture that the marriage might come back into play, or it could have just been a way to put a big oomph into her return.

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What's really interesting is Peter and Aunt May's reaction to seeing Mj.
Peter gives the same look he gives in ASM 544,

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and aunt may seems some what upset at Anna watson for inviting Mary jane.

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What's even more interesting is before all of this with Mj happened, Aunt May gives Peter a pep talk about being happy.(a scene I really enjoyed)

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And now we have the cover for ASM 601.
Which is really interesting.
Check out how Mj's apartment is set up. One thing that I've enjoyed about Brand new day is the fact that the covers have something to do with the story once again. Instead of the plain covers we were getting during most of JMS' run.
Anyway's it's interesting to note that Mj is very affectionate to peter on the cover even though things are supposed to be frosty. I've heard someone say that they could be friends. But when I first saw this cover, it says to me that Peter is ignoring Mj (swinging past window) and Mj still has strong feelings for him.

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and now we have the ASM 606 cover. Peter is back with the black cat, and Mj is looking on jealously and shocked. Which pretty much confirms what I said earlier.

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I'll be back with my thoughts on this later. I have an errand to run.
I'm sure I have a good theory to share when I return, I would also like to see what everyone else comes up with. All the clues thus far are here.
Discuss.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Does Mary Jane know?

Well.... six months ago I would've said the brain-trust will just quietly (no pun intended) forget about the "whisper", but this group has impressed me with their willingness to embrace continuity, even troublesome continuity (Ben Reilly playing a big part in an arc, the Fantastic Four story where they struggle to remember Peter's face, Liz and Normie Osborn return, etc). So I would say... maybe. I mean, what else could that whisper have been "Yo Mefisty! Throw in a BMW into that deal, Pete won't know, whatchu say, red?"

 

[Meehaul]

I think MJ asked Mephisto to set her up with a nice, juicy part in Ironman 2.

 

[Styleshift]

Does Mary Jane know?

Well.... six months ago I would've said the brain-trust will just quietly (no pun intended) forget about the "whisper", but this group has impressed me with their willingness to embrace continuity, even troublesome continuity (Ben Reilly playing a big part in an arc, the Fantastic Four story where they struggle to remember Peter's face, Liz and Normie Osborn return, etc). So I would say... maybe. I mean, what else could that whisper have been "Yo Mefisty! Throw in a BMW into that deal, Pete won't know, whatchu say, red?"

The whole structure of Brand new day is flawed continuity-wise.
Think about it. How will we refer to Peter's remasking from now on?

"It happened some time between ASM 544-545"
We can't reflect on an issue since the actual event took place off panel.
I personally don't like that at all. Defend it. But that doesn't change anything for me.

I could continue to point out continuity flaws (cause I'm a big continuity geek) But I won't....I have to admit the stories do feel alot tighter now that he is back in the M.U.

But sometimes things still feel off. Especially when they reference the marriage/them dating I mean (because as a reader I know what really happened)
, and I also notice they are VERY careful when referencing more recent stories.

Anyhoo, Me thinks that Mj does not remember everything. Why? There is one way out that I don't think anyone considered.

Peter remasked himself after one more day.
We still don't know what happened in the 100 day gap. He may have tried to remask himself and not tell Mj about it. She may have found out again.
Which may have been the cause for them to break up. Check out how hardcore he was with his secret in the beginning, and now after unmasking to the FF he's kinda cool with others knowing his secret.

Aunt May doesn't know, and she has proven herself to be just as trust worthy as Mj. So why would he tell Mj? I thought this was pretty interesting.

All the clues are pretty darn obvious when you stack them together.
The bad thing is that alot of the mysteries are hard to call, because there are just too many red herrings, or they don't completely follow up on something.

Remember how everyone thought Carlie was going to be Peter's new girl?
They started out with the Vin, Pete, Carlie triangle and NO ONE but Johnny Storm got her. lol

There were a couple of seeds planted that should have put the two together.
Such as peter saying we make a pretty good team, after he unknowingly said it to Mj as Spidey (to which she replies yea we did in another life )

The jackpot mystery had alot of "clues" that didn't pan out.
Menace was pretty straight forward. But I read the issues again and there weren't any clues that I didn't catch first time around.

