Marvel Films Phase Five

[The_Manhunter]

I'm anticipating we'll get a lot of news at D23 given Feige's recent comments.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just want to know the final phase 4 film.

 

[Prison Mike]

It’s weird how Phase IV has felt like the longest phase even though it started just last year with WandaVision. We’ve had 13 properties in 18 months. Kind of wild.

 

[psylockolussus]

It’s weird how Phase IV has felt like the longest phase even though it started just last year with WandaVision. We’ve had 13 properties in 18 months. Kind of wild.

The TV shows are just too many, like in hindsight, phase 4 is already the longest especially if you factor the screentime of those shows.

Plus 7 movies in 2 years... thats a lot.

 

[SumT]

The more projects = the more characters introduced and developed.
Everyone wins.

Where is the exact problem here?

 

[Mr. Peanut]

The more projects = the more characters introduced and developed.
Everyone wins.

Where is the exact problem here?

The only problem is if they don't eventually use those shows to tell a ton of different stories about a ton of different X-men once they get the X-men ball rolling.

 

[SumT]

indeed! lol
X-Men for the Win!

 

[HydraSith12]

I am the only one who want MCU Reed Richards to become the Maker in the future? imagine Richards being an ally for distant phases until he becomes a villain he would be a difficult villain to defeat since he would know all the weaknesses of his former allies

 

[psylockolussus]

The more projects = the more characters introduced and developed.
Everyone wins.

Where is the exact problem here?

Ever heard of quality over quantity.

The Xeries are a miXed bag for me.

We've had siX live action mcu shows and none of them can light up a candle against the best mcu films (and Marvel films).

 

[SumT]

So what? my point still remains: more characters presented to general audience and more characters developed, even if you didnt like their shows (other people did, so.... who are we to decide what shows should happen or not?

That, and Marvel cant do 10 movies a year to present all these characters, so disney plus was the only option.
And viewers are the ones to decide which projects to watch and what not to watch. None is forced to watch all of them, lol, so its all fine. Those who want to watch Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and the like will watch and learn about them. Those who only care about Loki and Falcon have their shows to enjoy.
Its a win-win situation.
We just cant expect all movies and shows to have the same level of quality. That is very unrealistic.
Again, there are shows for each viewer. So its all pros.

 

[psylockolussus]

So what? my point still remains: more characters presented to general audience and more characters developed, even if you didnt like their shows (other people did, so.... who are we to decide what shows should happen or not?

That, and Marvel cant do 10 movies a year to present all these characters, so disney plus was the only option.
And viewers are the ones to decide which projects to watch and what not to watch. None is forced to watch all of them, lol, so its all fine. Those who want to watch Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and the like will watch and learn about them. Those who only care about Loki and Falcon have their shows to enjoy.
Its a win-win situation.
We just cant expect all movies and shows to have the same level of quality. That is very unrealistic.
Again, there are shows for each viewer. So its all pros.

Yeah well we literally had the Inhumans, Shield, Cloak & Dagger, LegiXn, The Gifted, Agent Carter and a bunch of Marvel NetfliX shows pre Disney+. Most of them sucked. So just because you saw "more characters", it doesn't automatically means its better.

Fyi, Marvel Studios only started doing shows because they were ordered by Disney to release original content for Disney+, not because they wanted to make shows, because they could have done shows for ABC, Freeform and Disney Channel and didn't.

If you think this eXplosion of Marvel shows in D+ are merely a labor of love (not for the sake of putting new content to keep D+ subscribers) then I think you're miXtaken.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I am the only one who want MCU Reed Richards to become the Maker in the future? imagine Richards being an ally for distant phases until he becomes a villain he would be a difficult villain to defeat since he would know all the weaknesses of his former allies

That's certainly not something I want. I want main MCU Reed to be a mostly positive and hopeful character. Like, he can be a bit of a smartass but I definitely don't want him to become a villain.

Now if we're getting Secret Wars I'm open to Miles Teller playing an alternate Reed who became the Maker or something if they can find a place for that. But definitely not for the main Reed.

 

[SumT]

@psylock all of that has nothing to do with all the things Ive posted

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah well we literally had the Inhumans, Shield, Cloak & Dagger, LegiXn, The Gifted, Agent Carter and a bunch of Marvel NetfliX shows pre Disney+. Most of them sucked. So just because you saw "more characters", it doesn't automatically means its better.

