Apocalypse Oscar Isaac IS Apocalypse - Part 1

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I get not liking a costume design but I think fanboys take that dislike too far. What matters is the performance, the film isn't going to suck or rock based solely on costume design. And this is coming from someone whom hates Singer's design choices 90% of the time, I'd never dismiss his films because of that though. I've seen people say that they think the movie is going to suck because they dislike Apocalypse's design and that's just silly fanboy nonsense.

Totally true. And after QS (which got way more hate) people should have learned by now.

But at the same time this is all fans have for now. And if the design doesn't meet expectations, the complaints will come. This is nothing new. I don't understand the surprise by this behavior personally. These debates seem to always go around in circles with stuff like this.

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People have been complaining about not getting comic-accurate costumes in the X-Men movies since day one. Now, that we're finally getting them, people are still complaining. Jubilee, Psylocke and Storm are identical to their comic book counterparts. Even if Apocalypse isn't identical, he's still pretty damn faithful.

Not really, he looks much more based off the Archangel UXF run as pointed out on the previous page above. I think he actually looks like a blue David Warner from Tron on the front of the EW cover.

Who gives a **** if some people don't like it. As right as I See Spidey is on the subject, there's this other side that has a difficult time accepting criticism in general. Yeah, fans wanted an accurate Psylcoke and I'm more then stoked with what we got and personally don't understand the complaints. But then again, I remember a ton of posts earlier this year by plenty of fans who wanted the modern Psylocke outfit cause they thought it was much more practical and respectful. Everyone has their reasons.
 
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****, fanboys are *****ing that Psylocke's look is too cosplay, even though it's an exact replica. They dont' know what they want.
Well, no it's not an exact replica, and half the costume looks does like cheap cosplay.
In the mind of a Fanboy: If it ain't Marvel Studios version of being "accurate" and "faithful", then it is not faithful at all and it deserves all the hate and criticism.
Not true at all.
As someone who loves the Fox X-Men movies involving Bryan Singer, as a fan of Sony's TASM movies, and as someone who doesn't think the new FF movie looks like ****, I highly disagree with this assessment.
X-Men has had two bad films, but MCU has had Iron Man 2, a film so bad that it's like those two in every respect.
Except Iron Man 2 wasn't bad at all.
 
Totally true. And after QS (which got way more hate) people should have learned by now.

But at the same time this is all fans have for now. And if the design doesn't meet expectations, the complaints will come. This is nothing new. I don't understand the surprise by this behavior personally. These debates seem to always go around in circles with stuff like this.



Not really, he looks much more based off the Archangel UXF run as pointed out above. I think he actually looks like a blue David Warner from Tron on the front of the EW cover.

Who gives a **** if some people don't like it. As right as I See Spidey is on the subject, at the same time I don't get why people have such a difficult time accepting criticism in general. Yeah, fans wanted an accurate Psylcoke and I'm more then stoked with what we got and personally don't understand the complaints. But then again, I remember a ton of posts earlier this year by plenty of fans who wanted the modern Psylocke outfit cause they thought it was much more practical and respectful. Everyone has their reasons.
You are correct that complaints about costumes/character designs isn't anything new.
 
Happens all the time, but like you said the performance is always what sells when it comes down to it. Many designs from all franchises have grabbed the fans approval quickly after the first midnight showings despite having a negative first reaction.
 
You know what I find hilarious? People moaning for costumes on the X-Men like were in the comics? You get it in Psylocke and suddenly it looks terrible? Why, the main proper reason outside of just stupid excuses is that it looks out of context with the X-Men movies. Apparently Apocalypse looks terrible because it is different? Do you really think your reaction would have been any different if Oscar Isaac was playing an eight foot monster the size of Dwayne Johnson in 1997? No, you would have hated it because it would not work for the context of the film.

Let's face it, as serious as films like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man were, they were still majorly dependent on comedy. So you tell me, in a universe that is full of camp is it surprising that we got Thanos the way he was? Yeah, you can chalk it up and say that maybe it wasn't because of tone, but rather because of him being an alien. No, it was because it worked because of the tone of the films. Apocalypse being a giant eight foot bodybuilder juiced up steroid mutant will not work in the context of a film like this. There are no aliens in this universe, this universe used to be dystopian Groddamn it!

Sure you can say it looks like Ivan Ooze whoever the **** that is, but you can also try and be positive, right? Remember Quicksilver? Remember Anne Hathaway's Catwoman? Remember Heath Ledger's Joker? Remember Michael Keaton's Batman? Fanboys and fangirls have always been overtly negative, but the internet has taken this to a whole new low. The Undertaker returned in WWE the other day and people live loved it. It was practically the greatest thing ever, him brawling it out with Brock Lesnar. Damn was that good. Then you go on the Internet and you see people trashing Undertaker for acting the way he did, not retiring, interfering in a match, blah, blah. Overall, just being negative with the way the WWE telecast drama, even though it is scripted like Daredevil and meant to be enjoyed in the same respects, was happening. Now that was a vocal minority. It has always been vocal minorities that have been negative.

The Anti-Oriental riots in Canada were started by a negative vocal minority. White Canada Forever was the product of a vocal minority. Yes, negativity existed before, but what happens when you take several vocal minorities and put them together? It isn't a minority anymore, it is a forum on the internet. Can we stop being so negative? You're going to love the movie. Who cares if it isn't set in the MCU? It looks very good, it is well made, has a good director who has proven himself time and time again and is now at the point where he shouldn't need to prove himself to you.