So yea....I think the whisper may have been a back door to return to regular continuity if sales plummeted. Although it remains to be seen if it really means that she made a deal that affects Peter's reactions towards her.

He has seemed like a total idiot since 544. She obviously has feelings for him and he's ignores them. Even in the two covers I posted (601 and 606)

Maybe she felt that Peter has suffered so much in his life. He puts up with so much that she didn't want him to suffer if he ever had to lose her for good (since they can never be married again, or since mephisto took their love or whatever.) I think her side deal affects Peter's feelings towards her.

 

[Themanofbat]

The whole structure of Brand new day is flawed continuity-wise.
Think about it. How will we refer to Peter's remasking from now on?

"It happened some time between ASM 544-545"
We can't reflect on an issue since the actual event took place off panel.
I personally don't like that at all. Defend it. But that doesn't change anything for me.

We've seen this style of storytelling in ASM once before... between ASM #251 & 252, Peter changed to the black costume... we didn't know anything about it (as far as how he got it) until Secret Wars #8, which was 8 months later.

Nowadays, people can refer to SW #8 as far as when he got the costume, and I suspect in the near future, we will reference an ASM comic when the "remasking" comes into play.

Having said that... you can still not like it...

 

[Styleshift]

We've seen this style of storytelling in ASM once before... between ASM #251 & 252, Peter changed to the black costume... we didn't know anything about it (as far as how he got it) until Secret Wars #8, which was 8 months later.

Nowadays, people can refer to SW #8 as far as when he got the costume, and I suspect in the near future, we will reference an ASM comic when the "remasking" comes into play.

Having said that... you can still not like it...

Nope. I love that issue, even though it's kind of mediocre.
They spend the first part explaining where Peter was, and not only that he says that he was on another planet.



Near the end it is explicitly shown that "something" is wrong with his new costume. Since it takes him out for joy rides during his sleep.

It even says go to secret wars (a HUGE marvel event for the actual time he obtains the symbiote)

With One more day we've only got "well I made a mental block within the 100 days after one more day." Even with Aunt may's house being built. We have to refer to the 100 days (although thats kind of minor to me. I don't mind off screen things as long as they aren't directly associated with Peter)

I can see where you are coming from. But most likely there will not be an issue we can reference where Peter actually obtains his remasking. Only when it is explained. That's why so many people still think Mephisto did it. That everything now is a result of OMD.
I'm thinking of the future, after all is said and done. I'm kinda bored with complaining about the hear and now.

Oh yeah....
If you ever wondered how I come up with these scans so fast, well for one I have a the 40 years CD, and since I'm a super dork.
I scan my comics and I store them on Cd so I can read em without damaging my books. Which are nicely wrapped in a plastic cover and a white board.

Time consuming but it works wonders. All of them look brand new.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I thought that it was very well known that in the deal that Peter would have no knowledge, those around him would have no knowledge, but that Mary Jane would still have the memories of her time with Peter and she was the only one. Thought that was part of Mephisto...well...being a nasty horrible jerk face since he is the devil and all.

Or am I just fabricating that?

 

[Styleshift]

I thought that it was very well known that in the deal that Peter would have no knowledge, those around him would have no knowledge, but that Mary Jane would still have the memories of her time with Peter and she was the only one. Thought that was part of Mephisto...well...being a nasty horrible jerk face since he is the devil and all.

Or am I just fabricating that?

Close. The original deal was for them not to remember their marriage.
They would retain all memories and everything still happened.

But instead they were supposed to only remember that they were just living together.

Although it remains to be seen what Mj whispered into Mephistos ear.

I have a friend that claims he zoomed in on that garbled mess and in the center it said "remember everything".

I think he's full of it.

EDIT: It's a theory but I didn't include it because I tried using deductive reasoning.
Look at my first 3 posts and you'll notice I used what we know instead of discussing any possible theories. My final conclusion was based on things that aren't immediately obvious.

