Portland test screening indicates altered ending???

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

The more I think about it, the more I begin to understand why I could be changed. I think the general public may be like WTF? with the squid.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

The more I think about it, the more I begin to understand why I could be changed. I think the general public may be like WTF? with the squid.

Yeah, well I say **** Joe sixpack. I'm tired of movies catering to lazy *******s who can't even stand to read a ****ing book.

I mean common. Oh, yeah, like the other parts of the book are so much more believable than this. The squid is just jumping the shark....too much..too weird...

a violent energy storm from but not actually from a man who was made all powerful from a stock comic book atomic mishap who is naked and blue is the much better, more modern, more believable option to go with.

 

[[A]]

The poll options s u c k

 

[S.D. Plissken]

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Which of us is responsible? Who makes the world?



So anyways, crimsonmist brings up a good point, the Directors Cut dvd. Perhaps there is a possibility of the squid ending making it into said extended dvd?

I remember reading an article at Watchmencomicmovie.com about a monster/creature fx designer working on the film by the name of Neville Page. We now know that Bubastis is in the film, but I wouldn't imagine that her creation would be a hugely daunting task to recreate onscreen. So again, we have some indications of the squid--maybe for the DVD? I took the liberty of digging up the article from their archives. Please Enjoy:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/022008-watchmen-neville-page.php

Creature Feature?

Movie monster maker Neville Page gives hints about his work on Watchmen that open up speculation on the film’s ending
In a recent article on a popular science fiction Web site, Neville Page talked about his involvement in Cloverfield as lead creature designer and mentioned briefly that he was also working on the new Star Trek movie as well as Watchmen.

This got me thinking — what does Watchmen need with a heavy hitting monster maker like Page, unless we were going to see an ending to the film more in line with the graphic novel then with the most recent leaked script drafts — an ending that involves a gigantic monstrous squid.

Now there are spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk. Here’s the tale of the tape on the film’s ending as we know it today…

Every script draft leaked since the Hamm draft back in 1989 up until the most recent Tse draft had an ending that was very different from the one in Alan Moore’s original graphic novel.The most recent incarnation involved “energy ribbons” developed by Veidt from Dr. Manhattan’s experiments on “world universal energy.” It looked like the ending was going to be changed.

Then, back in October 2007, Zack Snyder gave an interview with Starlog magazine where he uttered the now infamous but cryptic quote of, “I’m absolutely keeping the graphic novel’s ending.” It looked like the ending was going to stay the same… maybe.

Then, just a little more then a week ago, we got some more info in the form of our exclusive Zack Snyder fan Q&A. Snyder answered a question a fan posed asking if he was going to show the advanced technology brought about by Dr. Manhattan in his adaptation. Snyder answered that he would be showing many of the Doc’s advancements, including “what he’s working on as far as world universal energy.” Changed ending again? Another “maybe.”

Now, back to Neville Page. As folks on our forum started to postulate what Page’s involvement meant to the ending of Watchmen, one plucky forum member shot Mr. Page an email where he was told:

As for The Watchmen, I am not able to discuss what I had done in terms of creature. Perhaps later. The production designer [Alex McDowell] is amazing, so the production should be fantastic. I am really an industrial designer by education and half of my professional life was spent in this arena. Now, I am working as a concept designer but the focus as of late has been creature. Although, I personally love costume work and props, I am not doing much on current productions.

Sounds to me like he’s doing some creature work for Watchmen. Looks like we have some more evidence in the “faithful ending” column again. Let's face it — why hire a master monster maker like Page unless there was a need for someone to design something big and nasty? That’s obviously his sweet spot. Now, Veidt does have a genetically altered lynx that might make an appearance in the film, but that doesn’t seem like reason enough to bring in a heavy hitting creature creator like Neville Page, does it? Aside from the lynx and the squid, there are no other creatures in Watchmen whatsoever.

So? Altered ending? Same ending? Something in between? I’ll leave it to all of you to decide which side of the fence your on, and I’ll keep doing the detective work to keep you informed.

