The Avengers Poll: Who Should Be Avengers Main Villain?

[Godzilla2000]

If what I'm gathering is correct the main villain will be Loki and his Giant snake. Hey, hey get your minds out of the gutter!

 

[RagingOvaries]

If what I'm gathering is correct the main villain will be Loki and his Giant snake. Hey, hey get your minds out of the gutter!

Hey now... my mind is always in the gutter.

 

[BigThor]

I don't think we have to worry that the threat level will be too low. Something among Loki's army will give THOR trouble.

Yeah I'm pretty sure each of The Avengers are going to get a proper challenge according to their abilities.

 

[Herolee10]

Yeah I'm pretty sure each of The Avengers are going to get a proper challenge according to their abilities.

I would think so, especially since I'm pretty sure that out of all of the Avengers, Loki knows Thor's abilities/strengths the best after having spent centuries seeing him in combat.

 

[BigThor]

I would think so, especially since I'm pretty sure that out of all of the Avengers, Loki knows Thor's abilities/strengths the best after having spent centuries seeing him in combat.

However, Hiddleston still said that Thor is the most challenging member of the Avenger for him to battle.

Just like Loki knows Thor's abilities/strengths, Thor also knows his and has spent centuries seeing him in combat as well..

 

[Herolee10]

However, Hiddleston still said that Thor is the most challenging member of the Avenger for him to battle.

Just like Loki knows Thor's abilities/strengths, Thor also knows his and has spent centuries seeing him in combat as well..

true, but didn't tom also say that Loki is also somewhat emotionally affected when fighting Thor since they have that long history of having been brothers as well? I would think that those feelings would affect Loki's A game somewhat.

 

[BigThor]

true, but didn't tom also say that Loki is also somewhat emotionally affected when fighting Thor since they have that long history of having been brothers as well? I would think that those feelings would affect Loki's A game somewhat.

He did say something about Loki's feelins towards Thor but I don't think that was the only reason he said Thor would be his most difficult opponent (Thor was pretty much holding back during their fight in THOR).

Weather control, super strength, invulnerability, enchanted hammer, centuries of experience = one tough cookie

 

[Herolee10]

He did say something about Loki's feelins towards Thor but I don't think that was the only reason he said Thor would be his most difficult opponent (Thor was pretty much holding back during their fight in THOR).

Weather control, super strength, invulnerability, enchanted hammer, centuries of experience = one tough cookie

True; I do think that their fight this time would be much more intense though, primarily because:

1. Thor may be unwilling at first to harm his once beloved Brother whom he had recently thought to be deceased

2. Tom did say that during the years away from Asgard, Loki has applied some fancy military training of his own for himself, so Loki is more secured in the art of combat; not to mention that Tom did also say that Loki has had time to further hone his magic and dive into areas that he wasn't able to apply towards his magical abilities when he was still a prince of Asgard.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I just thought of something, what if Loki gives Thanos a fake infinity gauntlet (assuming that he is in the movie)? In the Marvel cinematic universe, it has been established that Loki is the type of villain who would back stab some villain depending on some particular circumstance.

 

[BigThor]

True; I do think that their fight this time would be much more intense though, primarily because:

1. Thor may be unwilling at first to harm his once beloved Brother whom he had recently thought to be deceased

Thor was also unwilling to harm Loki at the beginning of their fight in THOR until he threatened Jane so that wouldn't be anything new.

2. Tom did say that during the years away from Asgard, Loki has applied some fancy military training of his own for himself, so Loki is more secured in the art of combat; not to mention that Tom did also say that Loki has had time to further hone his magic and dive into areas that he wasn't able to apply towards his magical abilities when he was still a prince of Asgard.

Yeah I'm pretty excited to see how Loki evolved during the time bewteen THOR and The Avengers, I'm excited to see his improved magical abilities and I hope he uses more extravagant magic attacks in this film.

