Questions To Raimi that I asked when I was at the filming of SM3 on June 1st

[Jasmine]

The idea that this movie will end with a cliffhanger only to be directed by another filmakers scares me to death. Bryan Singer ended X2 with a cliffhanger and then another director came in and in my opinion did a less than quality job in
ending the story. I now disown the whole X-MEN series because I feel the last one was incredibly lame. I dont want to have to do the same with Spider-Man. Raimi has done such a great job thus far and I do not trust anybody else with the franchise. I hope when he does step aside that he leaves no loose ends.

Shame too, because I enjoyed the first two x-men films and really wanted to love this one. If there is going to be a cliffhanger in SM3, I hope he stays because changing directors would be a big mistake.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

That's what I'm thinking but my senses tell me it's either Man-Wolf or The Black Cat. Remember they had some man-worth prosthetics worked on.

actually sounds quite plausible..or the Lizard...they make sense

 

[Jubba]

Shame too, because I enjoyed the first two x-men films and really wanted to love this one. If there is going to be a cliffhanger in SM3, I hope he stays because changing directors would be a big mistake.

i wonder if singer could do a spider-man flic? though you'd lose all the campiness that raimi brings, which i love...not to mention the almost certain loss of bruce campbell

 

[AnimeJune]

actually sounds quite plausible..or the Lizard...they make sense

Lizard makes sense, Man-Wolf's more obscure so I think he has less of a shot...but Venom only for ten minutes at the end? What the HELL, man? I'm so disappointed.

But I guess I shouldn't be, I suppose - Raimi's said that he never liked Venom as a villain, and a lot of rumours were about how the studio was pressuring him to put him in, so he's doing it half-assed.

 

[Jasmine]

i wonder if singer could do a spider-man flic? though you'd lose all the campiness that raimi brings, which i love...not to mention the almost certain loss of bruce campbell

Much as I like Singer's work I wish he would return to X-Men, but thats not happening because he's tied to Superman now.

 

[The Shape]

Lizard makes sense, Man-Wolf's more obscure so I think he has less of a shot...but Venom only for ten minutes at the end? What the HELL, man? I'm so disappointed.

But I guess I shouldn't be, I suppose - Raimi's said that he never liked Venom as a villain, and a lot of rumours were about how the studio was pressuring him to put him in, so he's doing it half-assed.

i would call it "half-assed". it fits in with the way the story will progress in SM3. it'll be awesome, anyway. so it doesn't really matter.

it's kind of good cause it's not gonna be like VENOMANIA, with the ad campaign. it'll be very secretive, being that he's in the film for such a short time. we'll be sort of surpised, compared to us having seen half of his scene in the trailers, as was the case with GG/Dock Ock.

 

[GoldGoblin]

They should have put XMEN 3 on hold for Bryan Singer to direct after Superman Returns, but thats another whole thread all together

^He would of still made Wolverine the main character again,but I wander if he would of cut out Storm in the movie since him and Halle hated each other.

 

[AnimeJune]

i would call it "half-assed". it fits in with the way the story will progress in SM3. it'll be awesome, anyway. so it doesn't really matter.

it's kind of good cause it's not gonna be like VENOMANIA, with the ad campaign. it'll be very secretive, being that he's in the film for such a short time. we'll be sort of surpised, compared to us having seen half of his scene in the trailers, as was the case with GG/Dock Ock.

I guess - I just think Venom's got great primo villain potential. The movie'd be great, even with him only in it as a 10-minute "oh crap, I dropped the symbiote on Eddie's head" villain, but I think I'd always wonder what might have been.

 

[The Shape]

I guess - I just think Venom's got great primo villain potential. The movie'd be great, even with him only in it as a 10-minute "oh crap, I dropped the symbiote on Eddie's head" villain, but I think I'd always wonder what might have been.

well, we know what might have been. the symbiote story would've have been cut down, and spider-man would just fight venom more than once.

sure, it'd be cool. buti prefer the movie we're getting. we've got a pretty good mix of interesting villians and subplots that will all piece together very nicely. and we've got a pretty good chunk of the film dealing with symbiote spidey.

sounds good to me.

 

[Webzpinner]

Tho I in no way support it, I think the 4th villain could indeed be Cletus Kassidy (Carnage). Just think... Sandman washed down the drain, Harry in custody next to Dr. Lecter, and Brock sentenced to life in prison with Kassidy as a cellmate. The black costume breaks brock out, and Kassidy is staring out into the darkness when a black drop with a tint of red drops on his hand... cut to black

Spidey 4 could verywell be a combo of the two main Carnage stories: Carnage Origin and Maximum Carnage. Kassidy collects a mob of thugs (Shriek, Carrion, a few more) and Spidey is forced to team up with Venom to stop them.

It could be PG-13 by having all deaths off camera. Carnage is no more graphic than the Joker. So him on film wouldn't be a stretch.

 

[James"007"Bond]

^^No no and no. If Venom is onscreen for the alledged 10minutes, why would he be in prison by the end of the movie? Heck, do you honestly think with all that is supposed to go on, Brock will be separated from the symbiot, all this in 1 movie? Absoloutly not. No cassidy. Quite frankly, Sony wouldn't know how to handle the character in a credible way that satisfies the source material and keep the pg13 rating.