Soooo what do we think?

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

Yeah, well I say **** Joe sixpack. I'm tired of movies catering to lazy *******s who can't even stand to read a ****ing book.

I mean common. Oh, yeah, like the other parts of the book are so much more believable than this. The squid is just jumping the shark....too much..too weird...

a violent energy storm from but not actually from a man who was made all powerful from a stock comic book atomic mishap who is naked and blue is the much better, more modern, more believable option to go with.

I'm not saying I defend it (as noted by my sig. just saying I can see the reasoning.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

I'm not saying I defend it (as noted by my sig. just saying I can see the reasoning.

Yeah sorry about that Schmidlapp, I wasn't directing my BS at you.

I resent the fact that they want us all to accept this and be apologists for their movie and I am simply saying "**** 'em".

Viva la Squid, Indeed.

 

[The Navigator]

Wait...if Dr. M is being framed by Ozy for this tragedy...than why would Ozy make a cancer list to exile him to Mars?

 

[[A]]

Which of us is responsible? Who makes the world?

kudos on not takin' it too bad

 

[cosmicherosa]

They have been talking about staying accurate with the story, yet they are changing the big build up at the end? Offer it as an alternate ending, not the official.

Unfortunately, I see them releasing the Manhattan frame job as the mass release, with the real ending being for the Essential Watchmen DVD.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

Wait...if Dr. M is being framed by Ozy for this tragedy...than why would Ozy make a cancer list to exile him to Mars?

Yeah, and then we have stuff like the comedian without his gimp mask and no one realizing he was Blake. The problem for filmakers is that this book is incredibly structured. Many things depends on one another in the story--events upon events, etc.

I can answer your question. He does it so that after the world thinks that Doc fried 9 of their cities, he's still on mars--watching their every move--so they better play nice and behave. Nice huh?

Do yourself a favor and read the "interview gone bad" scene with Manhattan from the Tse script. Ugh, it's ****ing dreadful. Adrian is there as some kind of moderator and Janey Slater actually shows up a la Maury Provich. She's all, "God Damn you, Jon" and he freaks out because she's actually there. Super duper lameness.

As a fan it will make you want to tear your own face off and crap blood.

 

[The Navigator]

Yeah, and then we have stuff like the comedian without his gimp mask and no one realizing he was Blake. The problem for filmakers is that this book is incredibly structured. Many things depends on one another in the story--events upon events, etc.

I can answer your question. He does it so that after the world thinks that Doc fried 9 of their cities, he's still on mars--watching their every move--so they better play nice and behave. Nice huh?

Do yourself a favor and read the "interview gone bad" scene with Manhattan from the Tse script. Ugh, it's ****ing dreadful. Adrian is there as some kind of moderator and Janey Slater actually shows up a la Maury Provich. She's all, "God Damn you, Jon" and he freaks out because she's actually there. Super duper lameness.

As a fan it will make you want to tear your own face off and crap blood.

Yikes.

Edit: Wait, why is Adrian there as a moderator? He's a CEO!

I guess it gives him something to do...

 

[The Guard]

Adrian was a guest, wasn't he? Not a moderator. He was there because he was the Smartest Man in The World and a former hero, and because he and Manhattan were friends and allies. It's a moot point, because in the latest drafts, it's back to being more of just Jon and the host.

This isn't really "news", per se. It's something that's been known/suspected for some time. I guess we'll see if this is indeed the case. Regardless, Veidt framing Dr. Manhattan instead of using a genetically engineered psycho-squid has been a part of every Tse draft. The attack comes after Dr. Manhattan leaves Earth.

This is a change, but I don't see how it actually contradicts the third act of WATCHMEN. In Hayter's, he simply created a solar machine to fire into New York. Tse came up with this idea, I believe, not Hayter.

It's not as "layered" a plan as the book, but it's appropriate, it's thematically relevant, and it creates the same fear of the unknown, or in this case, a fear of the "watchmen". Which then ties into the overall themes of the story much better than the random alien squid (as cool as it is) ever did.

