Our "Space Princess": David Corenswet IS Clark Kent/Superman!

[elgaz]

All for Hoult playing Lex.

Superman? Nooooooooooooooooo. He gives me zero Superman vibes. He's a good actor but just has that perky, mature art student kind of look and his voice doesn't do it for me either. Coronswet ticks a lot more boxes in that respect.

Say what you want about the characterisation flaws and even the acting abilities of some of the previous stars, but Routh/Welling/Reeve/Cavill/etc all looked like they belonged in that suit.

 

[GreenKToo]

Superman has a certain look. Tall, built, square jaw, black hair, blue eyes.
And he should have an "aww shucks" attitude.

To try and think outside the box and cast someone that makes the fans and public go wtf? is to invite disaster.

He not only NEEDS to look the part, he NEEDS to act the part.

 

[squeekness]

All for Hoult playing Lex.

Superman? Nooooooooooooooooo. He gives me zero Superman vibes. He's a good actor but just has that perky, mature art student kind of look and his voice doesn't do it for me either. Coronswet ticks a lot more boxes in that respect.

Say what you want about the characterisation flaws and even the acting abilities of some of the previous stars, but Routh/Welling/Reeve/Cavill/etc all looked like they belonged in that suit.

Agreed. Hault doesn't have the same oomph, lol.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Where is this audition video of Person Fonebone playing Superman? I really want to see this guy make an idiot out of himself.

 

[jetage]

I watched it on his IG page, in the tagged section.

 

[Boom]

Where is this audition video of Person Fonebone playing Superman? I really want to see this guy make an idiot out of himself.

Looks like it got taken down.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Lol. Oh, well.

 

[jetage]

Still in the tagged section of his instagram page

 

[Deck Rickard]

Ah yeah I see it. Damn, flying around on that mechanical arm looks like fun!

 

[flickchick85]

Did he kill someone?

 

[DKDetective]

I would call that blue more than purple? Which one of us is color blind?!?!?

Never fight with a gay man about colour, you will lose!

 

[Iceman]

Superman has a certain look. Tall, built, square jaw, black hair, blue eyes.
And he should have an "aww shucks" attitude.

To try and think outside the box and cast someone that makes the fans and public go wtf? is to invite disaster.

He not only NEEDS to look the part, he NEEDS to act the part.

Preferably act the part offscreen as well for me. No more Dean Cains.

 

[Sawyer]

Superman has a certain look. Tall, built, square jaw, black hair, blue eyes.

I could honestly give a rat’s ass what color his eyes are. If we get a great actor who happens to have green/brown eyes, under no circumstances should be put him in blue contacts out of fidelity to the comics. That’s how we got Routh looking so freakish in SR.

 

[flickchick85]

Reminder that Superman's eyes were just a couple of black dots for decades.

 

[Lily Adler]

Reminder that Superman's eyes were just a couple of black dots for decades.

 

[7heBoss]

Reminder that Superman's eyes were just a couple of black dots for decades.

Superman with blue eyes 1941

 

[flickchick85]

Superman with blue eyes 1941

And? You really gonna make me dig up comic panels for the first 40 years, or trust that there were more "black dot" instances than anything else?

This is who Joe Shuster originally drew:

And this is how he drew him decades later....

Considering his basic features look like he could've been an idealized version of both his creators....

And the fact that they made his story a Jewish immigrant story, and the fact that they had Superman describe himself as "non-Aryan" in one early issue, makes me think maybe, just maybe, at one point, they intended his eyes to be brown. Who's to say.

Point is, several artists continued on with the "black dot" approach after Shuster as well. The blue eyes didn't really become "The Standard" until Reeve made them iconic. Kirk Alyn and George Reeves didn't have blue eyes either.

Curt Swan mostly drew him with black dot eyes UNTIL Reeve came along, and then more of his post Reeve art featured blue dots instead (which probably would've been the colorists' doing).

 

[7heBoss]

You made it sound as if his eye color was always unknown and undocumented "for decades". I was just showing that 3 years in Superman was shown, unambiguously, to have blue eyes.

Using black dots as eyes is more a result from the simplicity of the art style. They also don't draw individual teeth, but one can assume that he likely he had them. So it would be reasonable to assert that his eyes likely had a color. It isn't like they made the creative decision to be like, "Yeah, Superman's eyes are black!"

It was also more than likely a limitation of the time's printing technology. You couldn't draw with super fine detail and expect it to make it to the page.

I'm just saying that when zoomed into his face, his eyes were verified at a very early stage of his existence to be blue. It would be dishonest to try and say it was just some detail they invented 30-40 years in.

