Raimi on venom and sandman!!

[bluedragon77]

hope this hasnt been posted just saw it thought id post it..

http://movies.ign.com/articles/754/754334p1.html


Raimi on Spidey 3 Villains
The skinny on Venom and Sandman!
by Stax




January 10, 2007 - Although director Sam Raimi had to be persuaded by producer Avi Arad to include Venom in Spider-Man 3, the director appears content with the decision. Topher Grace plays Eddie Brock, a.k.a. Venom, in the film opposite Tobey Maguire as Spidey. Thomas Haden Church co-stars as another foe, the Sandman.

"I pretty much enjoyed what [screenwriter] Alvin Sargent did with the writing of [Venom] and what Topher did with the performance of the character, but I'm still kind of waiting," Raimi told WizardUniverse.com. "Maybe when the movie is complete I'll have the fullest understanding of Venom, but I'm still waiting for a little more to come in on him."

In addition to Sargent, Raimi credits Grace with selling him on the character. "He just committed completely to who Eddie Brock was. The character's past developed and justified the actions of the character in the scenes with Peter Parker at The Daily Bugle. He sold out his life in ways that maybe the comic books hadn't needed to, and really developed a real relationship with the characters in the film that made him very complete and human for me."


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Thomas Haden Church as Sandman.


While Venom is a true antagonist, Raimi sees Sandman as "a conflicted villain. He is a real human being that something extraordinary happens to and he has goals that are outside of those goals that are sometimes attributed to movie and comic supervillains. He wants nothing to do with dominating the world or the United States or the government. He really just wants what is best for him and his family. He doesn't consider himself to be a villain necessarily."

Raimi added, "He's just a man struggling to get what he needs. In doing so, he breaks the laws and becomes a villain and because he has these powers, he becomes a supervillain, but like many of us he's wracked with guilt and pain and he fights for what he believes in even though in his case, what he believes in is against the law."

 

[kieron39]

is that the same sandman that was in the comics!? i never really read anything with sandman in the spidey comics. but it sounds good, but i dont like how raimi isnt that confident with venom after filming the movie already

 

[bluedragon77]

yeah but i have faith in him.. the man could probably make a decent street fighter movie and thats sayin something lol. tho i just read this is some of the wizard interview already on here.. sorry folks .

 

[Gonking]

Already posted

 

[Reikowolf]

hmmm that's troubling that raimi is still undecided on venom 100%

but topher should be able to pull it off. They have great writers working on these movies and I'm sure it will show

the whole "sells out" bit leads one to think that venom or at least brock will be much darker than in the comics due to the fact that he will become more 3 dimensional than in other incarnations

Sandman seems like he will be solidly built up tho

 

[Arcturus]

Raimi is just teasing the audience, he truly loves Venom. He's just too shy to show how wrong he was in the past, but it's a mistake that can easily be forgiven.

 

[bluedragon77]

possibly but i think he wants to see it all come together in order to make a decision. but i have faith in the guy and i belive this movie will be the best spiderman yet..

 

[Frenzy]

Raimi should have more respect for Venom as he will be the main reason many watch this film - good old Avi Arad, he's the man

Let's just hope a lot of Venom footage doesn't hit the cutting room floor

I'm expecting a fight sequence that leaves me in a coma with wet pants and a permanent smile - LOL

 

[jim_root_rules]

i agree t:t:

 

[rockportspidey]

is that the same sandman that was in the comics!? i never really read anything with sandman in the spidey comics. but it sounds good, but i dont like how raimi isnt that confident with venom after filming the movie already

Naa, in the comics Sandman was basically a "Sandman tries to rob bank!" kind of villain. He was also a member of the sinster 6 and was a good guy for awhile as well. Raimi's going a different way with Sandman in this movie, and it looks badass!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

maybe when sam said he still does not have a full understanding of venom he could have meant that he still does not know enough about the character yet and when the movie comes out he would decide.

 

[Fran]

This was posted a while ago.

Although it is interesting to see Raimi still conflicted about Venom a bit.

 

[Skywalker88]

thanks for the info!

 

[Josh Bond]

I remember hearing that Sam really did like venom alll along, and that he was just saying that he didn't like the character to hide the fact that venom would be in the film. Whether this is true or not though, i'm not sure.

