Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

I like OUATIH a lot but I also thought that there was a lot of buildup for a climax that went by way too fast, like being on a really tall roller coaster that takes a long time to get to the top, only to stop short right after the peak when the drop has just started. It ended at its highest point, almost kind of abruptly where it felt a bit jarring. At least to me. But I don't fault the movie for that as much as I do myself for having an insane amount of hype around it considering we were finally getting a Tarantino movie about '60s Hollywood. While I do love the performances from Leo and Brad as well as the Bruce Lee scene, the stuff at Spahn Ranch and the finale, I guess I was just expecting a more eventful movie than what it was. I still think it's more of an enjoyable watch than some of his other films like Hateful Eight, Death Proof and yes, even Reservoir Dogs.
 
I think people on the internet are too quick to label certain films self indulgent because a film spends time on something other than the plot. Films are not machines created simply to deliver plot. This is very much a mood piece that highlights minutiae in fetishistic fashion. The book is the same way. There’s a whole chapter about what Cliff’s favorite foreign films and directors are.
 
I think people on the internet are too quick to label certain films self indulgent because a film spends time on something other than the plot. Films are not machines created simply to deliver plot. This is very much a mood piece that highlights minutiae in fetishistic fashion. The book is the same way. There’s a whole chapter about what Cliff’s favorite foreign films and directors are.

Sure, but everyone has differing tastes. That might work for some people to create a higher level of immersion, but it could be frustrating to eothers.

Just for example. I think Episode 8 of Twin Peaks: the Return is sheer brilliance. But the weirdness of that episode might not work for others.
 
I think people on the internet are too quick to label certain films self indulgent because a film spends time on something other than the plot. Films are not machines created simply to deliver plot. This is very much a mood piece that highlights minutiae in fetishistic fashion. The book is the same way. There’s a whole chapter about what Cliff’s favorite foreign films and directors are.

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As a lifelong fan of David Lynch, I should probably erase "self-indulgent" from my vocabulary.
 
Sure, but everyone has differing tastes. That might work for some people to create a higher level of immersion, but it could be frustrating to eothers.

Just for example. I think Episode 8 of Twin Peaks: the Return is sheer brilliance. But the weirdness of that episode might not work for others.


Well sure. I’m not saying you have to like everything. I just think “indulgent” is shallow criticism. Art is inherently self indulgent. Art is a selfish act.
 
Well sure. I’m not saying you have to like everything. I just think “indulgent” is shallow criticism. Art is inherently self indulgent. Art is a selfish act.

Well then I thought parts of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood were TOO overly self-indulgent ;) .

Like that Damian Lewis Steve McQueen scene.
 
The McQueen stuff should have been cut I guess but OUATIH is my second fav QT after Jackie Brown. The guy is my fav screenwriter and one of my fav directors but his more mature works are at the top for me. Basterds is number 3. So every third movie this guy makes, he ends up hitting a plateau. In my opinion at least.

It sounds like he has a play to cast, a novel to finish and then he’ll make his final movie. Which will likely be a smaller film compared to OUATIH.
 
I'm almost done with the book. I have to say it really enhances the film by putting us in the heads of Rick and Cliff. Has it been confirmed if some of the additional sequences in the book that weren't in the movie were actually shot? The chapter where Rick and Cliff go to the bar after leaving the Lancer set feels like it was definitely scripted and I know Tarantino has said there's an extended cut coming.
 
There’s two scenes at the end of the novel that definitely where filmed.

Dalton and McQueen sharing a moment in the drive way and Dalton and Trudy practicing lines over the phone.

Also Manson’s extended visit to Sharon’s house.
 
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