"Who watches the watchmen?"

The "silhouettes" have far more thematic impact than bloody dead bodies ever could. Easily. Bodies are bodies. Gore is gore. I find the silhouettes more powerful, if not as visceral.

And...I realize they said "the ending", but why some of you think the movie won't end with the kid finding Rorschach's journal is beyond me. Come on, people. Read between the lines. Or did you think they were just going to end the movie with the disaster?

Someone want to explain to me how making the attack bigger lessens the impact? The attack was never a small, personal one, we just happened to see a small, personal part of it involving characters we'd met throughout the graphic novel. And we're still going to see that (albeit not all of it). I was never terribly "invested" in any of the "supporting cast" of WATCHMEN (though I understand and respect their inclusion). I just recognized the tragedy for what it was. A tragedy involving real people, that showed how utterly pointless all their differences were. I don't think excising some of that material is Snyder and company thinking they're better than Moore and Gibbons. It's obviously more of a screentime issue.

As i said, scripts change and there was another draft written that we DON'T have, not to mention the changes that occur during shooting. I know The Guard has read it. Not sure if he has it though. Maybe he can spare some details?

What we need to hear is a more detailed description of this ending. What we have is rather scant: "Yea, this happend and that happened. The end." We need details. Spoil the damn thing.

Ok. What would you like to know?

 

[S.D. Plissken]

Yikes.

Edit: Wait, why is Adrian there as a moderator? He's a CEO!

I guess it gives him something to do...

He's not even the moderator. He's just there. He sponsors the program.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

Adrian was a guest, wasn't he? Not a moderator. He was there because he was the Smartest Man in The World and a former hero, and because he and Manhattan were friends and allies. It's a moot point, because in the latest drafts, it's back to being more of just Jon and the host.

This is good news because most of the early Tse script is total garbage.

The attack comes after Dr. Manhattan leaves Earth.

Leaves to Mars, or leaves permanently?

It's not as "layered" a plan as the book, but it's appropriate, it's thematically relevant, and it creates the same fear of the unknown, or in this case, a fear of the "watchmen". Which then ties into the overall themes of the story much better than the random alien squid (as cool as it is) ever did.

"Who watches the watchmen?"

I strongly disagree. "Who watches the watchmen" was never about a fear of the unknown. It was a statement directed at the vigilante crimefighters that were taking the place of government law enforcement and that angered the common man of this alternate universe. It could easily be summed up as "who are you to stand as the law? who gave you the right?" It's not a fear of the unknown, it's a fear of facism.

In regards to the ending both attacks have the same effect because it's an alien attack on humankind, and although Doc isn't an alien, many human beings regard him as something otherworldy and alien, godlike, etc.
But the Manhattan frameup fails because he is an AMERICAN government operative, not a UNCONNECTED ALIEN threat from another world/dimension/planet (whatever).

In other words: There is someone for the world to blame at the end of all of this : The American Government. Why? Because Manhattan served as their operative. He is tied to them and is their responsibility. The other countries, in reality, would see this as an American ****up and attack the US. This is why the Manhattan frameup fails to acheive the same effect that the alien attack does in the book. The squid is arbitrary, and to the american public and the rest of the world it's actually from another planet and therefore it's a more frightening threat. It's attack would actually produce a worldwide stalemate.

At the end of the book, you had Russia explicitly putting aside hostilities and openly offering aid to the US. You won't have that here because it makes no sense. Russia would blame the US for creating a monster, and failing to control it. The rest of the world would share the same sentiment.

What we have at the end of the Manhattan frameup is nations that are not only without any trust for one another to a even greater degree, but now all of them will focus completely on themselves and their own security, their fear of Manhattan, and their hatred of the Incompetent American government responsible for these attacks. The end.

The "silhouettes" have far more thematic impact than bloody dead bodies ever could. Easily. Bodies are bodies. Gore is gore. I find the silhouettes more powerful, if not as visceral.

Again, I disagree and it seems I'm not alone. We both know it's not about the gore.

