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A man behaving like a man, isn't an issue at all. Women (and men) who take offense with that, who are offended by rugged masculinity, earn the brand "feminazi." They push absurd feminism down people's throats and feel righteous when doing so. That's the definition of fascism. "I disagree with you therefore my opinion/voice is invalid." Yeah, no. I don't subscribe to that and will challenge it at every turn. QT feels the same and refuses to be censored by feminazis who think his characters are "toxic men." Brad Pitt is awesome in this movie. The last thing that came to mind when watching him in this was that he was oozing "toxic" masculinity. He oozed masculinity, which is awesome.
That's another word that needs to go. "Toxic." Its just an attack tool by feminazis.
Although I loathe outrage culture and their little phrases they come up with or revisionist definitions to certain words, there is a difference between masculinity and "toxic" masculinity. The later attitude (act to cover up insecurities really) needs to die off...big time.
Incredibly enjoyable but somewhat flawed. It's Tarantino once again going back to the old age of Hollywood right before summer blockbusters started showing up. It's essentially his sightseeing tour of old Hollywood and he does a great job going through some of shows and movies that were big at the time. While this has a giant cast, the story only focuses on Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt. They get almost all the character development throughout the movie and everything about them works really well. It's probably the most subtle Tarantino movie he's done... up to a point. There's some tonal shifts that happen at the end that I don't think worked as well as he thought. It was like he gave up being sensible and started making a completely different movie, not to mention some extremely subverted expectations with history. Much like his other movies, it's also a bit too long. Overall, it's nowhere near his best film, but it's a fun time-capsule of a film.
8.5/10
1. The Hateful Eight
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Reservoir Dogs
4. Once Upon A Time in Hollywood
5. Jackie Brown
6. Kill Bill: Volume 1
7. Inglourious Basterds
8. Kill Bill: Volume 2
9. Django Unchained
10. Death Proof
A man behaving like a man, isn't an issue at all. Women (and men) who take offense with that, who are offended by rugged masculinity, earn the brand "feminazi." They push absurd feminism down people's throats and feel righteous when doing so. That's the definition of fascism. "I disagree with you therefore my opinion/voice is invalid." Yeah, no. I don't subscribe to that and will challenge it at every turn. QT feels the same and refuses to be censored by feminazis who think his characters are "toxic men." Brad Pitt is awesome in this movie. The last thing that came to mind when watching him in this was that he was oozing "toxic" masculinity. He oozed masculinity, which is awesome.
That's another word that needs to go. "Toxic." Its just an attack tool by feminazis.
I just got out of the movie and I can't decide how I feel about it? I'm gonna have to sit on it for a bit.
That aside, people who think Pitt did better than Leo weren't paying attention. Pitt's character may have been more fun, but Leo's performance was far more nuanced and required much more range.
Unrelated to the movie, but related to this thread: anyone who uses the term "feminazi" when spouting their opinions on women's issues doesn't have an opinion on women's issues worth listening to.
I payed enough attention, bald man. Leo got more to chew on, but it also takes talent to come off as cool and composed as Pitt did here. I've seen Leo do the type of acting he did here many times, where as Pitt hasn't been this smooth since Fight Club. He had the more memorable performance to me, so much so that him competing in the supporting category would be a joke, but easier to get that nom and even a possible win, if them folks offended over violence don't try to get some outrage points for the end.
We can have us a nice knife fight in the park, if you still feel different tho.
I payed enough attention, bald man. Leo got more to chew on, but it also takes talent to come off as cool and composed as Pitt did here. I've seen Leo do the type of acting he did here many times, where as Pitt hasn't been this smooth since Fight Club. He had the more memorable performance to me, so much so that him competing in the supporting category would be a joke, but easier to get that nom and even a possible win, if them folks offended over violence don't try to get some outrage points for the end.
We can have us a nice knife fight in the park, if you still feel different tho.
Pitt was great. Pitt is always great. But he had one mode through the whole movie. It was a very cool mode, but it was one mode. Granted, I think there are more layers to his character than people have been picking up on: As cool as Cliff appears to be, he was pretty sad. He had no friends except his employer, who's friendship was based solely on the current state of his career. But Leo got to display a whole range of acting with his character, which was far more demanding. And he nailed it. Because he's Leonardo f**king DiCaprio.
So. Yeah. Get your crew. In the park. Midnight. Be there.
Pitt wasn't sad at all. He was blissfully minimalist and understated. A man with no real worries and no complaints, sure of himself and careful with his actions.
He was Audie Murphy. He was Gary Cooper. He was Steve McQueen. He was all those guys if they hadn't made it big.
I enjoyed Brad Pitt a ton here and Cliff was my favorite character, but let's not pretend he's the kind of person other men should aspire to be.
He killed his wife for being annoying, for starters.
That's not being a "man's man" or any of that nonsense. That's...something else. That belongs in prison. He was a great and highly entertaining character, but let's not start endorsing his behavior.
I loved the movie and had forgotten about his....uh.... (alleged??) earlier behavior. Was that ever really confirmed? For myself, there's virtually no aspect of his character that I found aspirational. While I liked the character, he's not someone I'd generally hang with. I'm more the wimpy talkative type. I prolly shoulda been a shrink as opposed to an engineer, but, on second thought, people are more annoying than computers and dogs.
I found the movie moved a little bit slow at points, but not when Brad was highlighted. Really good work all around IMO.
Watched this back on Friday night, and would rate it 7/10. Solid, but not great - for me it's one of QT's weaker movies.