 

[Herolee10]

Yeah I'm pretty excited to see how Loki evolved during the time bewteen THOR and The Avengers, I'm excited to see his improved magical abilities and I hope he uses more extravagant magic attacks in this film.

It's funny to note that I kind of felt that the film was holding back in a way from showing Thor and Loki use their full arsenal of abilities that we know that they both possess.lol


In any case, I do hope that which ever alien group, or groups that Loki brings, that there's a few individuals that stand out from the rest of their armada, acting like Generals for Loki or Lieutenants instead of just having mindless monsters going around following Loki's order.

 

[BigThor]

It's funny to note that I kind of felt that the film was holding back in a way from showing Thor and Loki use their full arsenal of abilities that we know that they both possess.lol

Yeah, if Thor's fight with Loki would've been alot more epic if he used the same level of power he used against the Frost Giants and the Destroyer.

I was hoping to see Loki pull out the big guns in his arsenal during his fight with Thor, but there was no need to because Thor seemed like he was "Thor-lite" during their battle.

In any case, I do hope that which ever alien group, or groups that Loki brings, that there's a few individuals that stand out from the rest of their armada, acting like Generals for Loki or Lieutenants instead of just having mindless monsters going around following Loki's order.

I would love to see Lieutenants/Generals with more abilities and authority than the regular aliens, that would make Loki's army even more of a challenge for the Avengers.

 

[cherokeesam]

I just thought of something, what if Loki gives Thanos a fake infinity gauntlet (assuming that he is in the movie)? In the Marvel cinematic universe, it has been established that Loki is the type of villain who would back stab some villain depending on some particular circumstance.

Thanos would be able to see right through any type of ruse like that.

 

[Weadazoid]

Yeah, if Thor's fight with Loki would've been alot more epic if he used the same level of power he used against the Frost Giants and the Destroyer.

I was hoping to see Loki pull out the big guns in his arsenal during his fight with Thor, but there was no need to because Thor seemed like he was "Thor-lite" during their battle.



I would love to see Lieutenants/Generals with more abilities and authority than the regular aliens, that would make Loki's army even more of a challenge for the Avengers.

I don't know Loki had full control over Odins Staff at that point, thats how I viewed the battle in terms of power. Loki basicly one shots and destroys Lauffy the Frost Giant King....

Thor takse the same blast from the staff gets thrown out of the tower but comes roaring back... to me that was pretty impressive

 

[LokiDionysos]

I just thought of something, what if Loki gives Thanos a fake infinity gauntlet (assuming that he is in the movie)? In the Marvel cinematic universe, it has been established that Loki is the type of villain who would back stab some villain depending on some particular circumstance.

I think Loki will do something along those lines. He's a trickster god afterall and Thanos can definitely be portrayed as someone easily outwitted at times. I still don't think we'll see Thanos directly(at least until post-credits), and that we'll see someone like Nebula leading his/her merc army while Thanos is still way off in space. Fury may know something besides Loki is coming, I just don't see it being Thanos yet. Maybe Thanos' advance forces and the space pirate Nebula are closer to Earth and have been threatening it already by attacking other planets and destroying skrull outposts(Skrulls that switch sides in the army, others refugees).

I think Loki might simply intervene in all of this to hijack the forces for his own. Maybe Nebula even negotiates the deal for him, acting as a representative but then wants the gauntlet for herself which causes Loki to make sure neither gets it, or gets all the gems as well as the gauntlet. He may say something like "I told you I'd give you the Gauntlet and I've upheld my part of the bargain" and transport it to Thanos' ship through a relay on Nebula's ship after scattering the gems and keeping the mind gem for himself to use on Nebula and anyone in the army who opposes his plans.

Scattering them would keep Thanos busy while Loki hangs on to one. And if he does have the mind gem on his staff then it's been removed from the fully assembled gauntlet we saw briefly in Thor. Thanos might totally work like the Empire in star wars in a sense. We'd only see him as Nebula/Loki communicate to him long distance, but it would build him up to be this ruthless space lord.
There are many reasons Nebula works as a minor villain/General character if Thanos is in.