I don't know about you, but seeing my loved ones bloodied and smoking in the streets accompanied by a huge ****ing alien squid crushed into a nearby building would be much more horrific than empty streets and cute little shadows. This is probably about getting an R rating from the dickless MPAA, I doubt it's an artistic choice.

And...I realize they said "the ending", but why some of you think the movie won't end with the kid finding Rorschach's journal is beyond me. Come on, people. Read between the lines. Or did you think they were just going to end the movie with the disaster?

Seymour is the ending of the film. At least that's what the script indicates.

Someone want to explain to me how making the attack bigger lessens the impact. The attack was never a small, personal one, we just happened to see a small, personal part of it involving characters we'd met throughout the graphic novel. And we're still going to see that. I was never terribly "invested" in any of the "supporting cast" of WATCHMEN. I just recognized the tragedy for what it was. A tragedy involving real people, that showed how utterly pointless all their differences were. I don't think excising some of that material is Snyder and company thinking they're better than Moore and Gibbons. It's obviously more of a screentime issue.

If you want to know why this matters, it has been discussed at length. Just read some of the previous responses I've made and others have made on the issue. This is another straw man. I never said the attack was small--no one here did. Small on a global scale (as opposed to internationalizing it as in the film), but not small in bodycount. It was personal, because we got to know all of these smaller characters.

I just thought it was an incredibly cool visual technique to show the countdown to ground zero from 5 different perspectives. It would have been amazing to see in the film and I think it's a missed opportunity regardless of running time concerns.

 

[Hurm...]

After reading the Page thing, I think there keeping the squid. I'm happy either way, as long as the story flows and makes sense. It's just a safer route to go with a squid.

For all we know, Snyder might have pulled a Singer and shown people a screening with the altered ending so then they would be surprised by the changed ending when it hits theaters.

This is what Bryan Singer did for X2 in terms of Jean Grey.

 

[the_tortel]

The poll options s u c k

I second that, no offense

I would have liked to have kept the squid, but I think snyder can pull it off, I mean I HOPE

 

[Hurm...]

^^ Doesn't sound that bad, actually. It's serves as the same purpose, as long as Veidt doesn't frame Manhatten at the very end, I'll accept it. If he does frame Manhatten...then the ending is ******ed.


I'm 100% sure that Snyder kept Rorschach's journal ending. That IS in the movie. Snyder wouldn't take THAT out.

 

[S.D. Plissken]

^^ Doesn't sound that bad, actually. It's serves as the same purpose, as long as Veidt doesn't frame Manhatten at the very end, I'll accept it. If he does frame Manhatten...then the ending is ******ed.


I'm 100% sure that Snyder kept Rorschach's journal ending. That IS in the movie. Snyder wouldn't take THAT out.

Adrian does frame Manhattan, that's the whole point of the new and improved ending.

and another thing--never take filmmakers at their word, you'll always be dissapointed that way. Studio pressure and money makes them crazy and unreliable in general.

More SPOILERS from http://spoilertv-movies.blogspot.com/2008/10/details-of-watchmen-from-early.html

Details of Watchmen From Early Screening
Posted by The ODI at 20:53 (Comments: 4)
Labels: Watchmen



Hey All,
Earlier this week, a private screening for Watchmen was held in Portland. Shortly after the screening a couple of fans started posting details of the movie on a forum.

The content below contains MAJOR SPOILERS about the movie so if you do not want to be spoiled do not read it. Even if you have read the graphic novel it seems like some things were changed or did not appear in the movie. So you will still be spoiled.

Thanks to BlackDoomShadow for the details.

Spoiler

Thread title: “I just saw this movie and I loved it.”

