Pedro Pascal is Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic

[Dcs72]

Marvel ain't gonna cast Ronan alongside Krasinski. The age gap would become too much of a talking point especially given the family dynamic this team has. Folks really shouldn't expect a big age gap between Reed and Sue, regardless of whomever they cast.

If Marvel isn't casting Ronan opposite Krasinski, then they're not casting Jodie Comer, who's only 13 months older than Ronan.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I think Krasinski would be believable as Ronan's father, or atleast uncle, in any other film.
And then suddenly people wouldn't be against them as a romantic couple in F4.

Why am I against this?
Well, it's not just about looks but also their overall physical appearance. He's tall, while she's quite short and her stature is tiny. One can only fool the audience to a certain limit with camera angles and "movie magic". At one point, their difference in height will be noticeable.

I can't point out enough how weird it will be to cast Susan with somebody who's 15 years younger than Reed.
I think that even 10 years between Reed and Susan (if Lily James gets the role) would be stretching it a bit, but still be somewhat acceptable. The age difference should definetely not be any bigger than that!!!
We may have come to a point where we need to give up Krasinski and go younger. His best age match is Seyfried but many of the other actresses (James, Comer, Ronan) are younger than her. Perhaps that's the only way make the film, having Reed to be around Susan's age.

I don't know who that actor should be.
Highmore lacks gravitas, and he lacks supporters as well.
Logan Lerman has made it clear that he's not into CBM blockbusters, and that he doesn't want to wear "tights and sh*t".
Josh Hucherson won't suit the character at all.
Rollo Weeks has quit acting.
Perhaps Frank Dillane as an edgier Reed? I can't see that either.
Thomas Sangster is more of the Johnny Storm type.
Michael Angarano??! Definetely wrong in every possible way!!!!!!
You need to help me out here.

i think you are more discriminating height here not age.

In response to those of you saying Marvel didnt cast Ronan (or whomever), we literally know nothing until the cast is revealed.
Also
I guess Marvel didnt get the age gap memo when they made Mark Ruffalo and ScarJo have an on screen relationship Ruffalo is 54 Scarlett is 37 (17 year age gap)

lest we forget 51 year old Bettany and 33 year old Olsen. 18 year gap. But he gets the free pass because what, we like him in the role so now we are playing favorites?

Hollywood is full of peedofiles and has a history of protecting and even condoning such behaviour (see Bryan Singer) so I seriously doubt they care about age gap relationships being “wrong”. They only condemn such ppl after they have been caught.

 

[LoganPool]

John Krasinski looks younger when he's clean-shaven. And if he is our MCU Reed, I hope he goes clean-shaven. And I'd be perfectly fine seeing him cast along side Ronan.

 

[Airwings]

i think you are more discriminating height here not age.

In response to those of you saying Marvel didnt cast Ronan (or whomever), we literally know nothing until the cast is revealed.
Also
I guess Marvel didnt get the age gap memo when they made Mark Ruffalo and ScarJo have an on screen relationship Ruffalo is 54 Scarlett is 37 (17 year age gap)

lest we forget 51 year old Bettany and 33 year old Olsen. 18 year gap. But he gets the free pass because what, we like him in the role so now we are playing favorites?

Hollywood is full of peedofiles and has a history of protecting and even condoning such behaviour (see Bryan Singer) so I seriously doubt they care about age gap relationships being “wrong”. They only condemn such ppl after they have been caught.

There have been many not so good matches in the past. Let's do it right this time, for once!

We should stop making excuses for Krasinski and Ronan to be cast together. Why do people defend that way to go with the characters instead of acknowledging the solution here?? Don't you even see it yourselves?

Ditch Krasinski and go for a younger Reed actor!!! Then there will be a lot of more contenders for Susan to choose from. Neither will feel like she's his niece.
KRASINSKI IS OUT!!!!!!!
I don't even know why anyone of you mention this as the best way!!!

Well, can we all agree that the problem is solved now or should we keep bouncing the ball a few more rounds?