"Spidey 4 could verywell be a combo of the two main Carnage stories: Carnage Origin and Maximum Carnage. Kassidy collects a mob of thugs (Shriek, Carrion, a few more) and Spidey is forced to team up with Venom to stop them."

^Not going to happen.

 

[Eelectro 2]

sandman as main villain, harry becomes the goblin the more the movie goes along, venom for last ten minutes, so probably in the last ten minutes we will see him, i certainly hope he duzn't turn and become him and as a quick fight and thats it tho, i'm not too happy about cliffhangers, but in this instance i think it would be neat if done right.

and the mystery mass hysteria villain has got to be somebody they cant' just film on location. it'd be neat for ock to return only cuz it's ock, but it wouldnt' make any sense. my bet is going for rhino, more along the lines of the ultimate version, no actor needed. would be so much better than spidey taking out a few punks like the other movies, that's something it needs. no plot, just a rampage, and a good but short explanation that may lead into the plot of the film

 

[AnimeJune]

^^No no and no. If Venom is onscreen for the alledged 10minutes, why would he be in prison by the end of the movie? Heck, do you honestly think with all that is supposed to go on, Brock will be separated from the symbiot, all this in 1 movie? Absoloutly not. No cassidy. Quite frankly, Sony wouldn't know how to handle the character in a credible way that satisfies the source material and keep the pg13 rating.

"Spidey 4 could verywell be a combo of the two main Carnage stories: Carnage Origin and Maximum Carnage. Kassidy collects a mob of thugs (Shriek, Carrion, a few more) and Spidey is forced to team up with Venom to stop them."

^Not going to happen.

Agreed.

Although it'd be fun to hear Raimi go: "Okay Venom, you have exactly ten minutes to go out and commit a crime that will land you a life sentence.....and GO!" Like a morbid game show.

I don't want Carnage, plus, Sam Raimi's stated that the villain will be a big surprise (and by "surprise", we mean either Lizard or Man-Wolf, who've both appeared in Spidey 2), and Carnage is no surprise considering we have Venom.

I think Carnage will be cut - he's basically the twisted evil Robin to Venom's evil Batman. An annoying villain sidekick, if you will.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What if the fourth villain was Ghost Rider!, Sony own his rights as well.

 

[AnimeJune]

What if the fourth villain was Ghost Rider!, Sony own his rights as well.

Har de har har.

My guesses, and these are based on the strongest rumours I've been hearing so far, are that it will be one of these three: Lizard (Conners appeared in 2), Man-Wolf (Jameson Jr appeared in 2, would probably be bringing symbiote back from space), or Vulture (heard it on a website called the calculator - not as well backed up as the last two, though, and a real shot out of left field.)

 

[Reikowolf]

how much screen time did ock really have in sm 2? I remember some people complaining about that.

 

[TROCK121980]

how much screen time did ock really have in sm 2? I remember some people complaining about that.

I DIDNT KNOW PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS. I THOUGHT HE WAS IN IT FOR A GOOD AMOUNT

 

[Visionary]

i wonder if singer could do a spider-man flic? though you'd lose all the campiness that raimi brings, which i love...not to mention the almost certain loss of bruce campbell

No damn Bryan Singer, please.

 

[AnimeJune]

No damn Bryan Singer, please.

Bryan Singer has his own directorial talents - which may very well benefit for the Superman movie, but not for Spidey.

Spidey's always been the quirky, humourous superhero - thus, he needs the quirky, humourous director: Sam Raimi.

 

[CrashNburn]

I Agree With Anime

 

[Visionary]

Bryan Singer has his own directorial talents - which may very well benefit for the Superman movie, but not for Spidey.

Superman is benefiting from Singer alright, he's making Supes embrace his gayness...

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/LIFE/606050342/1005

 

[David33]

Superman is benefiting from Singer alright, he's making Supes embrace his gayness...

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/LIFE/606050342/1005

Lol,I like this Visionary guy .

I hate Singer.He is overrated as hell and Superman is going to be a huge flop .

 

[AnimeJune]

Superman is benefiting from Singer alright, he's making Supes embrace his gayness...

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/LIFE/606050342/1005

Did you even read the article?

It didn't say Superman was gay, it said that his lifestyle (leading a double life, being an outsider), and the lifestyle of OTHER HEROES can serve as a metaphor for homosexuality. The same could be said for X-Men, or Spider-Man even. Are you seriously put off by that? Bad form.

First, teenage moviegoers, especially those in conservative states, might be put off by a movie carrying a gay vibe; among some teens, these executives agreed, saying something "is gay" is still the ultimate put-down.

Looks like that's still true, Visionary.

I don't see you complaining about the homosexual metaphors put into X-Men and X-men 2, who were also directed by Bryan Singer.

 

[Spidey-Sean]

I thought X-Men was all about the civil rights movement back in the day, but people just apply homosexual ideas to it today because it's more of a prominent, current topic of intrest in today's society.

The thing is, X-Men and Superman and whoever else are probably not trying to have gay metaphors worked into their story, it's just that those metaphors work because the ideas behind these movies are so universal. Leading "double lives" and "intolerance" could work with multiple issues, including homosexuality, so all of this talk about brining in "gay influence" is just a little dumb to me. I don't think one issue is being spotlighted over the other, it's all about what meaning you personally take from the stories.

 

[Visionary]

Yeah, I read the article, and it seems everything he touch turns to gay, lol. Hey, for the record, I love lesbians.