Rambo

[matrix_ghost]

Tell me then why did Rocky Balboa make 70 million and Rambo only made 40, both of which had terrible last installments? Its because Rocky Balboa had a decent script(predictable but decent) and was received well by critics and the public. The truth is Rambo is cheesy and has terrible dialog and structure.

Wrong.

It's actually because Rocky was an everyman story and people can relate to the underdog scenario. Rambo is a cold bastard, and not only that- but Rambo is seen as a relic of the cold war and the eighties. By contrast Rocky is timeless.

Hey , ratings also play a role dammit.
You guys overanalyse stuff with political mumbo jumbo and connecting to characters.
Rocky was rated PG whereas Rambo is Hard R.


Movies like 300 are unique flicks. They really can't be measure for BO success of similar rated movies. Fact is that R rated movies usually don't make alot of money.

 

[daywalker2007]

unfortunately, with today's mtv audiences and their ****ty tastes,

rambo has suffered

but at least its doing well worldwide

rambo ftw !

 

[steintym]

Box Office does not gauge whether it's good or not, however it can gauge whether or not a film is popular and if people liked it. Now Rambo was well marketed, people knew it was coming, and it opened decently enough and then dropped like a stone. What does that mean? It means people saw it and didn't think it was that good. Now the truth is the violence was great, the script is not any damn good, and as such people didn't feel like spending there money on it. The same goes for Jumper, bad script but great special effects. So again let me repeat if this is so good why did it fail?

Actually, I think the marketing for this movie was not good. Yes, people definitely knew it was coming, but the whole campaign seemed to go after the current MTV generation, a good portion of which weren't around or were too young when Rambo was popular. It didn't bring in that audience and might have turned off the audience they should have been going after.

 

[Lobo]

Saw this this morning 8/10

 

[Evelisse]

saw it today, I liked it.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Also what is going on in Burma is nothing new . People who think this is violent here is a news flash : The movie is alot tamer compared to the atrocities that are happening .

I'm tired of hearing people whimper about the violence. Yeesh!

Agreed. This was a kick ass movie. SO much so, I saw it twice in the theatres.

 

[Dangerous]

Hey , ratings also play a role dammit.
You guys overanalyse stuff with political mumbo jumbo and connecting to characters.
Rocky was rated PG whereas Rambo is Hard R.


Movies like 300 are unique flicks. They really can't be measure for BO success of similar rated movies. Fact is that R rated movies usually don't make alot of money.

Yeah I pointed out earlier in the thread that an R is never going to pull in the same figures as a PG or 12.

 

[Nightmare]

Rambo making 18 million opening weekend was a suprise to me. After that i thought it was already a success.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Saw this while on holiday in Australia, and i normally agree with the critics on movies (especially Empire and Total Film, who both gave this movie 2 stars out of 5), but this is a rare occasion were i disagree with them. I loved this movie, thought it was best in the series other than the first one and feel it is totally underrated.

The only thing i didnt like, and what turned me off the movie a bit, was the violence against kids, i have just become an Uncle for the first time, and was in Australia visiting my new born nephew, so i didnt like the scene's with the violence against kids, i thought it was too much for me, and wish they would have cut it.

But overall, i really enjoyed the movie 8/10 for me.

 

[Dangerous]

I loved the kids getting blown to bits.

I think it really added to the resentment the viewer felt towards the militants.

Plus, it was kinda funny.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I STRONGLY disagree my friend, i didnt find it funny at all, especially when i was cradling my nephew before and after the movie, i just thought it was bit much, and unneccessary.

We know it goes on, no need to show us. But it was the only part of the movie i really disliked.

 

[Hunter Rider]

^I STRONGLY disagree my friend, i didnt find it funny at all, especially when i was cradling my nephew before and after the movie, i just thought it was bit much, and unneccessary.

We know it goes on, no need to show us. But it was the only part of the movie i really disliked.

I understand what you mean but i felt it really drove the point home, i actually found it uncomfortable like you did but i also found the mines in the water running game just as disturbing.