Fyi, Marvel Studios only started doing shows because they were ordered by Disney to release original content for Disney+, not because they wanted to make shows, because they could have done shows for ABC, Freeform and Disney Channel and didn't.

If you think this eXplosion of Marvel shows in D+ are merely a labor of love (not for the sake of putting new content to keep D+ subscribers) then I think you're miXtaken.

The intent doesn't really change the fact that the shows are expanding the field of characters for the MCU. More characters, more new franchises. Marvel Studios is new to TV, so they need to get their sea legs still. I would be patient with the show quality. They should get better over time as they see what works and what doesn't. The Marvel movies wildly range in quality as well, and that has been the case since Phase 1.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am the only one who want MCU Reed Richards to become the Maker in the future? imagine Richards being an ally for distant phases until he becomes a villain he would be a difficult villain to defeat since he would know all the weaknesses of his former allies

Absolutely loathe this idea

 

[psylockolussus]

2023
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Secret Invasion
Guardians of the GalaXy Vol. 3
Echo
Loki 2
The Marvels
Blade
Ironheart
Agatha: Coven of Chaos

2024
Daredevil: Born Again
Captain America: New World Order
Thunderbolts

 

[HammerDown]

After seeing how phase 4 turned out and looking at this new line up…

 

[Mr. Peanut]

So Phase 5 is just more Phase 4, it feels like.

Should just ditch the phase terminology entirely. Instead call everything up to Endgame the "Infinity stone arc". Then call all this current stuff the "Multiverse arc". Then after that, hopefully we'll get the "Mutant arc".

Edit: Oh wait, looks like they are naming the arcs in addition to having phases....


Still not sure what phases actually refer to, though.

 

[Hannibal75]

So Phase 5 is just more Phase 4, it feels like.

Should just ditch the phase terminology entirely. Instead call everything up to Endgame the "Infinity stone arc". Then call all this current stuff the "Multiverse arc". Then after that, hopefully we'll get the "Mutant arc".

Edit: Oh wait, looks like they are naming the arcs in addition to having phases....


Still not sure what phases actually refer to, though.

Feige mentioned that's the name for phases 4-6.

 

[psylockolussus]

So Phase 5 is just more Phase 4, it feels like.

Should just ditch the phase terminology entirely. Instead call everything up to Endgame the "Infinity stone arc". Then call all this current stuff the "Multiverse arc". Then after that, hopefully we'll get the "Mutant arc".

Edit: Oh wait, looks like they are naming the arcs in addition to having phases....


Still not sure what phases actually refer to, though.

Phase 1 to 3 was the Infinity Saga.

So nothing new.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Feige mentioned that's the name for phases 4-6.

I get that, but like what differentiates a phase 4 movie from a phase 5 movie? What's the basis of the cutoff? It's not based around events in the story, or a certain number of years, or a certain number of movies. So what even is a phase?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I get that, but like what differentiates a phase 4 movie from a phase 5 movie? What's the basis of the cutoff? It's not based around events in the story, or a certain number of years, or a certain number of movies. So what even is a phase?

Feige previously said that Phase 4 is a reaction phase to Endgame and how it changed the world as well as new beginnings. So Phase 5 I am guessing will be more about building up to Kang and the Multiverse as a whole

 

[Prison Mike]

Maybe something big happens in BP2 that will change direction so much that it becomes obvious we’re leaving phase 4 and going into phase 5? Then I think Thunderbolts is the end of Phase 5 and Avengers Secret Wars in the end of phase 6. Those seem like big event movies to wrap up each phase IMO. In phases 1-3 we pretty much had an Avengers movie to wrap up each phase (though we did have Ant-Man in phase 2 and Spider-Man FFH in phase 3 to act as a pallet cleanser after everything that went down in the Avengers movies)

 

[MarvelRudi]

I get that, but like what differentiates a phase 4 movie from a phase 5 movie? What's the basis of the cutoff? It's not based around events in the story, or a certain number of years, or a certain number of movies. So what even is a phase?

I remember Feige saying there will be no phases at one point but for marketing purposes they're going to stick with the phases. I think people are use to phases hence why they're keeping it. The phases actually mean nothing.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm curious how the Multiverse plays a role on Thunderbolts / New World Order - like these two seem very grounded and Earth based compare to the other films.