 

[Lord]

I think Loki will do something along those lines. He's a trickster god afterall and Thanos can definitely be portrayed as someone easily outwitted at times. I still don't think we'll see Thanos directly(at least until post-credits), and that we'll see someone like Nebula leading his/her merc army while Thanos is still way off in space. Fury may know something besides Loki is coming, I just don't see it being Thanos yet. Maybe Thanos' advance forces and the space pirate Nebula are closer to Earth and have been threatening it already by attacking other planets and destroying skrull outposts(Skrulls that switch sides in the army, others refugees).

I think Loki might simply intervene in all of this to hijack the forces for his own. Maybe Nebula even negotiates the deal for him, acting as a representative but then wants the gauntlet for herself which causes Loki to make sure neither gets it, or gets all the gems as well as the gauntlet. He may say something like "I told you I'd give you the Gauntlet and I've upheld my part of the bargain" and transport it to Thanos' ship through a relay on Nebula's ship after scattering the gems and keeping the mind gem for himself to use on Nebula and anyone in the army who opposes his plans.

Scattering them would keep Thanos busy while Loki hangs on to one. And if he does have the mind gem on his staff then it's been removed from the fully assembled gauntlet we saw briefly in Thor. Thanos might totally work like the Empire in star wars in a sense. We'd only see him as Nebula/Loki communicate to him long distance, but it would build him up to be this ruthless space lord.
There are many reasons Nebula works as a minor villain/General character if Thanos is in.

No please, no post-credits scene for yet another sequel, after years of waiting i want the full story this time, not a comercial for Avengers 2

 

[The Morningstar]

Thanos is like Reed Richards and Tony Stark combined. He's isn't exactly slow. I doubt even Loki could pull the wool over his eyes.

 

[LokiDionysos]

That's why I'm thinking it's something Thanos doesn't have much say in. "Here take the empty gauntlet, I'll keep the gem that will help me control your mind." Or that Thanos is very far away. He has been outsmarted a few times but from what I understand it's mostly a being too sure of himself when he's outsmarted type of thing. Hence, Loki transports the Empty gauntlet to Thanos when he's a great distance away and thinks he's getting it all since it was all together when they made the deal. And then Loki spreads the gems across the nine realms, and sends Thanos the gauntlet. Causing him a lot of trouble if he wants to travel across vast expanses of space to get it all back together. And Loki still hangs on to the mind gem and knows the locations to ensure Thanos can't have all the gems.

 

[LokiDionysos]

No please, no post-credits scene for yet another sequel, after years of waiting i want the full story this time, not a comercial for Avengers 2

I just don't see Thanos doing any fighting yet, there's too much else going on, but many things are pointing to him being included. I can however see a little Thanos and Nebula action with Nebula serving as the leader of Loki's army(there has to be another named villain in play in the army). It just seems like a safe bet, to set it up in a way similar to that. Or just to have him supply the army. The post-credits could be the reveal that somehow Thanos has already acquired one gem or something Loki didn't expect him to get. I'm not saying he wont show up before that. I don't think we're getting away from the post-credits and the stories becoming even more interconnected though. They'll only build on it in Phase 2. And calling it that tells me they have some sort of grand plan for all this, possibly leading to an infinity gauntlet saga like situation, with a little of Thanos quest worked in across phase 2 movies. How could that not be an awesome sequel if elements are introduced not only within the film but also in the post-credits of this one? That's what I'm saying.

I'm thinking, like a few others, that we only see Thanos briefly. I'm guessing Nebula controls the alien merc army instead (as she has in the comics). And I'd be totally ok if that's the way it is, because the focus is most likely on Loki and his army/whatever else he unleashes for this movie.
Edit: Also Nebula is a character who's been obsessed with the gauntlet at certain points, so they could try to adapt some of that to make the gauntlet and gems stay in her and Loki's hands. She adds an extra element that Loki can use against Thanos, while being able to play a minor role in the film since she's a space pirate who leads an alien merc army.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Well, it's not like Thanos can read minds.