Let's discuss young Reed actors now. Who do YOU want to see?
I have given a number of names and perhaps neither will work (Lerman might have, but he doesn't want to)
Here's some more:
Dylan O'Brien: if it happens I will feel sick, maybe throw up a little in my mouth, that's how much I dislike the actor. It will be painful to see him as Mr Fantastic all throughout the film
Aaron Johnson: He might think of the science guy Reed as too calm and not manly enough, and he tries so hard to be uber masculine these days. But he's got the acting chops for it
Nicholas Hoult: Obviously a talent but I simply can't see it. He's got the wrong look.
Liam Aiken: A left-field choice. I have to see more of the work he's done the last decade before I can give a fair judgement.

 

[Airwings]

John Krasinski looks younger when he's clean-shaven. And if he is our MCU Reed, I hope he goes clean-shaven. And I'd be perfectly fine seeing him cast along side Ronan.

In all seriousness, wouldn't Seyfried be a more "perfectly fine" Susan to Krasinski's Reed?
Give it a thought! No wait, give it two thoughts or more!

 

[Airwings]

Marvel ain't gonna cast Ronan alongside Krasinski. The age gap would become too much of a talking point especially given the family dynamic this team has. Folks really shouldn't expect a big age gap between Reed and Sue, regardless of whomever they cast.

Finally someone who sees the problem here.
It's not just how people will react. It's also what it will look like on-screen. Ronan is way too young for Krasinski.
This is not me disliking the actress. I think she's, beyond words, a truly amazing talent. But I'm not blinded by my admiration for her. I'm able to face the truth. She IS too young.

Here's some food for though for people who aren't against Krasinski and Ronan together:
Imagine a scenario!
If somebody, who hasn't a clue who the actors are or their age, sees the film.... I think that person would notice something is a bit off with that match.

We can go even further to point out the Krasinski/Ronan mismatch
If the same "somebody" has no prior knowledge about Fantastic Four either, it will seem as Reed is some kind of science mentor to "youngsters" Susan & Johnny and that he also has taken them in his care and they're living with him. But when Reed later gets romantic with Susan, then it's going to feel*yuck*
THAT'S how we should look at it to see if the Reed actor has an age appropriate Susan. I bet nobody has thought of it that way

Reed is the "father", yes. But Susan is in fact the "mother". It will be soo wrong if she and Johnny appear to be Reed's "kids" or "students" or whatever.

That leaves us with two ways to go:
A younger Reed actor for whoever they cast as Susan (James, Ronan, Comer etc etc)
OR
Krasinski (or someone else around his age) to be cast next to Seyfried (or another actress around HER age).

 

[Fluedd]

The age difference among consenting adults simply does not matter to me. If two people love each other and are suited for each other, what does a 15 year age gap matter? This happens in real life all the time. And has happened on film routinely as well. Why does it suddenly matter when it comes to a Fantastic Four movie?

Besides, there is an age gap in the comics, although I'm not sure of the exact number. I'd be much more concerned about the skill and chemistry of the actors involved than worrying about an age gap.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Consenting adults can do what they want. But this is a family superhero flick. You want Reed as a father figure to Johnny? Sure. But he can’t then invite any idea that he’s also a father figure to Sue. Simplest way to accomplish this is to keep Reed and Sue closer in age.

 

[Crimz]

I think people are getting too hung up on the age gap. The only age gap that matters is between Johnny and the other three as he should be the youngest. Sue and Reed can be close in age as that does not interfere with their dynamic.

The big age gap between them was a retcon from the Byrne era that has been retconned yet again to them being close in age. Also, Reed and Sue being the parental figures to Johnny is only a small aspect of their dynamic with him. It's more big brother and big sister, especially since the kids have been born.

