Rank and Review all 5 Batfilms.

[Kevin Roegele]

It's gotten to the point that I've seen people now (offline not online ftr) want to take the first 30 years of the character's history and disregard it because it falls out of line with what they like. We all like Batman for different reasons, it limits the appeal if you have such a narrow minded vision of a character with such a rich and varied history. It's also sad cause these people can't understand that cinematic changes have to be made for dramatic purposes or to fall in line with the creative vision. Is no different then going from one writer to another in the comics but film has to recreate the character for a new audience and to see people draw from many points in the mythos to achieve that is admirable as someone who would one day want to pursue a career in film.

But things will always be that way so you just got to do what you do and keep it moving lol. 20 years from now when a new vision is presented I wouldn't be surprised if the kids of that day want to **** on Begins just because it didn't live up to it's fullest potential like every other Batman movie. Just because a lot of changes were made in those 20 years that Batman Begins no longer adheres to. It will always be an excellent Batman movie in it's own way regardless of what they think though same for the first 3 from the other set of Batman movies.

The longer I spend on these boards, the more I recognise there is an elite of posters who really know what they are talking about when it comes to these movies. You, sir, are in that elite.

 

[BubbaGump]

-Batman Begins (9.5/10)
-Batman Returns (9/10)
-Batman (8.5/10)
-Batman Forever (asdfghjkl)
-Batman and Robin (qwertyuiop)

 

[Axtech]

1. Batman Begins (9/10) - With only minor flaws, Nolan did exactly what needed to be done to reinvent the film-medium's take on the dark knight.
2. Batman (9/10) - Not perfect of course, but for it's time it was a great adaptation of the comics, and still stands up as a great movie. Also, Keaton. Need I say more?
3. Batman Returns (7.5/10) - This is a good movie on its own, but with the focus shifted off of Batman, and the decidedly Burtonian atmosphere, it strays a little too far from what the first movie started.
4. Batman Forever (6/10) - Not horrible, but certainly doesn't stand a chance in comparison to either of Burton's movies. There is enough good in the movie to salvage it and make the campy bits bearable, but it's still a disappointing departure from the dark serious nature of Burton's films.
5. Batman and Robin (1/10) - Nipples, ass-shots, one-liners, bad acting, horrible takes on all three villains, campy everything, this movie crosses the line from being a bad superhero movie to feeling like a spoof of a bad superhero movie. A few redeeming points, but what movie doesn't have a few bearable moments? This past weekend I actually sat through this monstrosity for the first time in years, thinking it couldn't possibly be as bad as I remembered. It absolutely was.

 

[Ibn]

You guys realize that Joker is going to completely outshine Batman in the Dark Knight too right? He's colorful and talkative, whereas Batman is dark and quiet? And Batman ain't gonna sell the movie either, the Joker will.

 

[Ibn]

The longer I spend on these boards, the more I recognise there is an elite of posters who really know what they are talking about when it comes to these movies. You, sir, are in that elite.

Indeed. Bravo to that man. Thank god we're not the only ones!

 

[dude stannis]

The longer I spend on these boards, the more I recognise there is an elite of posters who really know what they are talking about when it comes to these movies. You, sir, are in that elite.

Where were you when I was consistently telling everyone the same thing two years ago?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Where were you when I was consistently telling everyone the same thing two years ago?

Community service.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

1º Batman
2º Batman Returns
3º Batman Begins
4º Batman Forever
5º Batman And Robin

 

[Cain]

The longer I spend on these boards, the more I recognise there is an elite of posters who really know what they are talking about when it comes to these movies. You, sir, are in that elite.

Thanks a lot man, I just find it sickening how so many people could consider themselves Batman fans and truly hate any of these movies with an unspoken passion. I'm glad that we have gotten basically a movie representing each era of the character so far, there is something out there for every Bat fan even the ones who like the ultra campy interpretations. I don't think there are any fans of any other superhero as lucky as we are in that respect, I mean we got 5 Batman movies encompassing many different aspects of the mythos and there are even more coming in the future. Could you say that about any other superhero? not even Superman and he's considered the greatest by many although we all know Batman is the best I mean how could you hate on that?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Thanks a lot man, I just find it sickening how so many people could consider themselves Batman fans and truly hate any of these movies with an unspoken passion. I'm glad that we have gotten basically a movie representing each era of the character so far, there is something out there for every Bat fan even the ones who like the ultra campy interpretations. I don't think there are any fans of any other superhero as lucky as we are in that respect, I mean we got 5 Batman movies encompassing many different aspects of the mythos and there are even more coming in the future. Could you say that about any other superhero? not even Superman and he's considered the greatest by many although we all know Batman is the best I mean how could you hate on that?

Exactly my sentiments. The variety in the Batman movie series is something to be treasured, not argued over! Instead of squabbling over Nolan or Burton, we should be glad that they made such different films when given the same subject matter.

