AndrewGilkison
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What I hope Reeves does is he tells the stunt choreography team "Batman can do anything you want or consider cool in this figh, but he can't kill. Not even accidentally. If he even sees one of the goons almost dying, he'll go out of his way to save them and then beat them up."I want at least one scene where he has to take on a mob of goons/enemies at once but doesn't kill a single one to diffuse the situation.
When you put Batman in a situation like that and don't go the kill a few guys route it will challenge the writer to find more creative and inventive ways for Batman to come out winning. Would force them to have him use more gadgets and his martial arts attacks.
A few random ideas just thrown together from various comic scenes or concepts that I like:
- Firefly Unleashed : a B-lister, Firefly is unlikely to be the main villain in a Batman movie. But if he was... picture this: Batman is desperately speeding down the road in the Batmobile, and when he comes to a barricade, launches himself out, and the camera follows him as he begins to glide, like in the Nolan films and Arkham games. We pan around him as shoots through the Gotham skyline, and a glow starts to take up the edges of the screen... and then we pan behind him as he hits a clearing and sees a MASSIVE inferno, with fire roaring across an entire city block. This is Firefly’s handiwork, and the scene should bring to mind a certain recent episode on a certain Home Box Office channel series involving other people which flying flamethrowers.
- The Chase/Date Night: Catwoman chased by Batman. Classic idea, but portrayed full hog with Hollywood budget and creative choreography, and a running theme of how Catwoman is taking this as a fun, flirty game, while Batman tries to stay professional, only to occasionally crack a smirk. It could even be funnier if the chase ends with Catwoman completely getting away, and we cut to Selina taunting Bruce with double entendres about it at some party the next night to reveal that they know each other’s identities.
- Face to Two Face: A recovered and “healed” Harvey Dent has been hounded and persecuted by some other villain fro the entire film, and fighting off his darker impulses and ignoring sporadic whispers and barely-glimpsed appearances of his split personality. Eventually, the other criminal goes too far, and Harvey has an intense conversation with the other side in a mirror, ending with him personally re-scarring his face to become Two-Face again. Personally, I like the idea of a more desperate and despairing Harvey grimly grabbing glowing coals and burning his face while screaming, like in that Bruce Timm short story.
Couldn't agree more. I could go on for pages on why Batman shouldn't kill. One is to force creativity. The best Batman stories sets up an impossible to win scenario and finds a logical and exciting way for him to overcome it. Best example is the final action scene from The Dark Knight. Him fighting both police and Criminals in the building to make sure everyone lives is great. And his plan to stop the bombs is beyond perfect. The whole scene sets the tension and has you guessing what his plan all the way to the end and it ties into the theme and philosophies of the story so well. I miss that.I want at least one scene where he has to take on a mob of goons/enemies at once but doesn't kill a single one to diffuse the situation.
When you put Batman in a situation like that and don't go the kill a few guys route it will challenge the writer to find more creative and inventive ways for Batman to come out winning. Would force them to have him use more gadgets and his martial arts attacks.
I absolutely want something like that. So many writers (and directors) get so caught up in being gritty or brutal they overlook key aspects to the characters. One of my favorite stories is the Justice League Unlimited episode "Epilogue" which has a similar scene. I would love to see something like that.
I would love to see a sequence similar to Arkham Origins of Batman taking on Firefly as he tries to destroy a bridge. It's a setting, character, and type of action sequence we haven't seen before in a Batman film.- Firefly Unleashed : a B-lister, Firefly is unlikely to be the main villain in a Batman movie. But if he was... picture this: Batman is desperately speeding down the road in the Batmobile, and when he comes to a barricade, launches himself out, and the camera follows him as he begins to glide, like in the Nolan films and Arkham games. We pan around him as shoots through the Gotham skyline, and a glow starts to take up the edges of the screen... and then we pan behind him as he hits a clearing and sees a MASSIVE inferno, with fire roaring across an entire city block. This is Firefly’s handiwork, and the scene should bring to mind a certain recent episode on a certain Home Box Office channel series involving other people which flying flamethrowers.
haha Im glad I'm not the only one that loves this. ugh, The Long Halloween is such a masterpiece. Tim Sales artwork never ceases to create such a brilliant mood.I love when Batman does something nice for his villains; the more sympathetic ones, at least. That's a side of him that we rarely get to see in adaptations.
Like this scene from The Long Halloween. I sure wouldn't mind seeing something similar in the movie.
Only Batman 1989 has come close to replicating this.In lieu of an origin flashback
In the same light, but from Dark Victory.