Batman Begins Question about Batman Begins.

[Strange]

First off let me say that I loved this film, it was by far my favorite Batman movie. The biggest thing that bugged me about the movie was the microwave emmitter or whatever it was called, the thing that voporized an enemies water supply. If the human body is 80% water would that machine kill just about anyone who was around it?

 

[chosen1]

First off let me say that I loved this film, it was by far my favorite Batman movie. The biggest thing that bugged me about the movie was the microwave emmitter or whatever it was called, the thing that voporized an enemies water supply. If the human body is 80% water would that machine kill just about anyone who was around it?

Not saying I have all the answers but this is what I got......


"It uses FOCUS microwaves to vaporize an enemies water supply...











"Crawl, walk, and then run." -- Clay davis

 

[zer00]

You see. There's this magical thing called movie land that's not reality.

 

[Bathead]

I don't recall anyone being in the beam's path long enough for it to do anything other that maybe give them a warm feeling. I would think a person would have to stand directly if front of the device for more than a second or two. That never happened in the movie.
To me it's a non-issue. People are making too much of it.

 

[El Payaso]

Plothole, gentlemen.

 

[chosen1]

I don't recall anyone being in the beam's path long enough for it to do anything other that maybe give them a warm feeling. I would think a person would have to stand directly if front of the device for more than a second or two. That never happened in the movie.
To me it's a non-issue. People are making too much of it.

.... Ras and batman fought around it for a full 7 minutes viewing but most likely 10 - 15 mins.

 

[Cyrusbales]

People are talking about beams of microwaves??? The thing just sent out a shockwave of microwaves, and yes this is a MAJOR flaw in the film, massive plothole, I'm surprised not enough people picked up on it. I was in the cinema thinking, WTF???

 

[Two-Face]

Doesn it really matter? So what who cares, main thing you like the movie or not. jeez

 

[Cyrusbales]

I feel it detracts very much away from the whole 'realism' element that BB fan's rave about.

 

[Bathead]

.... Ras and batman fought around it for a full 7 minutes viewing but most likely 10 - 15 mins.

So? The beam was aimed towards the back of the train, and they were constantly moving and never in the way of the beam for more than a second. One would have to stand still in the path of the beam for much longer than that for it to have an effect.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Do you know how quickly microwaves work? Split seconds makes differences! It's not like a slow process, that's why it's quicker to use than an oven etc....

Also, I think it's funny how people can't admit the flaw in their beloved BB, I mean c'mon, we understand you like the film, but no need to try to justify a problem in it, just say, 'yes they made a cock up'. It's not hard

 

[Bathead]

People are talking about beams of microwaves??? The thing just sent out a shockwave of microwaves, and yes this is a MAJOR flaw in the film, massive plothole, I'm surprised not enough people picked up on it. I was in the cinema thinking, WTF???

Yes, beams. According to the dialog in the movie, it emits focussed beams. And the beams were never trained on anyone long enough to do any harm. It's only a plot hole if you're looking for one.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

this is like superman turning back time by flying around the earth backwards. its there for the drama of it, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Yes, beams. According to the dialog in the movie, it emits focussed beams. And the beams were never trained on anyone long enough to do any harm. It's only a plot hole if you're looking for one.

Microwaves work instantly, so 'no-one in the way long enough' doesn't really work. If it's such a big powerful machine aswell, how come it takes longer than a normal microwave to 'do damage'? That's because they screwed up, simple. Also, normal microwaves actually microwave the surrounding area also, because it's notoriously hard to control the microwaving process, so it fails on two points....

 

[Bathead]

Do you know how quickly microwaves work? Split seconds makes differences! It's not like a slow process, that's why it's quicker to use than an oven etc....

Also, I think it's funny how people can't admit the flaw in their beloved BB, I mean c'mon, we understand you like the film, but no need to try to justify a problem in it, just say, 'yes they made a cock up'. It's not hard

First of all, I really like the movie, it's not beloved, and I'm willing to admit those flaws I see in the film. I really don't see this as major a flaw as you do. I think you and others are blowing it way out of proportion.
Secondly,yes, I do know how quickly they work, and it's not instantaneous. Yes, a microwave oven is quicker than a regular oven, but it still takes time.

 

[Fenrir]

Plothole, gentlemen.

It's not a plothole. The film explicitly makes clear that the machine uses "focus microwaves to vaporize an enemy's water supply."

The film has already explained how exactly the emitter is supposed to work. Comparing whether or not such a technology is plausible enough or not in real-life depends on your own ability (or lack thereof) in drawing parallels between a real universe and an imaginary one.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Time as in miliseconds. Look it up

 

[Fenrir]

I feel it detracts very much away from the whole 'realism' element that BB fan's rave about.

You're a jackass if you think BB is "realistic". Period. The only difference between BB and most superhero origin films is that BB takes great pains in trying to establish and making the title character's super-heroic feats seem plausible in it's own universe so that it appears real enough which consequently results in comparitively less suspension of disbelief for the audience than most other superhero films.

 

[Dope Nose]

also, wouldn't anyone boiling a cup of water have been exposed to the toxin? I mean, shouldn't there have already been a slew of reports about people freaking out long before the Arkham breakout?

 

[Cyrusbales]

You're a jackass if you think BB is "realistic". Period. The only difference between BB and most superhero origin films is that BB takes great pains in trying to establish and making the title character's super-heroic feats seem plausible in it's own universe so that it appears real enough which consequently results in comparitively less suspension of disbelief for the audience than most other superhero films.

Talking in the Burton V Nolan thread a while back, People were saying how BB is better becuase it's realistic, I put in ' ' because that's what they said, not me. So people who consider that a plus side, then must confess to the flaw, either way, there is a problem that is quite apparent.

 

[Fenrir]

Talking in the Burton V Nolan thread a while back, People were saying how BB is better becuase it's realistic, I put in ' ' because that's what they said, not me. So people who consider that a plus side, then must confess to the flaw, either way, there is a problem that is quite apparent.

It's pitiful to see someone make such a big deal out of such a minor and simple inconvenient plot device just because it's not "real" enough even though the film explains perfectly well how it's possible in it's own world.

 

[Cyrusbales]

But it isn't explained, that's the problem....

 

[Fenrir]

Oh and to all you morons who think BB is "realistic" and those of you who think that the microwave emitter isn't "realistic enough", please stop watching superhero films. Because if you do and actually *like* them, then you should shoot yourself in the foot for being a hypocrite for enjoying films that have a vigilante dressed up as a bat, a guy that gets superpowers from getting bitten by a radioactive spider and old dudes that can manipulate magnetism and read people's minds.

 

[Fenrir]

But it isn't explained, that's the problem....

It's not a plothole. The film explicitly makes clear that the machine uses "focus microwaves to vaporize an enemy's water supply."

The film has already explained how exactly the emitter is supposed to work. Comparing whether or not such a technology is plausible enough or not in real-life depends on your own ability (or lack thereof) in drawing parallels between a real universe and an imaginary one.

 

[Cyrusbales]

but why does it not vapourise the water in people? The machine is on and therefore focused, so when someone steps infront of it, they would suffer, that is not explained!