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[Drz]

I would have loved if Doom brought his own flag with him and impaled it causing him to notice the energy.

Wasn't Doom's cape the American flag in this movie?

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Fantastic Four is a film that's been muddled in controversy. The film was only made so FOX could keep the team's rights. Josh Trank behaved poorly on set. FOX hated Trank's vision halfway through production.
Regardless of what's true or not, it is quickly apparent while watching the film that something went wrong.

The entire cast, which includes Kate Mara, Miles Teller, Jamie Bell, and Michael B. Jordan, all handle their roles respectfully. In the ending of the film, they actually balance off each other decently enough.

Unfortunately, the actual film isn't as strong as the four actors. Not one bit. To put it simply, the first 50 minutes of this film is give or take, Trank's original vision for this film. While somewhat dull, it's grounded and rooted in science. There's a strong sci-fi vibe to the plot and the transportation to this other dimension. But after the accident, everything falls apart. This is the point of the film where one can clearly tell the massive amount of reshoots happened. Tonally inconsistent with the rest of the film, it becomes cartoonish, dull, and ultimately hackneyed.

The last 20-25 minutes might be the worst pitiful excuse for a superhero 3rd act I've seen in some time. I won't even begin to discuss Doom.

It seems like FOX did not let Trank make the vision of Fantastic Four he wanted, which is a shame. It would've at least been more decent compared to what they gave us.

3-4/10

 

[ShadowBoxer]

I just got back from seeing this at an early bird screening for five dollars. I knew this movie was bad going in, but I had to see it for myself. I feel bad for hardcore FF fans. I am not a diehard fan ( more casual) and I was trying to remain open minded about this movie. But this movie is TRASH!!!!! It's not the cast fault this movie is what it is, is the terrible script and direction. The sadest part about all this is that the movie clearly had the potential to be a good sci fi and Fantastic Four movie. Instead, we get a boring lifeless movie where there is no real sense of friendship between the four characters. Sue and Johhny have little screen time together, Ben and Reed friendship is the most fleshed out but that's not saying much, and Jonny and Sue barely even interact with Ben at all.

Then we get to Victor who just turns evil for no reason and just wants to destroy the world. His look in this movie is AWFUL. There is no real action in this movie and the climax is a JOKE. Did mention the horrible CGI? Ben looks crappy and so does Doom and Reed's special effects. Johnny and Sue's CGI wasn't that bad. Also, what was up with some of the crappy dialogue? Shoe horned in stuff like Ben's abusive brother saying "It's Clobbering Time!" And Sue straight up calling Victor Dr. Doom in the beginning of this movie. Also, this movie has serious continuity problems ( due to the reshoots). It got distracted by Sue's hair color changing during scenes and scenes where Reed has facial hair and then magically doesn't.

I can honestly say all the people that been hating this for months are justified. But I wouldn't blame the cast, they are talented actors it just this terrible s riot and direction by Trank or whoever directed this. Fox should be embarrassed and I wouldn't even have released this. I would instead of just made a deal with Netflix or something. Lastly, screw this movie for trying to copy Avengers Age of Ultron ending by cutting of Reed before he says Fantastic Four.

5/10

 

[Tony Stark]

It was pretty late last night when I posted my review, but just a few more things I wanted to point out.

WTH was up with the disjointed tone of this movie? At one point I felt like I'm watching Super 8, the next moment, Interstellar, the next moment, the Fault in our Stars, the next moment Fast and Furious, the next moment Hell Raiser, then it kind of becomes a superhero movie, then it just ends.

WTH was up with Sue's hair? For all the complaints of Jessica Alba's weird wig and contacts in ROTSS, I'll never complain again. With their budget could they not afford hair and makup artists?

How does Sue become an afterthought in this film. She literally has no purpose. She was a much stronger character in the Story films. She has no place here and only use her as a plot device to find Reed. And how the hell do you not showcase her powers? She rarely at all turns invisible. There's a scene of her training, and they spent more time on her flying with Reed and Ben. Just sloppy.

Where in the heck does Victor get his head popping power? What a stupid power to have. Not based on anything in the 616 or UFF. Whoever said they ripped of scanners wasn't kidding.

Which brings me to....

There is not one freaking original moment in this film. Every frame, every line delivered is ripped off from another film. "There is no Victor, only Doom" was this meant to draw a laugh or be funny? I kept waiting for Bill Murray to pop out.