 

[cherokeesam]

No please, no post-credits scene for yet another sequel, after years of waiting i want the full story this time, not a comercial for Avengers 2

Pretty sure Feige confirmed a post-credit scene for The Avengers in an interview a few weeks ago.

 

[The Morningstar]

Well, it's not like Thanos can read minds.

Yea he can. He's laughed off attempted mind ****s from the likes of Moondragon. Who is on the same level as Professor X.

 

[LokiDionysos]

My theory has Thanos very, very far off in the universe. Nebula has already stolen his ship and he only communicates with them long-distance, at first. And is this all powerful force feared all across the universe. Even feared by Nebula, pretty feared herself in many galaxies, who had worked for him and thought she'd bested him in the past when she trapped him in a state between life and death.

Just some more stuff about why Nebula works as a side-villain, especially if Thanos is looming in the background.

" Among the advanced alien technology at her disposal was once the Sanctuary II, a starship of 10,000 crewmen of various species and armed with hundreds of energy weapons as well as a hanger deck holding hundreds of fighter craft."

She hijacks it from Thanos in the comics, and teleports it away from him. In this movie, I'm wondering if maybe Loki and Nebula steal Sanctuary II from Thanos together in a sense, and that Nebula is already on board causing problems, destroying worlds, and attempting to destroy a skrull outpost in our galaxy when Loki shows up in one of the other realms. Thanos could show up holographic style (like the Emperor) revealing he wants his ship back and will begin the trek across space to take his revenge. Loki then strikes a deal and works out a plan so he can keep the ship, keep Thanos at bay, and use Nebula and the alien army to attack earth all at the same time.
http://marvel.com/universe/Nebula (under Paraphernalia)

Also:

"Nebula uses blasters worn on her wrists that fire concussive blasts of unknown energy or heat blasts that can incinerate a human being almost instantly. She also apparently wears a device that enables her to disguise her appearance, either through illusion-casting or through actual molecular rearrangement of her body and clothing."

So she's also a shapeshifter with blasters on her wrists, and her henchmen (the ones who have guns) probably wear blasters on their wrists too. They could also change a few things to make her army be comprised of any cosmic race they want easily since it's already a diverse army made up of many groups, and has at times been made up of others besides the main four.
There's lots of other things that make her a good character that could easily be included, and would be completely relevant if we're going to end up seeing Thanos.

Check out just a few of the things listed on the top of the wiki page if you're interested. Her ties to the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos, and past conflicts with the Avengers make her a prime candidate if they need to hold off on a fully powered Thanos for a while. It could still lead to some interesting interactions with Thanos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebula_(comics)

 

[BigThor]

I don't know Loki had full control over Odins Staff at that point, thats how I viewed the battle in terms of power. Loki basicly one shots and destroys Lauffy the Frost Giant King....

Thor takse the same blast from the staff gets thrown out of the tower but comes roaring back... to me that was pretty impressive

Yeah that was very impressive indeed, I'm just saying when he fought Loki he seemed to be holding back alot of the offense abilities he used during the Jotunheim battle and his fight with The Destroyer.

 

[Weadazoid]

Well... Face it that is his brother he was still trying to reconcile things.


Loki afterall never had any intentions of killing Odin, or Thor, he still had enough love for them to keep them alive, he simply wanted them under his thumb so to speak.

Yes Thor held back a bit, face it he could have ended it all when he hammer trapped Loki.... he could have curbed him right then and there.


In terms of the battle though, as one writer put if for the first time things really did feel as though it was battle of super powered beings.

Yes Hulks battle with Abom lasted longer.... but you got the sense from THor that a hammer strike from Thor just might be enough to take even the Hulk off his feet


SOmething I so desperatly want to see...not that he cwould knock the hulk out... but just to see a man... go toe to toe with the hulk and actually hurt him physically.... would create the proper awe around THor for power