Note from BDS: The users who saw the movie are mc1872 and Haggardtrish. Their answers are in bold.

mc1872: I live in Portland and they showed it at the Lloyd center theatre. They had tight security and a line a mile long. You couldn't even bring in a camera phone and had to sign an agreement not to talk about it. This is the ultimate super hero movie. It has action, comedy, violence, sex, nudity, good dialogue, twists at the end, heros die. I think the people in the theatre loved the movie too. It's basically about trying to stop the world from going into nuclear war. Any questions I'll answer. There are two characters that are my favorite. [Rorschach] and Dr. Manhattan. I can't believe of all places they showed this in Portland. The movie is unfinished and there is a whole lot of wires and cables, and green screen place holders that need to be filled in but for the most part it was amazing. Definitely go see this move.

King_Kossie: Rorschach bro. How was Matthew Goode? How did his dialogue sound?

mc1872: He was probably the top super hero in the movie besides Dr. Manhattan. He was pretty good and his dialogue was interesting at some points. Not even close to the best character in the movie but he is a very rick man in the movie. He is the first of all the super heros to reveal his identity. On top of having the best fighting skills he is called the "smartest man" in the world. So he has a lot of things planned out.

King_Kossie: Ok, to be completely honest, I doubt you saw it. .

Haggardtrish: I dont know the OP, but I was at the same screening...I do have to laugh at the whole thing of making everyone sign a disclosure agreement and the first thing people do is get online to talk about it.

Kent_Weirdo: Can you tell us anything? Squid? Yes, or no? Or maybe you're all full of manure. Wouldn't doubt it, internet these days...

Haggardtrish: There was no squid.

Kent_Weirdo: If that's true...Geez, I don't know what to think anymore...

Oreodogvomit: Hurm... have to investigate further. What did Ozy use if there was no squid?

Haggardtrish: He and Dr Manhattan built a machine to mimic the powers of Dr Manhattan, under the guise of "free energy" to solve the energy crisis. Unbeknown to Manhattan, he used the machine to set off an atomic bomb like thing in various large cities around the world.

NitroForce: When you see Night Owl screaming in the snow, what is he screaming at?
Directordirectors: I love how we're all asking a question and receiving an answer we have no way of confirming. If there's no Squid, it's a shame, because the ending with the Squid could have made for some real terror.

Haggardtrish: The death of Rorschach [in response to the question about Nite Owl screaming]

Oreodogvomit: Ah, thank you. If that is true then it is similar to the older scripts we have read and not the book. The moral checkmate is indeed intact though.

King_Kossie: I'm pleased if this is indeed the ending, thanks trish.

Oreodogvomit: how did you get your pass?

Haggardtrish: I dont know how the OP got their pass, but I got mine just by seeing a movie at Lloyd in the previous week. Basically they approached people saying that they were doing a test screening of a movie that they werent telling the name of, and if you were interested in being a part of it and were within the ages of 17-39, all you had to do was sign up. Pretty awesome.

Oreodogvomit: Yeah that's what we have been hearing. Were there a lot of pissed off fans there tonight?

NitroForce: Can you tell us the end of the movie? What was Veidt's plan? What did he do?

Haggardtrish: There didnt seem to be...not that I saw anyway. They were pretty good at keeping it quiet what movie they were showing, so I think a large majority of people in the audience had no idea what they were going to see outside of knowing it was a "adult oriented superhero movie to be released next year"...from what I heard from others a lot of people were expecting the Wolverine movie. From what I could gather from the crowd afterward, most people who saw it either loved it or were indifferent...

Oreodogvomit: hmm. It leaked yesterday that it was happening at your theater. A lot of fans thought they could show up and try to get in but the randomly selected audience from last week foiled that.

Haggardtrish: The only people I saw being turned away were the ones without the invites that were handed out....no one seemed particularly upset by it though just like "Oh alright that sucks" and leaving.

NitroForce: When you see Night Owl screaming in the snow, what is he screaming at?

mc1872: The reason he was screaming is because Rorschach had just been blown up by Dr. Manhattan. Rorschach was going to tell the truth to the media that they just killed all those people to stop the war. All that would do was cost more lives than had already been saved though, and probably lead to the end of the world. Dr. Manhattan couldn't risk it so he killed Rorschach who was an awesome character. I'm still pissed that they killed him.