The idea that Trank had a great movie that was ruined by the studio is a fantasy. The idea that the first half of this movie is good, is fantasy. Every frame, every line of this movie sucks. Batman and Robin is Citizen Cain compared to this ****.

The worst thing is that everyone saw this coming. I remember being on this site a year ago, talking about how they hadn't had a single scene shot, they were still doing pre-production work, while shooting. This was never the mark of a movie that would be successful.

But the worst sin of this movie is that there is ZERO reason any of these characters should be working together. There was no rivaly between Ben and Johnny, only mildly hinted at in the last scene. There's nothing but a **** tease as to Sue and Reed's relationship. And then there's Toby Kebbell running around playing this aloof anti-establishment guy, because this film takes the cheap way out in making the government the bad guys.

There's no nuanced subtlety like in Batman Begins, or Iron Man where a few bad people were taking advantage of the system and profiting off soldiers dying or bad cops profiting off a corrupt system, with not enough strong willed people to fight back. No the government in this is the stereotypical bad big brother, who steps in and tries to profit off these people's misfortunes.

Sorry folks, in my book this wins worst comic book movie of all time. Yes worse than Superman III, worst than Batman and Robin, worse than that 1990 Captain America made for home video release.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

The tone was all over the place here. They wanted a dark/ gritty take on Fanastic Four and what we got was a boring lifeless movie.

 

[Negrotigre]

I'm shocked and angered by how horrid Fant4stic is. The movie's tedious and boring, the FX is inconsistent, there's almost no action, and Dr. Doom is the worst villain ever seen in a superhero movie. This movie fails on every level!

Green Lantern > Batman and Robin > Last Airbender > Fant4stic

Score: F

 

[ShadowBoxer]

That was not Dr.Doom. I don't know what that was. He was like a cheap boss from a crappy video game.

 

[WilliamK99]

Had some free time while kids in school and had off from work early but locked out of my house,so I decided to go to movies, paid for Vacation which I actually enjoyed and on my way out noticed Fantastic Four was starting in a few minutes so I walked in and saw 6 people in a theatre that seats 400+, once lights went down I think about 20 were in there, but that is amazingly bad.

What was equally bad was the movie itself, usually when I watch a movie I just go with the flow and suspend my disbelief, but I cannot believe how bad this movie was. The dialogue was "After-School Special" bad...I cringed at how horrible some of these lines were. The lack of action was noticeable and did not like how.

Spoiler

They used the FF members as Governmental weapons

I was excited halfway through when it looked like we would see a hero on hero battle but instead was left disappointed. I am also am curious how

Spoiler

Ben was able to knock out Mr. Fantastic with a head butt, when Mr. Fantastic should have been flexible enough to take it...

The end when they magically could breath really ticked me off too.. Overall I just couldn't get lost in the movie and as the movie went on I got angrier and angrier..

In Summary

What I just saw was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen in my life. At no point in the rambling dialogue, and incoherent plot was there even close to anything that could be considered a rational movie. Everyone in the theatre is now dumber for having watched it. I award the movie no stars, and may God have mercy on Fox Executive's soul.

 

[YJ1]

1/10

This effort is so awful that it actually offends me. If this fiasco had been just another Sci-fi Channel type movie I may not have found it offensively bad. I would roll my eyes at its awfulness and move on. Basically, treat it like a Sharknado level movie.

However, taking literary characters that are complex and for years deserved the title of “World’s Greatest Comic Magazine” that appeared on their cover and reduce them to this inane drivel is outrageous. Everything about this movie is a waste of film and of talent. The lead up and first act is dull as possible with the characters having the depth of a mud puddle. Still, it was mediocre enough to keep the viewer’s attention. Then, they completely forgo any kind of second act at all and jump forward in time. Finally, they deliver the worst concluding act and lack of payoff in comic book adaptation history.

It felt as if I was watching a school assignment or test given to a child that clearly couldn’t handle the material. It actually feels like Fox was the teacher and Josh Trank the child and the teacher gave the student a certain amount of time to finish. When the kid clearly was having trouble the teacher either asked other incompetent students to step in and try and help or else the overwhelmed kid just started scribbling anything to fill the page. The movie honestly gives off that vibe. How does something this incompetently pieced together hit the summer big screen? Whether it was a combination of an overwhelmed director, an awful script, lack of budget or budget being stripped away at the last second by a panicked studio or straight up studio interference it doesn’t matter. What was released in theatres is an abomination to the genre and painful to watch.

