Homecoming Out with the amazing and in with the Marvel Lounge - Part 9

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The Waynes got shot 4 times (5 if you count Batman Forever).
Only once it was by someone other than Joe Chill.
 
I love the Suicide Squad trailer. Never expected me to do that, because I've been very skeptic towards that film.

I like the Batman v Superman trailer, but there is still something I don't like about it. First of all: it looks too artificial. Second: it looks too much Zack Snyder (I just don't like his directing at all!). Third: I really don't like Henry Cavill as Superman and the way they portray the character. I love what I'm seeing of Affleck as Bruce though.

I think Suicide Squad looks better by far.
 
I love the Suicide Squad trailer. Never expected me to do that, because I've been very skeptic towards that film.

I like the Batman v Superman trailer, but there is still something I don't like about it. First of all: it looks too artificial. Second: it looks too much Zack Snyder (I just don't like his directing at all!). Third: I really don't like Henry Cavill as Superman and the way they portray the character. I love what I'm seeing of Affleck as Bruce though.

I think Suicide Squad looks better by far.

what do you think of the Joker design now that we've seen it presented a lot better
 
I think it would have looked perfect had it not been for the tattoos and metal teeth.

The tattoos I was surprisingly ok with (couldn't see the damaged one, so maybe that's why) but I agree the teeth should've just been regular ol teeth. And the jokes on those who said that Joker wouldn't be shirtless in the movie. :oldrazz:
 
Hey did any one see this interesting article:
http://www.newsarama.com/25232-was-marvel-s-spider-man-swiped-from-a-1950s-halloween-costume.html
The Curious Case of the SPIDER MAN Halloween Costume ... from 1954!


by Chris Arrant, Editor
Date: 15 July 2015 Time: 10:52 AM ET

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CREDIT: Ben Cooper Inc.

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CREDIT: Marvel Comics



Spider-Man was created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko in 1962... but could he have been inspired by a children's Halloween costume produced as early as 1954?
That's the curious case a new New York Post article examines, wondering aloud if several key elements of Marvel's Spider-Man were inspired by the costume created nearly a decade earlier. It comes to light from a collectibles dealer named Ben Cimino, who discovered a 1954 catalog and Halloween costume for a character named "Spider Man" with a familiar webbing pattern - however, with a yellow-and-black color scheme.
This yellow "Spider Man" costume was made by Ben Cooper Inc., and first advertised in 1954. Although now defunct, Ben Cooper Inc. was a prominent producer of Halloween costumes from the 1930s to the 1980s. Ben Cooper's "Spider Man" costume sold consistently from 1954 to 1962, with slight variations over the years.

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CREDIT: Ben Cooper Inc.



Lee and Ditko are credited for creating Marvel's Spider-Man in 1962, although preliminary work on the visual design was done by Jack Kirby (who according to the piece is "rumored" to have worked for briefly for Ben Cooper in the 50s). Lee has openly said that the character was based somewhat on the pulp hero the Spider, and there have been outside claims that Lee was inspired by Archie's the Web as well as the Fly, which was created by Kirby and Joe Simon. There is also some dispute about how much of Kirby's early work was carried over into Ditko's version.
“Ben Cooper was 10 miles from Marvel’s offices,” Cimino told NY Post. “Ben Cooper ruled Halloween in New York City, so Ditko had to have seen this costume. When he got the assignment for Spider-Man, maybe something came back when he was designing it. It’s so much like the Ben Cooper.”
Making the case stranger, in 1963 Ben Cooper manufactured the first Marvel licensed product ever - you guessed it, an offficial Marvel Spider-Man costume, just a year after the character was created and a year before any other known Marvel licensed merchandise for the character.

"So why would Ben Cooper, a company that was already producing a Spider Man costume, be interested in licensing Marvel’s Spider-Man long before the comic character achieved mainstream popularity?" asks the Post.
Cimino reached out to Ditko about the similarities, with the reclusive artist reportedly replying by letter "The burden of proof is on the person who makes the assertion, claim, charge. Some clippings, etc., are not rational proof of anything but some clippings, etc.”
Marvel did not respond to the NY Post's request for comment.
“No one is going to talk about this, because there are billions of dollars at stake ” Cimino theorizes. “You don’t know if the Ben Cooper heirs are going to come out of the woodwork and sue or something.”
Ben Cooper Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1991, and was eventually bought out by a competitor, Rubie's Costume, in 1992.
 

Yeah, I found it fascinating. Although, I can't find any reputable sources saying that Kirby worked for Ben Cooper, Inc.

My guess is the costume company saw a few similarities in the costumes and noticed the exact same name, and took advantage of it to work out a deal with Marvel.

Thus, the first piece of Marvel swag was born.
 
Ya was a cool article

Also antman was fun and keep your ears open for the spidey ref.
 
So, in the All-New Spider-Man comics coming out soon, is Peter still married to MJ?
 
Are you talking about the relaunch for amazing eith the global angle. He isn't married to her and we haven't heard anything really yet in the supporting characters yet.
 
What is he doing exactly, btw? I know that he's going around the world, but is he doing anything specific or is he just traveling the world and doin' normal hero stuff?
 
So, in the All-New Spider-Man comics coming out soon, is Peter still married to MJ?

No, unfortunately. The 'Renew Your Vows' series that you've probably heard of, has Peter and MJ married with a daughter but it is not being used as a part of the continuity.
 
Well we don't know what from any of the secret wars books make it out into the new mu. Now yes as of right now we know peter won't be married to any one in relaunch doesn't mean we couldn't see mj or others back in a more bigger role and love stuff.
 
So, superhero stuff:

Suicide Squad looks awesome, as does BvS. I had their trailers on repeat. It's good s***.

Ant-Man was a very fun and another solid addition to the MCU.
 
I gotta agree, Ant-man was pretty good. A solid, fun film.

Am I in the minority by saying the Suicide Squad trailer left me feeling cold? I was not impressed in the least. On the flip side, the BvS trailer looked incredible.
 
Mu problem with dccu is I don't like the look, tone and direction. They want to be.
 
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