 

[Venom 1988]

Great topic Styleshift

 

[SpideyInATree]

Close. The original deal was for them not to remember their marriage.
They would retain all memories and everything still happened.

But instead they were supposed to only remember that they were just living together.

Although it remains to be seen what Mj whispered into Mephistos ear.

I have a friend that claims he zoomed in on that garbled mess and in the center it said "remember everything".

I think he's full of it.

EDIT: It's a theory but I didn't include it because I tried using deductive reasoning.
Look at my first 3 posts and you'll notice I used what we know instead of discussing any possible theories. My final conclusion was based on things that aren't immediately obvious.

From what I remember from that first issue of Brand New Day that instead of the two getting married they just broke up with each other around that time period. He still met her and knew her while dating Gwen. Still had a romance with her but they just never got married and all those adventures that he had while they were married still happened but Peter just doesn't remember being married to Mary Jane.

Though...that leaves many holes because there were various adventures where he got that extra something by pushing himself to get back to Mary Jane. However, they could always explain that he was doing it to get back to his Aunt.

 

[Styleshift]

Great topic Styleshift

Thanks

From what I remember from that first issue of Brand New Day that instead of the two getting married they just broke up with each other around that time period. He still met her and knew her while dating Gwen. Still had a romance with her but they just never got married and all those adventures that he had while they were married still happened but Peter just doesn't remember being married to Mary Jane.

Though...that leaves many holes because there were various adventures where he got that extra something by pushing himself to get back to Mary Jane. However, they could always explain that he was doing it to get back to his Aunt.

True.
I just try to justify it in my head that everything happened, and they were married until recently.

Now they don't properly remember their past. Since everyone is looking at OMD differently, that makes the mystery surrounding it a little hard to call.

This retcon really makes the book feel like a DC book.

I'm trying not to dislike Brand new day.
I actually don't mind a single Peter...as long as the continuity works and the story is good. I'm not a fan of Peter's love life. But as long as he's Peter Parker, and he puts responsibility first. That's Spidey.

The route I would have taken to make him single again would have been different.

Just make Peter and Mj's marriage license invalid. Have them find this out, (maybe even throw in Harry in the mix as being the mastermind behind it.)

Than force Mj to leave Peter through all of the stress.
There have been a few times we've seen her tempted by other men.
It makes sense for her to rethink her situation of staying with Peter. If written well enough.

That would have worked, and it would have made sense.
Oh well.

At least I can look forward to the stories in the coming here. I know I said I'd drop it after 600 but thats before I saw the preview.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
Great topic my man.
If you haven't already, check out BND Yearbook

It gives a detailed recap of the first year of events. I like your detective work and for what it's worth, that's part of the fun of reading a Marvel comic. They are serialized and you are not supposed to know the whole story in one or two issues.Green Goblin appeared in Amazing #14, we didn't know he was Norman Osborn until #39.
BTW-I also think your friend is full of it when he says he can tell what MJ said to Mephisto.Talk about Inquiring minds wanting to know
Spidey rules with mystery

 

[stillanerd]

Thank you very much for tracking down and organizing these clues, Styleshift.

And I agree. I believe that the cause of Peter and MJ's break-up as according to Brand New Day was indeed that she found out about the mindwipe.

I believe it goes something like this: Initially, like everyone else, had the knowledge that Peter was Spider-Man was erased from her memory. The consequence of this is that she no longer knows the reason why the her boyfriend keeps leaving and making excuses all the time. What's he up to? she wonders. Is he seeing someone else? Does he love me anymore? When she decided to confront him with this, she accidentally finds Spider-Man, maybe tired after fighting a supervillain, unmask while in his Spider-Man costume and thus she remembers everything.

And this pissed her off. Because she realizes that Peter, tampered with her mind and his Aunt May's without either of their consent, which as far as she was concerned was a violation of their trust and love. Even though he may have done this for the best of intentions, he had no right as far as she was concerned, to do this to the people he loved. Therefore, she broke off their engagement, packed her bags, and left for L.A. vowing to put everything behind her--hence why not even her closest friends in New York could even get in touch with her and why she refused to see any of them, because the pain for her love for Peter and that sense of betrayal was too much. There was a few times in which she had second thoughts, regretted leaving, and attempted to make amends (hence the scene that Harry's party and the attempted phone calls) but she never got up the nerve.