 

[bullets]

I actually liked the film. The hatred is way overblown. The problem is that it's a slow burn sci-fi film and then tries to fast forward to a superhero extravaganza in the last act. The cast was great , there's a good amount of character development and I liked the focus being on Reed. Also the horror element was interesting and reminded me of the fly. It made sense. The specials effects are hit or miss. They did a good job with use of the powers. I wish we got to see more. I didn't like the look of Doom , but it made sense in the context of the film. He's just not Doom. Overall I think Fox screwed this up. The last scene was cringeworthy. It's a shame we probably won't get a sequel. I'd like to see this cast get another shot.

 

[WilliamK99]

I actually liked the film. The hatred is way overblown. The problem is that it's a slow burn sci-fi film and then tries to fast forward to a superhero extravaganza in the last act. The cast was great , there's a good amount of character development and I liked the focus being on Reed. Also the horror element was interesting and reminded me of the fly. It made sense. The specials effects are hit or miss. They did a good job with use of the powers. I wish we got to see more. I didn't like the look of Doom , but it made sense in the context of the film. He's just not Doom. Overall I think Fox screwed this up. The last scene was cringeworthy. It's a shame we probably won't get a sequel. I'd like to see this cast get another shot.

I don't think we watched the same movie... Even as a slow burn sci-fi film it sucked, the dialogue laughable and huge plot holes like how they needed suits to breath in one scene then magically did not need air second scene...

 

[bullets]

I don't think we watched the same movie... Even as a slow burn sci-fi film it sucked, the dialogue laughable and huge plot holes like how they needed suits to breath in one scene then magically did not need air second scene...

I'm not sure I remember that. Are you talking about them not needing suits at the end ?

 

[Drz]

They probably didn't need the suits because Dr. Doom had changed the terrain so much.

 

[Charlatan]

I enjoyed it. Fresh take. They totally made the familial connection real to me. Will buy the Blu Ray when it comes out. I don't get the haters.

 

[Charlatan]

They probably didn't need the suits because Dr. Doom had changed the terrain so much.

and it was sucking air in through the hole. anywhere near that area would have had breathable air. matter of fact there was oxygen present before because Johnny caught fire. I don't think they "needed" the suits to breathe as much as it was a precaution.

 

[X-Maniac]

The hatred is indeed way overblown. A desperate campaign to try to force the rights back to Disney/Marvel so they can have Galactus and Surfer.

One big thing to refute that has been asserted in comments a gazillion times over the past few months. Please note there is no 'blogger Victor Domashev' in the movie.

Solid origin tale (though that went on too long), it definitely felt like the Fantastic Four, and it wasn't too dark or horror-tinged.

I didn't like the last scene with the attempts to choose a team name, I was not 100 per cent sold on the look of Thing or Doom, I thought Doom's motivations needed to have been established better, and the slow-burn origin stuff went on too long. Also, the film felt too short - partly because the final battle and the effects on Earth on the other side of the portal needed to be stretched out (and thought out) a bit more.

But by no means a trainwreck. Good attempt, though, by the Marvel minions at poisoning everyone against the movie in a right reversion campaign.

 

[LostSon88]

Agreed. I get it was pretty damn mediocre but with some of these "reviews" you'd think FOX came over to your house and punched your mothers in the face...

 

[def28]

The world kind of hates this right now though. It's not just a specific section of fans. This is way beyond that now. And there's been confirmation from the Director and others that the film was tampered with. So something went wrong regardless who's fault it was.

Alot of different people hate this thing. To call all those people Marvel fanboys, just cause you don't agree with their opinion is just as low. While there is zero wrong with liking it, it's in no way a popular opinion.

 

[Eddie]

The hatred is indeed way overblown. A desperate campaign to try to force the rights back to Disney/Marvel so they can have Galactus and Surfer.

One big thing to refute that has been asserted in comments a gazillion times over the past few months. Please note there is no 'blogger Victor Domashev' in the movie.

Solid origin tale (though that went on too long), it definitely felt like the Fantastic Four, and it wasn't too dark or horror-tinged.

I didn't like the last scene with the attempts to choose a team name, I was not 100 per cent sold on the look of Thing or Doom, I thought Doom's motivations needed to have been established better, and the slow-burn origin stuff went on too long. Also, the film felt too short - partly because the final battle and the effects on Earth on the other side of the portal needed to be stretched out (and thought out) a bit more.