Oreodogvomit: Can either of you tell us how the film was introduced? Was there a Warner Bros rep? Did Veidt have an accent?

mc1872: Some bald guy stand in front of us all and says we are the first crowd in the world to see this movie: Watchmen. Then he talks about how it's not complete and we'll notice some graphics are missing but to understand it's still unfinished. That Ozy guy sounded kind of strange, I don't know what kind of accent he had but he hid it well.

Oreodogvomit: Thanks.

Bish-Fiscuit: WAS THERE A SQUID?!

Kent_Weirdo: DID- YOU- SEE- A- GIANT- SQUID- NEAR- THE- END- OR- NOT!?

Oreodogvomit: Thanks, most of us have read the book and we love it. You might want to put the word "spoilers" in the title because we are all going to ask you a lot of stuff. What I would like to know is...Was Ozy's monster squid at the end?

mc1872: You doubt I saw it. I can tell you what happened at every single part of the movie. If you want. As a matter of fact here's a little bit of some spoilers. The movie starts with the character the Comedian getting his apartment broken into by a masked man you find out later was [Ozymandias]. They get in this fight and he throws the Comedian out of the window killing him. [Rorschach] or however you spell it investigates it then goes to find this other guy who is a retired super hero. Anyway Russie is threatening to start nuclear war with the US which is going to lead to world destruction. Dr. Manhattan is working on figuring out a way to stop all of it. The story gets kind of complex and I'm not going to reveal everything but why would I lie about it?

Oreodogvomit: ok what was the second scene of the movie, after Blake gets thrown out the window?

mc1872: After he gets thrown out of the window? It shows the blood on his smiley face button and then it goes to another scene. I think that's where they start showing the flash backs to how all the super heros got started. It was like a bunch of cops trying to do good and then they started getting thrown in jail and had to stop. Some super heros retired because it was against the law to wear masks. [Rorschach] goes to the Comedians apartment and goes into his closet to find a little red button. He presses it and then this room opens with the Comedians costume.

NitroForce: Was there a monster at the end on New York? Were there countless dead bloody bodies all over the city? Again, was there a monster on New York? Did it have tentacles?

GrieVen: Even though the movie wasn't finished and a lot of the effects sound like they're not done, how did the cgi Dr. Manhattan look? Was he believable as a character, or did the cgi take you out of it?

mc1872: My brother said there were parts where you could see Dr. Manhattans suit or something but I never noticed. What I did notice were the green screen dots all over [Rorschach]’s mask for the CGI shadow that movies around on the surface of it. Also you can see the wires on the characters harness when they jump or get thrown around. Dr. Manhattan does all this awesome stuff like take apart complex engines and reassemble them. He teleports people and can change the tint of his blue.

Bish-Fiscuit: Please tell us how it ended.

mc1872: I can tell you how it ended but do you really want to know. This is probably the best super hero movie I've ever seen and you want me to spoil the ending?

Directordirectors: Please! Yes! Go!

Bish-Fiscuit: We've all read the book. We just want to know if it has the same ending as the book.

mc1872: Okay here it is. No there is no squid in the book although they have this space ship thing that always comes out of this river. The ending is basically the Ozy guy is in like Antarctica. He blows up New York and a whole bunch of other cities with the atomic bomb or something like that. He did it in a way that it would look like Dr. Manhattan was responsible and so Russia and the USA could come together as friends and go after Dr. Manhattan. Thus creating peace around the world. Dr. Manhattan realizes that by him being framed this will stop the world from blowing it's self up. [Rorschach] or however you spell his name, I know some guy is doubting my credibility becauae I won't copy and paste the correct spelling from the front of the IMDB page, he says he is going to tell the world that they just blew up all those innocent people. Dr. Manhattan can't let him do that because then war will break out again and the world will destroy it's self. So he kills [Rorschach]. Then there is this stupid moment between Silk Spectre and Nite owl. A little more panning around by the camera and the movie ends.