Bobby Carr (who I imagine she might have met while on a movie set) filled a void and started seeing him, both as a form of escapism, but also because she may have seen a bit of Peter in him, and thought he wasn't all bad. Only she never intended to get as far and as deep into the relationship has he obviously has. When she saw Peter as Spider-Man again, she realized that, despite all she blamed him for and attempting to put everything behind her, she still deeply cared for him and that she was just running away from difficulties like she always did whenever she felt cornered. Furthermore, she realizes that her relationship with Carr, while she probably thought he was sweet, was also just another form of running away.

As a result, she's been trying to put distance between herself and Carr ever since, not having the heart to tell him that she doesn't want a serious relationship with him anymore. Then along comes Jonah's pitch to economically boost New York by having swimsuit models as part of the promotional campaign, and perhaps is what gives MJ the excuse she needs to not only try to brake things off with Carr, but to then reconcile things with Peter and, at the very least, salvage their friendship.

This, of course, sets the stage for a possible long running subplot involving Carr not only being jealous of Peter--whom he already dislikes because of his stint as a paparazzi--but becoming overly protective of "his girl," unable to let go of MJ because he's convinced himself she's "the one." Maybe it gets to the point where he's practically stalking her and trying everything he can to make Peter's life a living hell. And after all, he's a famous celebrity. He's rich and famous. Peter's just a low-life guttersniping photographer. And he's used to getting what he wants and besides, he loves MJ, more than this Peter Parker does. She can't possibly be still in love with a jerk like him, he tells himself.

As for where the whole whisper to Mephisto fits in? Well, perhaps she told him "let me still remember Peter Parker is Spider-Man" rather than "Let me remember everything." Then, theoretically, this could be allowed to happen but not have Mephisto's direct involvement. Just like, it seems, other things were allowed to happen that didn't involve Mephisto, since Mephisto's deal would have essentially negated itself since it required Peter and MJ to be married. And since they made not to be married, then no deal, technically, ever took place.

 

[Ultimate Kaine]

Styleshift has quickly become my favorite poster here. I love his recaps w/screenies.

 

[kguillou]

Why oh why is Marvel letting these OMD subplots linger on? Its just silly at this point. Now that MJ is back, all everybody is going to be talking about is "What does MJ remember about OMD??".

 

[Donald Thomas]

Why oh why is Marvel letting these OMD subplots linger on? Its just silly at this point. Now that MJ is back, all everybody is going to be talking about is "What does MJ remember about OMD??".

Aloha,
I think you just answered you own question.We WANT TO KNOW.Stay tuned. Same Spider time-Same Spider station
One thing we should all remember. At NO TIME in the history of The Amazing Spider-Man have the plots and sub plots been thought out this far in advanced. There were no Spider-Man summits during the days of Lee,Ditko or Romita. While we the fans may be chomping at the bit trying to figure out the next clues-the Web Heads (former Brain trust) have Amazing figured out for the next year including how Amazing will tie into the new Web of Spider-Man.
Spidey rules

 

[Styleshift]

Aloha,
Great topic my man.
If you haven't already, check out BND Yearbook

It gives a detailed recap of the first year of events. I like your detective work and for what it's worth, that's part of the fun of reading a Marvel comic. They are serialized and you are not supposed to know the whole story in one or two issues.Green Goblin appeared in Amazing #14, we didn't know he was Norman Osborn until #39.
BTW-I also think your friend is full of it when he says he can tell what MJ said to Mephisto.Talk about Inquiring minds wanting to know
Spidey rules with mystery

Thank you!
The Hobgoblin mystery was even worse. Alot of red herrings and what not, but that helped to make it interesting.