 

[Fluedd]

I simply don't care about an age gap. I don't care if Reed and Sue are the same age or if they're 15 years apart. It's funny to me that in this age of "anything goes" sexually, people are getting more uptight about age gaps, of all things. I assume the only real objection is if the male is older, because this is a feminist idea that the "patriarchy" is oppressing women somehow by having more life experience than a younger woman. I'm sure they'd be fine with the reverse. This is garbage politics at its best.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I mean, in the comics it was once suggested that an adult Reed meet Sue when she was like 13 and she had a crush on him even then... obviously something like that doesn't fly in the current climate

even when it's just him being her collage teacher it's a bit questionable

so, it is a subject they need to be at the very least be aware of, and tread lightly around

what two consenting adults choose to do/or who to be with, is their own business...
but, make sure it's very clear that they were both in fact "consenting adult" when they met

 

[Dark Raven]

even when it's just him being her collage teacher it's a bit questionable

He was teaching her how to make one of these?

It's questionable because there are probably apps on your phone that do that for you now.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

*college teacher/professor

honestly, even if someone makes a typo, if you can't figure out what they meant based on the context of the statement, that's on you (that's just my view of internet grammar)

but, either way if he was in a position of power over her (in an authoritative capacity) even in just the teaching of "picture collage" it doesn't change what I was saying

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

The fact that this discussion keeps going on is kind of depressing.

I know several couples who have more than a 15 year gap. Are they constantly being judged by people who feel it’s their business?

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

The fact that this discussion keeps going on is kind of depressing.

I know several couples who have more than a 15 year gap. Are they constantly being judged by people who feel it’s their business?

This. I don’t get what the big deal is if both parties are completely fine with the age gap in the relationship

A good friend of mine is 33 and she’s dating a 45 year old dude currently. She’s happy and doesn’t mind the age gap.

 

[Da-Scribe]

The fact that this discussion keeps going on is kind of depressing.

I know several couples who have more than a 15 year gap. Are they constantly being judged by people who feel it’s their business?

This. I don’t get what the big deal is if both parties are completely fine with the age gap in the relationship

A good friend of mine is 33 and she’s dating a 45 year old dude currently. She’s happy and doesn’t mind the age gap.

You're both ignoring the key context which has been repeated over and over. It's not necessarily a big deal if consenting adults have an age gap. But it certainly becomes a big deal when there's an imbalanced power dynamic. There are folks in this thread who have expressed a desire to see Reed not only be a love interest for Sue, but also act her father figure. That's weird af.

Other folks have said, well Reed should just be a father figure to Johnny but Sue should also be closer in age to Johnny. That's still weird af.

I don't think either of these scenarios is particularly difficult to wrap one's hopefully non-predatory head around.

 

[Airwings]

The age difference among consenting adults simply does not matter to me. If two people love each other and are suited for each other, what does a 15 year age gap matter? This happens in real life all the time. And has happened on film routinely as well. Why does it suddenly matter when it comes to a Fantastic Four movie?

Besides, there is an age gap in the comics, although I'm not sure of the exact number. I'd be much more concerned about the skill and chemistry of the actors involved than worrying about an age gap.

When the age gap is noticable, it becomes a problem.

Seriously, why can't people just see how easily this matter can be solved.
By casting a younger actor for Reed.

Why are many posters here behaving like the film must have Krasinski and Ronan together?

 

[Airwings]

Another problem with casting Krasinski opposite someone much younger than him is that unless the writers tread very carefully, it could end up feeling patriarchal, and I doubt Marvel wants to deal with that kind of ****storm.

It won't be possible to tread carefully enough because Krasinski & Ronan is too much of a mismatch.

 

[Airwings]

Marvel ain't gonna cast Ronan alongside Krasinski. The age gap would become too much of a talking point especially given the family dynamic this team has. Folks really shouldn't expect a big age gap between Reed and Sue, regardless of whomever they cast.

You're right. It will steal too much focus from the film which will be bad for the characters.
The third version of F4, and the first in MCU, should not suffer from bad casting choices. Everything needs to be perfect this time.