Remember when Oscar Isaac asked the ComicCon 2015 crowd if they thought Apocalypse looked cool? Resounding cheers everywhere, I know. Go online and there's people *****ing about the look. Mind my language and mods I apologize, but this needs to stop. Criticism is not saying it sucks because it doesn't look like it does in the comics. That is your opinion, and one that has, I repeat, been changed over and over again. Criticism is saying that you did not like Isaac's voice because it did not have an Egytpian enough accent to it. Yet his voice was great! Everything about him seemed great and then I go online after ComicCon and there are people complaining.

Yes, 20th Century Fox is making this movie for money. Yet it has been proved that actors tend to listen to directors over than producers, why? They are entertainers who want to entertain you. 20th Century Fox may be putting money into this project for a profit, but I assure you that the cast and crew are doing this for you. If somebody is doing something nice for you, you should really be nice back. I'm appalled at the negativity, just appalled. The vocal minority is always putting their opinion and trying to make it fact. Look, if you don't like the fact that he is like that, fine, just don't go around saying that it will be horrible, terrible just because he isn't a garantuan monster. No, just say you don't like it. Don't bury the film just because it decided to make an aesthetic change. Remember, all of these characters are just lines on paper and are not defined by appearance, but by the action the writer makes them do. If the actions stay true to what Louise Simonson, Chris Claremont and the artists perceived him as doing it doesn't really matter what he looks like if he stays true to the character, right?

I'm not trying to change your minds here, I'm not trying to offend you and I'm sorry and sincerely apologize if I did. All I ask is that instead of bashing the film, everybody simply just acts more positive. Please, we need you to hope again.

Now, with that said, I hope people stay positive like they have so far on Page 3.

Great thoughtful post then you had to ruin in with massive amounts of corny :pal:
 
This purple man looks good to me. Isaac is a magnificent actor.

Olivia Munn looks good as Rita tho.

Hnnngh.
 
Man, I totally get it. You probably were making this exact same argument back in '88 when Michael Keaton was cast as Batman. Where is the height? Where are the muscles?

And we all know how that ended up...

With an amazing and iconic performance.

Huh!? Common man. Keaton and Batman are what, maybe 3 inches apart. Isaacs and Apoc are what 5 feet apart? Lets be real. Marvel did it correctly with Thanos. CGI because its necessary. Apoc won't be right without at least the same amount of CGI as Thanos.
 
Im not a fan of the look theyve given him.

I prefer the cosplay version attached. If they could have done a higher budget version of that, Id have been over the moon.

Excellent!!!!! I'd be ecstatic with this look! Please singer, make the freaking changes.
 
They won't make a change because of some fanboys crying and dislike of the appearance. What's done is done and what they're doing is their version. Can people not like it? Of course. But don't try to say that some fan manips made by people crying because they don't like it will reach production people on the film and make them change their minds. Let's be realistic here.

Ironic that your now crying at fan manips that dont matter at all.
 
The thing about that cosplay is that it only looks ok from a small assortment of angles and heavy photoshop and filtering.
 
Watched Ex-Machina again today, Oscar Isaac can be pretty intimidating, shame about the odd costume choice though.
 
Huh!? Common man. Keaton and Batman are what, maybe 3 inches apart. Isaacs and Apoc are what 5 feet apart? Lets be real. Marvel did it correctly with Thanos. CGI because its necessary. Apoc won't be right without at least the same amount of CGI as Thanos.
You sound like a broken record.
 
Felt like this should be re-shared to current page.
I suspect that Oscar's Apocalypse look drew a lot of influence from Jerome Opena's Archangel/heir of Apocalypse redesign from X-Force's The Dark Angel Saga.

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It's going to be a loooong 10 months...
 
Are we sure that that is the final look and that it wont be cgi'd afterwards.

Seems strange they can get everyone else's look right and not him. Comics do a lot of work on making their characters look unique. The look is part of what makes some popular and others less so, it is as much a part of the characters identity as his back story and character. They shouldn't change it without good reason.
 
Except they did get his look right.

They're not going to overly cgi him when his costume looks like that, sorry to break it to you all.
 
Are we sure that that is the final look and that it wont be cgi'd afterwards.

Seems strange they can get everyone else's look right and not him. Comics do a lot of work on making their characters look unique. The look is part of what makes some popular and others less so, it is as much a part of the characters identity as his back story and character. They shouldn't change it without good reason.

If they released it as part of a cover, the look is pretty much done. There may be some small tweaks via CGI, but there doesn't seem to be anything major.

But again, shapeshifter.
 
Granted if we got Oscar looking like the Animated Series Apocalypse standing around in a skintight purple-ish suit and speechifying (particularly with certain lines like, "I am Apocalypse. Look upon the future and tremble") that would look equally cartoony and ridiculous.

It'll cool to get a shapeshifter though. We haven't gotten one that's been as manipulative as Apocalypse is supposed to be in the films. He's gonna unleash hell and he'll be fine.
 
First off Bryan Singer sadly is not one for accuracy when it comes to comics. We all know this from X-men and Superman Returns. He's got something wrong with his noggin or some less then wise aids.

Now CGI? Unless that are going General Zod on this. Anything they add would have to be something the actor couldn't wear or act well in. Given how much they put on him, I doubt it.

Though why they made his lips so damn invisible is beyond me. That's like making Supermans S really small and the red damn near brown. Only a fool would do that.
 
Except they did get his look right.

They're not going to overly cgi him when his costume looks like that, sorry to break it to you all.

Except thats your opinion, shared by some, but not shared by many others. See watch. They didn't get the look right at all. he looks like trash. Your entitled to your opinion and thats fine. I and many others are entitled to our own opinions.
 
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