It's a shame that when I actually went back and read the stories (Which were excellent) that the actual identity of the hobgoblin was spoiled by Rodrick Kingsley. (Who has made an appearance in Spectacular Spider-man )

Thank you very much for tracking down and organizing these clues, Styleshift.

No problem stillanerd, and thanks.

And I agree. I believe that the cause of Peter and MJ's break-up as according to Brand New Day was indeed that she found out about the mindwipe.

It's the only curveball that I see that everyone wouldn't see coming.
People are so fed up with OMD that they are losing themselves in it.
I mean just last year everyone thought her deal was to become a superhero.


You make alot of sense, (I had to cut most of your post for length)
You also made me realize that the whole 90s reboot era does not work in brand new day. The whole reason for that was she wanted Peter to settle down and stop being Spider-man. Girls don't usually do that until after they are married. When shes dating someone that has "dangerous work" they tend to let it slide because that's how they were when they met them and they can't change it. I dunno I really see Mj respecting the webs. (if they were supposed to have been dating)

Also when Mj is "killed" in the "plane accident". He gets her belongings and inside was her wedding ring. (They officially said they were dating. So there was no ring)

I know some people are like "these are comics, get over it". I love continuity, it's why I'm a hardcore Spidey fan. Some people are like "things still make sense. it's just that they were never married".

But it's a bunch of BS

there are ALOT of stories in the last 20 years that just do not make sense if you go back and read them. Especially the clone saga stuff where Peter and Mj were getting more serious with there marriage. (such as moving to portland) I know some people choose not to get married, but that's just not how they were written.

Alot of stories have to be referenced differently now, and they are very careful over which stories they reference and how they reference them. Such as when Peter says he was dating Mj during the kraven's first hunt arc, and when they referenced things during the clone saga annual.

I just think they really neutered the stories they could tell because of what they did. Now there is a whole lot of stories that are just going to be really awkward when you go back to the issues they reference and see what really happened.

*SIGH* This is why I justify ASM as an "alternate" universe or a "vol. 2".
I really don't think they know what they are doing. Their kinda like "ok suspend your belief even more....yea just go along with this."'
I miss the days when I used to criticize superman's magic glasses. Well....that's what I get.

Bobby Carr (who I imagine she might have met while on a movie set) filled a void and started seeing him, both as a form of escapism, but also because she may have seen a bit of Peter in him, and thought he wasn't all bad. Only she never intended to get as far and as deep into the relationship has he obviously has. When she saw Peter as Spider-Man again, she realized that, despite all she blamed him for and attempting to put everything behind her, she still deeply cared for him and that she was just running away from difficulties like she always did whenever she felt cornered. Furthermore, she realizes that her relationship with Carr, while she probably thought he was sweet, was also just another form of running away.

Hit it on the head. I couldn't have said it better myself.

This, of course, sets the stage for a possible long running subplot involving Carr not only being jealous of Peter--whom he already dislikes because of his stint as a paparazzi--but becoming overly protective of "his girl," unable to let go of MJ because he's convinced himself she's "the one." Maybe it gets to the point where he's practically stalking her and trying everything he can to make Peter's life a living hell. And after all, he's a famous celebrity. He's rich and famous. Peter's just a low-life guttersniping photographer. And he's used to getting what he wants and besides, he loves MJ, more than this Peter Parker does. She can't possibly be still in love with a jerk like him, he tells himself.

Haven't considered that. That would be really interesting.
A while back I considered that they were going to try something like "Mj is torn between two men" (Peter/Spidey) since I took the "nobody remembers who Spider-man is" thing pretty seriously. If that still turns out to be right.
Than I guess those "webheads" are smoking dope in the "braintrust".

As for where the whole whisper to Mephisto fits in? Well, perhaps she told him "let me still remember Peter Parker is Spider-Man" rather than "Let me remember everything." Then, theoretically, this could be allowed to happen but not have Mephisto's direct involvement. Just like, it seems, other things were allowed to happen that didn't involve Mephisto, since Mephisto's deal would have essentially negated itself since it required Peter and MJ to be married. And since they made not to be married, then no deal, technically, ever took place.