 

[flickchick85]

You made it sound as if his eye color was always unknown and undocumented "for decades". I was just showing that 3 years in Superman was shown, unambiguously, to have blue eyes.

Using black dots as eyes is more a result from the simplicity of the art style. They also don't draw individual teeth, but one can assume that he likely he had them. So it would be reasonable to assert that his eyes likely had a color. It isn't like they made the creative decision to be like, "Yeah, Superman's eyes are black!"

It was also more than likely a limitation of the time's printing technology. You couldn't draw with super fine detail and expect it to make it to the page.

I'm just saying that when zoomed into his face, his eyes were verified at a very early stage of his existence to be blue. It would be dishonest to try and say it was just some detail they invented 30-40 years in.

I never said no one ever made his eyes blue until 30-40 years in. I said they were drawn as black dots for decades, which they were. And remained that way long after any "limitations of the printing technology." Like I said, Curt Swan was still doing it decades later. The Fleischer team made them blue for a shot. Ok? That doesn't mean it was the prevailing standard in all that time. And it's "dishonest" to pretend it was.

 

[7heBoss]

I never said no one ever made his eyes blue until 30-40 years in. I said they were drawn as black dots for decades, which they were. And remained that way long after any "limitations of the printing technology." Like I said, Curt Swan was still doing it decades later. The Fleischer team made them blue for a shot. Ok? That doesn't mean it was the prevailing standard in all that time. And it's "dishonest" to pretend it was.

You didn't say "...Superman's eyes were MOSTLY just a couple of black dots for decades." So, the omission, to me, comes off as a declaration that his were never anything other than black dots for decades.

But all that is irrelevant. I'm not trying to deny that they were traditionally drawn as black dots, I can see that they were. I am just pointing out the irrefutable fact that his eyes were confirmed to be blue very early. Whether they were drawn with the detail to show it or not is irrelevant. The truth remains that Superman's actual eye color was, in fact, blue. Since at least 1941.

 

[flickchick85]

You didn't say "...Superman's eyes were MOSTLY just a couple of black dots for decades." So, the omission, to me, comes off as a declaration that his were never anything other than black dots for decades.

But all that is irrelevant. I'm not trying to deny that they were traditionally drawn as black dots, I can see that they were. I am just pointing out the irrefutable fact that his eyes were confirmed to be blue very early. Whether they were drawn with the detail to show it or not is irrelevant. The truth remains that Superman's actual eye color was, in fact, blue. Since at least 1941.

"Confirmed" to be blue. That's the wording I take issue with. They were drawn by one creative team, that were NOT his creators, to be blue one time. One interpretation made them blue. A bunch of others didn't, nor did his live-action portrayers in those days. There's no "confirmed to be" anything. It is not a foundational trait of the character. It came along after his creation, and didn't become standard in the artwork until Chris Reeve came along. The eye color of whoever is chosen to play Superman is BEYOND irrelevant. And I say this as someone whose fave candidate is blue-eyed.

 

[7heBoss]

Perhaps you can argue that this one creative team overstepped and established a detail that no person you deem worthy had confirmed. But, to my knowledge, it is a detail that has literally never been challenged in the 82 years since. Black isn't a real eye color, it is certainly a substitution for something else. Show me a comic panel where the creators or Curtis Swan or whoever you believe to be important depicted them unequivocally as a different color. They are blue and seem to have never been anything else

 

[7heBoss]

I actually just want to make clear that I wouldn't riot or anything if they cast an actor with green/brown eyes. I just felt that your original statement was slightly deceptive. I just believe that Superman's eyes have always been blue, and I was pointing out the earliest known example that I could think of.

 

[flickchick85]

Show me a comic panel where the creators or Curtis Swan or whoever you believe to be important depicted them unequivocally as a different color. They are blue and seem to have never been anything else

Not just black dots, still not blue. Also, for the 90's cartoons, Bruce Timm & Co. differentiated Clark and Bruce Wayne by making BRUCE the blue-eyed one, not Clark. They have not "always" been blue, plain and simple.

 

[7heBoss]

Not just black dots, still not blue. Also, for the 90's cartoons, Bruce Timm & Co. differentiated Clark and Bruce Wayne by making BRUCE the blue-eyed one, not Clark. They have not "always" been blue, plain and simple.

I don't know, man. I said "unequivocally as a different color" and these are all just black again, which just brings us back to black being a substitute for a different color. I'm talking about actually, unambiguously brown or green. Bruce Timm is just dots for eyes again.