NitroForce: Does Adrian Veidt say the following line: "I did it 35 minutes ago"?

mc1872: Yes he says that about setting into motion the destruction of all the major cities with the bombs. They thought they were going to stop him from finishing his plan but he planned ahead. That's why he said he did it 35 minutes ago.

 

[Maze]

WATCHING THE ENDING




There have been repeated reports circulating the net regarding the ending of Zack Snyder’s “Watchmen" movie that the ending has been radically changed from the original. We’re not talking everyone wearing Rorschach’s mask or anything,

Spoiler

but the perceived and bizarre extra-world threat of a pan dimensional Cthulhu god alien landing on New York killing millions is gone.

Or has it?



I understand that the ending people have been seeing is just one possible filmed ending.

Spoiler

That the movie’s FX farm has already created big squid effects.

And that there will be more than one ending of the film tested before general release. Expect to see all of them in the two/three disc DVD.

I really hope so not because the squid has to be there, it could be replaced by something else, but because the reported ending just doesn't make any sense.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18501


Thanks to quiller9

 

[S.D. Plissken]

I really hope so not because the squid has to be there, it could be replaced by something else, but because the reported ending just doesn't make any sense.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18501


Thanks to quiller9

Thanks, this is good news.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

^^ Doesn't sound that bad, actually. It's serves as the same purpose, as long as Veidt doesn't frame Manhatten at the very end, I'll accept it. If he does frame Manhatten...then the ending is ******ed.


I'm 100% sure that Snyder kept Rorschach's journal ending. That IS in the movie. Snyder wouldn't take THAT out.

Actually it doesn't. There is an alien quality to it. Band to together to face the unknown. Manhattan isn't unknown. No squid, no journal, no service. I can't believe they also seemingly have changed Rorschach's end.

 

[Hurm...]

I really hope so not because the squid has to be there, it could be replaced by something else, but because the reported ending just doesn't make any sense.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18501


Thanks to quiller9

Exactly what I thought ( you can see from a few posts up). I think they did

Spoiler

Create 2 or more endings to test it to fans and/or the general public's reaction to it. This also prevents the ending being leaked online to spoil the general public's view on the ending as well as keeping the fanboys guessing. We have a conspiracy on our hands, men. Only way to find out the ending is on March 6th. But I honestly think that there is more then one ending and that would also explain why they didn't add Rorschach's journal. It's to keep the audience, and fanboys, surprised. Just as they felt when they first read the book.

 

[Hurm...]

Actually it doesn't. There is an alien quality to it. Band to together to face the unknown. Manhattan isn't unknown. No squid, no journal, no service. I can't believe they also seemingly have changed Rorschach's end.

Touche.

 

[Solidus]

Yea this reminds me exactaly when fans, including myself freaked out when LOTR, when PJ announced he was cutting out the Scouring of the Shire. Which trust me, many people thought that was the whole point of the story, and that it was needed. And PJ of course completely changed it, but what he did, worked for the movie, and actually felt like a small improvement.

And reading more into it, it does seem to be a tad better of a decision. Because the squid, a lot of people would be like WTF? More confused then anything.

 

[CaptainGenerica]

At the end of the book, you had Russia explicitly putting aside hostilities and openly offering aid to the US. You won't have that here because it makes no sense. Russia would blame the US for creating a monster, and failing to control it. The rest of the world would share the same sentiment.

I disagree. That will only happen if Zack Snyder and the script writers decide to make it so. And they won't, because it wouldn't serve the story. By the same logic, Russia only offered aid to the US in the GN because Alan Moore decided that he wanted them to, and because it developed the message of the book. Veidt's plan is an outlandish plot device either way you slice it; its value comes from thematic content, not realism or lack thereof. The GN's ending is no more realistic than the movie's.

With the squid, for example, Russia could have just as plausibly used the incident as an excuse to attack or quarantine the US ("look what horrors the Americans have unleashed on Earth!"), but they didn't. It plays out the way it plays out because it needs to to serve the story.

Not saying I like the change necessarily, mind you. I think it has its pros and cons. But I don't think that that particular argument against it (the "the squid would work better" argument) is a sound one.