 

[Airwings]

Consenting adults can do what they want. But this is a family superhero flick. You want Reed as a father figure to Johnny? Sure. But he can’t then invite any idea that he’s also a father figure to Sue. Simplest way to accomplish this is to keep Reed and Sue closer in age.

Of course they should be close in age

With Ronan cast, leave Krasinski out of this
And if Krasinski becomes the official Reed after the MoM cameo, there's no way Ronan fits Susan.

 

[Frodo]

I just don't see them having a big age gap for this series.

Yes, we all have our own beliefs about May/December romances, and we all have our own preferences for the ages of our dating/marriage partners.

But in this case, I don't see Feige and Co going for a huge age gap for the sake of keeping with the 1960s comics.

 

[Airwings]

You're both ignoring the key context which has been repeated over and over. It's not necessarily a big deal if consenting adults have an age gap. But it certainly becomes a big deal when there's an imbalanced power dynamic. There are folks in this thread who have expressed a desire to see Reed not only be a love interest for Sue, but also act her father figure. That's weird af.

Other folks have said, well Reed should just be a father figure to Johnny but Sue should also be closer in age to Johnny. That's still weird af.

I don't think either of these scenarios is particularly difficult to wrap one's hopefully non-predatory head around.

When I first said that Ronan is too young as Susan to Krasinski's Reed, some people took that as an offence. They couldn't accept this opinion and started to defend the match.

I keep repeating and reapeating the same thing. It only fuels the topic. I also go lenghts to explain why it's wrong. But certain people doesn't read what I really write then. They only see it as another post of "she's too young for him" and they take it as a challenge to keep defending the two actors to be cast together.

I have even brought up a dozen names for a younger Reed. They don't care, it's almost as if they don't want anybody else than Ronan and Krasinski to be Susan and Reed. Not since I first pointed out the age gap.
Very few can see that how wrong the two actors would be together. Mostly so you and I.

Btw, who said that Reed should be both love interest and father figure to Susan? I must have missed it.

 

[Stark Bauer]

There have been many not so good matches in the past. Let's do it right this time, for once!

We should stop making excuses for Krasinski and Ronan to be cast together. Why do people defend that way to go with the characters instead of acknowledging the solution here?? Don't you even see it yourselves?

Ditch Krasinski and go for a younger Reed actor!!! Then there will be a lot of more contenders for Susan to choose from. Neither will feel like she's his niece.
KRASINSKI IS OUT!!!!!!!
I don't even know why anyone of you mention this as the best way!!!

Well, can we all agree that the problem is solved now or should we keep bouncing the ball a few more rounds?

Let's discuss young Reed actors now. Who do YOU want to see?
I have given a number of names and perhaps neither will work (Lerman might have, but he doesn't want to)
Here's some more:
Dylan O'Brien: if it happens I will feel sick, maybe throw up a little in my mouth, that's how much I dislike the actor. It will be painful to see him as Mr Fantastic all throughout the film
Aaron Johnson: He might think of the science guy Reed as too calm and not manly enough, and he tries so hard to be uber masculine these days. But he's got the acting chops for it
Nicholas Hoult: Obviously a talent but I simply can't see it. He's got the wrong look.
Liam Aiken: A left-field choice. I have to see more of the work he's done the last decade before I can give a fair judgement.

Dylan O Brien is one of my favourite actors. I think we have very different tastes. Agree to disagree

 

[Stark Bauer]

I simply don't care about an age gap. I don't care if Reed and Sue are the same age or if they're 15 years apart. It's funny to me that in this age of "anything goes" sexually, people are getting more uptight about age gaps, of all things. I assume the only real objection is if the male is older, because this is a feminist idea that the "patriarchy" is oppressing women somehow by having more life experience than a younger woman. I'm sure they'd be fine with the reverse. This is garbage politics at its best.

 

[Stark Bauer]

The fact that this discussion keeps going on is kind of depressing.

I know several couples who have more than a 15 year gap. Are they constantly being judged by people who feel it’s their business?

i know a 90 year old man with a 75 year old wife. Should i judge them? XD