Dangerous you are a sick puppy dude.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I understand what you mean but i felt it really drove the point home, i actually found it uncomfortable like you did but i also found the mines in the water running game just as disturbing.

Dangerous you are a sick puppy dude.

I know exactly what you mean HR, the violence in the whole of the movie was uncomfortable to watch, the violence against the kids just hit home a little too much for me though, it was the only sour point of the movie for me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I know exactly what you mean HR, the violence in the whole of the movie was uncomfortable to watch, the violence against the kids just hit home a little too much for me though, it was the only sour point of the movie for me.

I have to credit Sly with not shying away and Lionsgate with not cutting, the violence was very brutal but never felt like it was just for the sake of it unlike in many of the extremely violent movies these days.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have to credit Sly with not shying away and Lionsgate with not cutting, the violence was very brutal but never felt like it was just for the sake of it unlike in many of the extremely violent movies these days.

Once again i see your point totally, and it was brave of them to leave it in, but as i said, the part with the violence against the kids in particular, just made me completely uncomfortable, and it was the only part of the movie i didnt like.

Loved the rest of it though .

 

[Hunter Rider]

Once again i see your point totally, and it was brave of them to leave it in, but as i said, the part with the violence against the kids in particular, just made me completely uncomfortable, and it was the only part of the movie i didnt like.

Loved the rest of it though .

Oh i understand totally man, i think it's an interesting opposite to the discussion in the Jumper thread where the studio/producer interfered.

 

[bullets]

I know exactly what you mean HR, the violence in the whole of the movie was uncomfortable to watch, the violence against the kids just hit home a little too much for me though, it was the only sour point of the movie for me.

I can see why someone would be uncomfortable with that . It was just done to make an impact . There a certain scenes in movies that can make anyone uneasy . I don't think we should censor anyone from making the film they want to though . As long as no one is getting hurt. Also child abuse or molestion should never be shown on screen . I don't think it would be right to have a child film a scene of that nature . If it has to be alluded to or whatever ok but never actually show something like that . I think filming a death scene is slightly different though. Whne I was a kid i thought it was fun to play dead.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh i understand totally man, i think it's an interesting opposite to the discussion in the Jumper thread where the studio/producer interfered.

It is, i would never discredit a movie studio for letting a director put his full movie out, but my problem with that scene was with Stallone, not the studio. Those scene's were literally the only time (and they were thankfully short) i wasnt enjoying myself watching the movie.

I can see why someone would be uncomfortable with that . It was just done to make an impact . There a certain scenes in movies that can make anyone uneasy . I don't think we should censor anyone from making the film they want to though . As long as no one is getting hurt. Also child abuse or molestion should never be shown on screen . I don't think it would be right to have a child film a scene of that nature . If it has to be alluded to or whatever ok but never actually show something like that . I think filming a death scene is slightly different though. Whne I was a kid i thought it was fun to play dead.

It may have just been my frame of mind at the time, as i mentioned earlier i was over in Australia visiting my first nephew, and absolutely loved him and would kill someone if they hurt him. That probably effected my viewing of that scene. But i still found it a bit too violent, and i dont normally shy away from violence in movies, ever, i especially found the scene of the burmese soldier throwing a very young child into a burning house just too much.

 

[omid17]

Sly needs to direct more action movies

 

[Advanced Dark]

I have to credit Sly with not shying away and Lionsgate with not cutting, the violence was very brutal but never felt like it was just for the sake of it unlike in many of the extremely violent movies these days.

Weren't some seens from the initial footage we got cut out??? I remember one where he gutted the guy in a z shape was seemingly cut out or was it in there.

 

[omid17]

another scene i thought was cut out was when JR ripped some guys throat out

 

[Rac]

another scene i thought was cut out was when JR ripped some guys throat out

No that was there.

 

[Advanced Dark]

It was there but wasn't it less graphic?

 

[omid17]

No that was there.

oh sweet, when is this movie going to come out on dvd and blu ray?

 

[Rac]

It was there but wasn't it less graphic?

Might have been. I remember thinking the same when I saw the movie for the first time. Gotta check the old trailer again. I haven't watched it in months.