 

[Reikowolf]

The main reason people watch this film is because both Spidey 1 and 2 were box office grosses

it's the same reason people went to see fast and the furious tokyo drift (I am not a fan of the series)

unlike most superhero movies in the early 90's/ late 80's the focus of spider-man (as well as other new hero movies) is much like the comics, where the focus is on the hero

I know most of you are reading this and thinking "well. duh!"

but the truth is the best example (batman 90's franchise) had little to do with batman himself, most of the screen time and attention went to the villains

whether spidey 3 is good or bad.. the momentum has been built up by both movies and many people will watch it not knowing anything about the plot, just because they enjoyed 1 and 2

the plot in 3 will be a lot different too... more comic book in the sense that it will be the most towards the realm of "fantasy"

that is to say, the situations and characters seem impossible in real life despite their origins/actions being based on science etc.

 

[The Joker]

The main reason people watch this film is because both Spidey 1 and 2 were box office grosses

Are you joking?? I don't agree with that at all. Most people will watch this movie because they liked the previous two, or they've been captivated by the buzz and trailers of this movie. Or both.

Box office take of the previous movies has nothing to do with it.

 

[Reikowolf]

Are you joking?? I don't agree with that at all. Most people will watch this movie because they liked the previous two, or they've been captivated by the buzz and trailers of this movie. Or both.

Box office take of the previous movies has nothing to do with it.

hear me out tho

ask yourself, why were they box office grossing movies??

and there's the connection. Granted, there have been really bad blockbuster movies but at somepoint, someone thought "hey, that might be worth watching"

and I'm sure anyone else who's worked at a theatre knows the costumer who asks "what's good?" and the response is usually (to get them to hurry mostly) "A lot of people are seeing......___________"

 

[Webzpinner]

hear me out tho

ask yourself, why were they box office grossing movies??

and there's the connection. Granted, there have been really bad blockbuster movies but at somepoint, someone thought "hey, that might be worth watching"

and I'm sure anyone else who's worked at a theatre knows the costumer who asks "what's good?" and the response is usually (to get them to hurry mostly) "A lot of people are seeing......___________"

You must be on some new form of crack... lol... Why was the first one a blockbuster, then? Couldn't have been because of the previous one, coz it was first. Wasn't the director who never had a blockbuster before, wasn't the cast of 2nd tier actors, and it sure wasn't Elfman's recycled score... it was coz Spider-Man is the 2nd most identifiable Super Hero worldwide, after Superman (sorry Batfans, you're #3). Spider-Man is one of the few Super Heroes that spans the generations. The 7 times I've seen the Spider-Man movies in theaters, the viewers were male & female, from babies to elders.

Spider-Man resonates with the average joe more than other heroes, coz he's just a kid that still has bills, school, etc. He doesn't live in a mansion or have impervious alien ancestry... he lives in a brownstone in Queens with his Aunt!

The first Spider-Man movie came out at the perfect time too. The USA was still in pain from the 9-11 attack, and a lot of people found comfort in Spider-Man. Not only from his iconic status, but also the strength of character found in the New York of the movie. It was very uplifting. Not to mention the standing ovation at the end of the movie when Spidey was on the flagpole.

#2 did very well in theaters, too. Sequels usually do not make as much as their predecessors, but it held its ground wonderfully. Doc Ock being a sympathetic villain controlled by his waldo arms hurt the character, and weakened the story for many. Also, MJ just looked fugly in #2. The frumpy brown granny dress at the end was hands down the ugliest thing a human could ever wear.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Doc Ock being a sympathetic villain controlled by his waldo arms hurt the character, and weakened the story for many.

Actually, alot of the critical praise was heaped on Molina for his sympathetic, yet menacing portrayl of Doc Ock. Many thought he was the strong point of the movie.

And he was.

Also, MJ just looked fugly in #2. The frumpy brown granny dress at the end was hands down the ugliest thing a human could ever wear.

Well, that is definitely true. She looked very pretty in some scenes, like at the planeterium party, and on the billboards. But then she shows up to the cafe in that horrid dress.

Where did she find it, a salvation army bin??