I wouldn't call myself a huge fan of QT's movies, especially since I haven't seen them all. I've only seen a few of his most popular ones - Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill 1 and 2, and The Hateful Eight. I'd definitely rank this one below the other four, personally. It felt too long, and wasn't as tightly-edited as it could have been. I get that the longer cuts allowed it to feel more immersive, especially into the time period of 1969, but a lot of scenes could have been trimmed by a bit and wouldn't have sacrificed anything.
I do have to say that one of my favorite parts was watching the "in-movie" filming of the Western that Leo's character was in. It was insightful and hilarious at the same time being able to watch Leo's character break character and respond to the in-movie crew on set, and made me wish that more movies would do that more often.
A question for those who've seen the movie:
In the part when Cliff (Brad Pitt's character) arrived at the old movie ranch and wanted to see George, the hesitance/resistance from the family was obvious, but it wasn't obvious why they were resisting him from seeing George. Did anyone understand that scene?
I think they should both get nods for this. I was reminded of Newman and Redford at times with them. I'm pleasantly surprised by the 40 million opening!
Watched this back on Friday night, and would rate it 7/10. Solid, but not great - for me it's one of QT's weaker movies.
I wouldn't call myself a huge fan of QT's movies, especially since I haven't seen them all. I've only seen a few of his most popular ones - Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill 1 and 2, and The Hateful Eight. I'd definitely rank this one below the other four, personally. It felt too long, and wasn't as tightly-edited as it could have been. I get that the longer cuts allowed it to feel more immersive, especially into the time period of 1969, but a lot of scenes could have been trimmed by a bit and wouldn't have sacrificed anything.
I do have to say that one of my favorite parts was watching the "in-movie" filming of the Western that Leo's character was in. It was insightful and hilarious at the same time being able to watch Leo's character break character and respond to the in-movie crew on set, and made me wish that more movies would do that more often.
A question for those who've seen the movie:
In the part when Cliff (Brad Pitt's character) arrived at the old movie ranch and wanted to see George, the hesitance/resistance from the family was obvious, but it wasn't obvious why they were resisting him from seeing George. Did anyone understand that scene?
I loved the movie and had forgotten about his....uh.... (alleged??) earlier behavior. Was that ever really confirmed? For myself, there's virtually no aspect of his character that I found aspirational. While I liked the character, he's not someone I'd generally hang with. I'm more the wimpy talkative type. I prolly shoulda been a shrink as opposed to an engineer, but, on second thought, people are more annoying than computers and dogs.
I found the movie moved a little bit slow at points, but not when Brad was highlighted. Really good work all around IMO.
Quentin Tarantino tips his hat to a Hollywood and memorable era gone by
PRAISE :
Rick Dalton (Leonardo DiCaprio) is an actor who's career has reached a point of uncertainty. His stunt man/best friend Cliff Booth (Brd Pitt)who carries a dark moment with him.
One of the best things about the film is their bond and how they try to navigate through a constantly changing Hollywood.
Diaprio and Pitt prove how they are still two of the best actor's ever.
As Sharon Tate Margot Robbie captures the fun loving ,wide eyed spirit and love of becoming a movie star.
There are great moments from Kurt Russell,Mikey Madison,Luke Perry,Damian Lewis,Al Pacino,Timothy Olyphant,Bruce Dern,Dakota Fanning,Mike Moh and Zoe Bell.
Tarantino's eye and ear for detail is incredible as he includes visuals,ads and music from the late 60's.
Also for the characters themselves he includes watch closely details.
This is his dream of Hollywood,a fantasy that is also a haunting memory to a Hollywood long gone by.He makes sure to include humor and of course his signature craziness.
PROBLEMS:
The film stalls here and there as it meanders on certain sequences far to long.I definitely started to feel the length of the film's 2 hour and 40 minute run time.
Some characters are definitely short changed.Moments with some are far to short.They definitely dont get the time on screen that was promised in ads and trailers.
I would say 60% of this film Tarantino made for himself.It's his honor and tribute to the actor's of the late 60's and i definitely can go along with most of his vision for this film.Not perfect but very very good.
When I saw this over the weekend, my mind went immediately to Jackie Brown as the film closes in structure and overall pacing. However, this felt like it had less of a plot and more of a glorification of 60s era innocence before the quick swift change of actor glorification and admiration. The most overt theme/message I took from this was the old making way for the new and unfamiliar. Obviously, Dalton’s 8 years old counterpart in the middle half of the film represented the dawn of the new acting wave which focused more on character over the person playing the role.
Overall, it's probably one of Tarantino's most forgettable films which is unfortunate.
When I watched this last week I have to admit I was a bit annoyed at how Quentin wrote Bruce Lee to be a bit of a buffoon and a jackass. Luckily by film's end I was ok with it knowing what he was going for overall. Not sure if anyone else found that a tad annoying at first.
When I watched this last week I have to admit I was a bit annoyed at how Quentin wrote Bruce Lee to be a bit of a buffoon and a jackass. Luckily by film's end I was ok with it knowing what he was going for overall. Not sure if anyone else found that a tad annoying at first.
When I watched this last week I have to admit I was a bit annoyed at how Quentin wrote Bruce Lee to be a bit of a buffoon and a jackass. Luckily by film's end I was ok with it knowing what he was going for overall. Not sure if anyone else found that a tad annoying at first.
This felt in places like Tarantino channeling Richard Linklater. It has this meandering and relaxed hangout vibe. Then at the end it fully becomes a Tarantino movie again.
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