 

[CFE]

Not to beg to be recognized in that elite you mentioned, Kevin, but I'd have to agree.

Everytime someone dismisses B&R I shake my head.

It's just as viable an interpretation of Batman as any other; it adds to the history of the character.

Burton covered the gothic romanticism and twisted psychological aspects of Batman.

Schumacher gaves us the broad, bold, heroic and fun aspect of Batman and of comic books.

Nolan gave us a gritty taste of realism and displayd Batman as a man of resource and one who thinks on his feet for situations.

I love each one of the Batman films. I'm not saying they're perfect films (such a thing doesn't exist) but they're all fun and inventive and credible in heir own way.

CFE

 

[Mr. Socko]

Not to beg to be recognized in that elite you mentioned, Kevin, but I'd have to agree.

Everytime someone dismisses B&R I shake my head.

It's just as viable an interpretation of Batman as any other; it adds to the history of the character.

Burton covered the gothic romanticism and twisted psychological aspects of Batman.

Schumacher gaves us the broad, bold, heroic and fun aspect of Batman and of comic books.

Nolan gave us a gritty taste of realism and displayd Batman as a man of resource and one who thinks on his feet for situations.

I love each one of the Batman films. I'm not saying they're perfect films (such a thing doesn't exist) but they're all fun and inventive and credible in heir own way.

CFE

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I love each one of the Batman films. I'm not saying they're perfect films (such a thing doesn't exist) but they're all fun and inventive and credible in heir own way.

CFE

That's why the Batman franchise will outlast all other superhero franchises. Because every few movies, the entire style and approach changes. When audiences are getting bored of other superhero series, Batman keeps recreating itself.

 

[CFE]

That's why the Batman franchise will outlast all other superhero franchises. Because every few movies, the entire style and approach changes. When audiences are getting bored of other superhero series, Batman keeps recreating itself.

Perfectly stated, Kev

Couldn't have said it better.

CFE

 

[Ibn]

That's why the Batman franchise will outlast all other superhero franchises. Because every few movies, the entire style and approach changes. When audiences are getting bored of other superhero series, Batman keeps recreating itself.

Yep. I look at it like this. The five bat movies have been a complete and accurate reflection of the character and his universe as a whole. Burton's Batman was a dark, ruthless, cold blooded bastard, while his Bruce Wayne was brilliant, yet quirky at the same time, just like the Bob Kane; Bill Finger era Bats. Shumacer's Batman was reminiscent of the campy Dick Sprang era up to the TV Show. Just a funny good time (thought the nipples remain unjustifiable). Finally Nolan's Batman represents Denny O'neal; Neal Adams to Jeph Loeb (current continuity) Bats.

And Just for the record, people ***** about how the Joker killing the Waynes was unjustified because around that time the killer had been revealed as Joe Chill. That's completely unfair, because I seriously doubt Nolan would incorporate something as recent as Hush into a movie yet, and that was around seven years ago. So please let it go.

Also, Joel Shumacer is a damn good director. Pretty serious and dark one at that. It pisses me off that the WB recruited him to do Batman and make him lighter for the kiddies. Shumacer could have made a great serious Batman, 8mm style.

Peace

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Yep. I look at it like this. The five bat movies have been a complete and accurate reflection of the character and his universe as a whole. Burton's Batman was a dark, ruthless, cold blooded bastard, while his Bruce Wayne was brilliant, yet quirky at the same time, just like the Bob Kane; Bill Finger era Bats. Shumacer's Batman was reminiscent of the campy Dick Sprang era up to the TV Show. Just a funny good time (thought the nipples remain unjustifiable). Finally Nolan's Batman represents Denny O'neal; Neal Adams to Jeph Loeb (current continuity) Bats.

And Just for the record, people ***** about how the Joker killing the Waynes was unjustified because around that time the killer had been revealed as Joe Chill. That's completely unfair, because I seriously doubt Nolan would incorporate something as recent as Hush into a movie yet, and that was around seven years ago. So please let it go.

Also, Joel Shumacer is a damn good director. Pretty serious and dark one at that. It pisses me off that the WB recruited him to do Batman and make him lighter for the kiddies. Shumacer could have made a great serious Batman, 8mm style.

Peace

If you read the Denny O'Neill/Neal Adams Batman (I mean the character as opposed to the comics), the Val Kilmer version is very much like him, both visually and in behaviour. Their Batman was more talkative, more open to showing his emotions, and an athletic superhero rather than a grim vigilante.

 

[Blader5489]

1) Batman Begins
2) Batman
3) Batman Forever
4) Batman Returns
5) Batman & Robin

 

[Ibn]

If you read the Denny O'Neill/Neal Adams Batman (I mean the character as opposed to the comics), the Val Kilmer version is very much like him, both visually and in behaviour. Their Batman was more talkative, more open to showing his emotions, and an athletic superhero rather than a grim vigilante.

True. But Two Face and Riddler were more like the Sprang era to me. Your right about Bats though.