But by no means a trainwreck. Good attempt, though, by the Marvel minions at poisoning everyone against the movie in a right reversion campaign.

Perhaps you're not aware, but it has now been confirmed that Domashev the blogger was indeed part of the original shoot. It was changed because of the negative fan reaction.

 

[bullets]

I enjoyed it. Fresh take. They totally made the familial connection real to me. Will buy the Blu Ray when it comes out. I don't get the haters.

This film has its fair share of problems. I just don't think it's terrible like some do. Some of the hate seems over the top. If you can get past what they did with Dr. Doom and accept what they went for it's ok. I'll probably get the blu ray.

Fox isn't going to make some deal with Marvel. They don't need this franchise and will sit on it for another five years while pumping out X-men movies.

 

[X-Maniac]

The world kind of hates this right now though. It's not just a specific section of fans. This is way beyond that now. And there's been confirmation from the Director and others that the film was tampered with. So something went wrong regardless who's fault it was.

Alot of different people hate this thing. To call all those people Marvel fanboys, just cause you don't agree with their opinion is just as low. While there is zero wrong with liking it, it's in no way a popular opinion.

I think it's absurd hyperbole to say 'the world' hates it. I saw it tonight and the cinema was almost full, I heard no one badmouthing it on the way out (I was listening out for that), no shouting during the movie. I heard one group of teens say it was 'better than the first one' and that 'the last part saved it', so those people preferred it to Tim Story's film and liked the final battle and superhero stuff.

Step outside the geek bubble. Ordinary people see things without having all the baggage of what's been said on internet forums.

As for 'tampered with', many films have additional filming, reshoots and are otherwise reworked during and after production. We don't know what Trank's complete vision was for the film so we don't know if it was better or worse. The 'tampering' may have improved it for all you know.

I'm not defending the film, other than to say it's not an utter disaster or a trainwreck. It shocked me that it wasn't a total wreck after what i had been reading online all these months. Luckily i didn't let it sway me from seeing the movie.

 

[Eddie]

I think it's absurd hyperbole to say 'the world' hates it. I saw it tonight and the cinema was almost full, I heard no one badmouthing it on the way out (I was listening out for that), no shouting during the movie. I heard one group of teens say it was 'better than the first one' and that 'the last part saved it', so those people preferred it to Tim Story's film and liked the final battle and superhero stuff.

Step outside the geek bubble. Ordinary people see things without having all the baggage of what's been said on internet forums.

As for 'tampered with', many films have additional filming, reshoots and are otherwise reworked during and after production. We don't know what Trank's complete vision was for the film so we don't know if it was better or worse. The 'tampering' may have improved it for all you know.

I'm not defending the film, other than to say it's not an utter disaster or a trainwreck. It shocked me that it wasn't a total wreck after what i had been reading online all these months. Luckily i didn't let it sway me from seeing the movie.

We do know Josh Trank himself isn't happy with the final product. There's a Tweet on all the big entertainment news sites...

 

[X-Maniac]

Perhaps you're not aware, but it has now been confirmed that Domashev the blogger was indeed part of the original shoot. It was changed because of the negative fan reaction.

Well, if so, that was one good thing, though someone named Victor Von Doom who becomes Dr Doom does sound a little hokey in any of these more contemporary movies that try to be grounded in reality. I would not have objected if he had been called Domashev.

I definitely didn't find myself demanding that he have powers of gipsy sorcery. But I would have developed his motivations a lot more, perhaps having him work on some rival project that was beaten by Reed's in the race for funding or success.

 

[LostSon88]

The world kind of hates this right now though. It's not just a specific section of fans. This is way beyond that now. And there's been confirmation from the Director and others that the film was tampered with. So something went wrong regardless who's fault it was.

Alot of different people hate this thing. To call all those people Marvel fanboys, just cause you don't agree with their opinion is just as low. While there is zero wrong with liking it, it's in no way a popular opinion.

It's pretty dramatic to say that "the world hates this", man.

Again, I get people didn't like the movie but the hatred some seem to have towards it is downright disturbing.

 

[X-Maniac]

We do know Josh Trank himself isn't happy with the final product. There's a Tweet on all the big entertainment news sites...

I saw that. But it got deleted, probably because he is contracted to promote his own movie.

The tweet was triggered by the RT reviews. He must have known what the finished film was like some time ago.

In any case, what does it matter what the director thinks? I'm viewing the film to see what I think.