That wouldn't fly, because it all happened before he remasked himself.
Mephisto said everything would happen except that they were married.
(I guess that includes the wedding ring I mentioned earlier )

Styleshift has quickly become my favorite poster here. I love his recaps w/screenies.

Thank you very much. As long as people keep letting me know they appreciate it than I'll continue to do it. I don't do it for nothin! lol

I'll also take requests if I have time.

 

[Themanofbat]

It could have read as a "promise" ring...

 

[Styleshift]

It could have read as a "promise" ring...

Really?
Could of....would of...should of....did it?
They cannot clean up all of the messes they created unless they return continuity to normal. Especially with the last 10 years of stories. (Like or dislike it, it still happened. If people want some of us to accept OMD they have to accept what came before also)

Think about this for instance.

They have broken up now. Why didn't Peter date anyone during there "separation"? He's already had several different love interests since BND started.
If you really take a look at this and during the JMS era you can really see the difference of how he would act if he were really single.

How does EVERYTHING still fit if they were just a couple?

Couples don't separate. They agree to see other people.

A promise ring doesn't necessarily clean up the matter either.
Especially if they had already decided before hand not to get married.

I know continuity cannot be perfect, but these are huge changes they are just saying go along with.

Sure most of the Spidey stuff still works.
But alot of Peter Parkers social life for the past 20 years is REALLY screwed up if you go back and read it.

 

[Themanofbat]

They have broken up now. Why didn't Peter date anyone during their "separation"? He's already had several different love interests since BND started.

Just because there have been "potential" women for Peter to date doesn't necessarily mean that he has to jump on top of all of them... that would be out of character. He's just come down from a very long relationship... probably the euivalent to 5 years, given the old 50 issues = 1 year Marvel scale... Peter's not a "playa"... he's not ready to be with others in a serious way...

If you really take a look at this and during the JMS era you can really see the difference of how he would act if he were really single.

How does EVERYTHING still fit if they were just a couple?

Couples don't separate. They agree to see other people.

But he wasn't single during the JMS era... this part of your post has me really confused, because according to what we now know (and have always known), they were a committed yet unmarried couple since 1987... so his behaviour during the JMS era, when he was with MJ, fits very well to a young man in a committed relationship.

I've know an unmarried couple that have been together since 1972 (that 37+ years folks), and are more in love with each other than most "married" couples I know of... and if they parted ways, it would be devastating for both parties and all of their friends... I don't see this being any different than what Peter & MJ went through...

Everybody likes to paint this holy image of the sanctimony of marriage, but marriage, or simply being together, is the result of two people loving each other and making efforts to work with one another to make the arrangement work.

If marriage was such a magnificent thing that every claims it is, why is it that more than half the marriages in the US end up in divorse? Did these people not "love" each other "more" than non-married couples because they were married? Of course not... that's just friggin' silly....

Whether you're married or simply living together comes down to the efforts both parties are willing to put into it... and a vow to god makes little to no difference on whether it's a "better" love... it's just a fancy show for friends and family and a reason to eat cake.

I love my wife, and I love being married to her. But it's hard work sometimes... just like it was hard work before we were married but living together... and we are no more committed to one another since the marriage than we were before...

I dunno... maybe we don't see eye to eye on this because of our age difference and experiences...

A promise ring doesn't necessarily clean up the matter either.
Especially if they had already decided before hand not to get married.

I know continuity cannot be perfect, but these are huge changes they are just saying go along with.

Sure most of the Spidey stuff still works.
But alot of Peter Parkers social life for the past 20 years is REALLY screwed up if you go back and read it.

I agree with you on the importance of continuity... I'm one of the bigger continuity buffs on board... and thus far, the new creative teams are making a great effort to make it work, and I'm really pleased about this... will it explain EVERY LITTLE THING in the last 20 years? Probably not... but as a whole, if they make it work.... fabulous.

Cheers...

Mike

 

[Styleshift]

I don't even care about this book anymore.
I really don't.

 

[The Bruce]

Well be as it may I still enjoy reading this alot more than JMS Spidey. After the first arc the book went down hill.