Comics Quesada and Straczynski- Excellent job on Spidey!

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Spidey-Fans, you have got to admit, these two have been on quite a role. They took a hyped up, way too powerful for his own good A-lister and return him to the foolish, amateur ability, B-lister we all know he truly is. I mean for the most part, you hear about all the bad these two have done to the character. They supposedly took an every-man character and disenfranchised him from most of his comic book base. Then you hear how they ignored decades of continuity and basically sold out to the countless number of new fans who aren't familiar with the character except for his movie persona. Peter Parker's intelligence has been extremely played down and that Spidey is the whipping boy of the Marvel Universe. My response is "who cares?!!!" He's still one of the most recognizable comic book characters in the world with two successful hit movies. Maybe all that Quesada and Straczynski have done is transformed the character to what he was always meant to be.....a spastic, overly emotional, idiotic dolt of a twenty-something with the ability to receive a beat-down from a girl scout troop on any given day. Everyone knows that Spidey is the “Chandler Bing” of the comic world (we’re talking early “Friends”, before Chandler became cook). My feeling is, if it ain't broke, why fix it? With the sales numbers the comic is receiving nowadays, it's obvious that this is the direction that fans truly want. I mean, not since the days of Doc Samson in the late seventies/early eighties have I seen a character get his butt handed to him on so many occasions. Obviously the recent transformations that Spidey has undergone were actually meant to weaken the character, not make him more powerful (As demonstrated by the butt-kicking he received from Cap in ASM #534). Let's face it folks, possibly Class 20-25 strength, reflexes that are anywhere from 15 to 40 times faster than a normal man (possibly even faster since "The Other"), an enhanced precognitive spider-sense, a costume that provides protection against small arms fire, and ten plus years of fighting experience doesn't mean beans against the pinnacle of human perfection who is a Master of multiple forms of hand-to-hand combat (I wonder who Cap's Sensei was?)

I for one think that these two have finally put Spider-man in the right direction. Well done fellas......Spidey, stay in the B-list crowd where you belong.
 
Nice try Joey Q.

You almost had me there. ;)
 
If you asked me 2 years I'd say JMS was the best thing to happen to Spidey in over a decade....but after Sins Past, The Other and Civil War...I don't think I'll ever subscribe to Spidey again now.
 
humm....There's nothing like that new troll smell :rolleyes:
 
Wow, that would have been funny if it weren't so sad.

Has JQ died yet? I keep waiting. :(
 
Yay!! After 40 years of writing and being in his line of work for almost 15 years, Spider-Man is a amateur again. Yay!!:rolleyes:


If Spider-Man is B-list who is A......Wolverine?


:csad:
 
I think I missed the punchline... that is a joke... right?
 
The eedgit who's looking to get himself heavily flamed said:
My response is "who cares?!!!"

HA! Spend a week on these boards mate, I think you'll find out exactly who cares.


(That's everyone but you incase you didn't get that, you clearly lack brain cells).
 
Who is this guy? How does he have "Newbie" under his name instead of "Registered User"?
 
VuMania, you truly suck ass, joke or not. :up:

8 posts since July 2005. wow. bet this means we're all just in some sort of experiment. nice one.
 
Kool-Aid said:
Yay!! After 40 years of writing and being in his line of work for almost 15 years, Spider-Man is a amateur again. Yay!!:rolleyes:


If Spider-Man is B-list who is A......Wolverine?


:csad:

Hahahahaha!

Yeah, it's Wolverine, Vision, and Yellowjacket.

It's the A-List Everyone! Who does Spidey think he is? *cough*flagshipcharacter*cough*
 
Obviously everyone has their opinion and they are more than welcomed to them. But I have to give Mr. Quesada and Mr. Straczynski credit for ignoring one of the hugest fan bases in comics today, and portraying ol' webhead the way he should be......an inadequate little gimp. I mean c'mon, let examine the "hero's victories" over the last few years:
1) Dr. Octopus...a man who can hold off an entire urban response team with his mechanical arms.
2) Electro....a man who controls one of the fundamental forces in nature
3) Green Goblin.....1/3 Norman Bates with Class 10 strength and gifted intellect
4) Juggernaut......a man who can't be stopped once he walks in a certain direction; has gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk
5) Firelord....former herald of Galactus and a being with enough raw power to destroy a planet
6) Titania......female with strength rivaling the Thing and also held the upper hand on the She-Hulk during their first encounter
7) The entire X-Men squad (a team which included Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Rogue and Cyclops at the time)
8) The Fantastic Four (well, he really didn't defeat the FF, he just held his own against them)
9) Rhino.....another man who stood toe-to-toe with the Hulk
10) Sinister Six....team comprising of Doctor Octopus, the Sandman, Electro, Kraven the Hunter, Mysterio and the Vulture.

Clearly these victories are laughable at best and are easily duplicated by heroes that have been compared to Spidey in a number of chat rooms (Be honest, couldn't you see Daredevil with his Superhuman senses, Olympic athletic ability and martial arts skills defeating the Juggernaut? Don't even get me started on a Captain America match up with Firelord. If Spidey could take him, imagine what a guy like Captain America could do to him). Now granted heroes like Daredevil, Captain America, Wolverine or even that Dark Knight guy don't possess Spidey's speed, strength, agility and Spider Senses, but they do possess an ability that trumps all of Spidey's.......martial arts training. Apparently enough hours breaking boards, kicking or punching heavy bags, doing flips off some vaulting apparatus, executing complex gymnastic maneuvers on the uneven bars or rings and tracking some deer through the woods only to tap it on it's ass, enables these heroes to take down a guy who's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk or the Submariner; A point Quesada and Straczynski are clearly trying to convey.

So for all of you who hope that Spider-man will be returned to the charismatic, smart, capable hero he was in the past.......give it up! Clearly inadequate, simpleton, easily defeatable Spidey is the way to go. Quesada and Straczynski are clearly sold on this idea and we should be also. Back a real hero like Cap.......when was the last time you saw this guy lose a fight? When was the last time Cap was wrong about anything? He clearly represents what's best in America. With enough hard work, dedication, and physiology granted by some chemically induced serum (like steroids), anything is possible.
 
Thread of the Year.
 
This guy is twisted and sick. PERVERT!


:(
 
I would think this thread is meant to be sarcastic.
 
Wow. You guys have no CONCEPT of facetiousness.
 
at last the sarcasm sinks in. all you hada whisper was "im being sarcastic". duh. yeah yeah spidey rules: juggernaut, rhino etc. yay. i've had enough of this thread...
 

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