Rate and Discuss the Transformation!

[Cole Burns]

Man, this is the best question to be put foward in months. I never thought about this before now. I mean the idea of Johnny's skin burning off is horrific but the idea of this skin growing back is just plain disgusting. This could really make for an awesome scene in the film.

 

[The Geek Vault]

I hope they come up with something creative. As for skin melting back, that could work. I think the fire turning into blood which then turns into muscle into skin. Like indiana jones when the blood comes out sorta like that but the fire settles into a face...?

 

[Joker]

I got the melting back idea from something that happend to me actually. I had a pretty bad fall due to a hotels neglegence, in which I scraped my right hand horribly on a cement sidewalk, with myself and a computer moniter on top of them. You could see the muscle on my middle right hand finger, that gives you an idea of how deep it was. Anyway, the way it was ripped open, we couldnt stitch it shut or anything. So I had to just keep it covered until it healed up. Whenever I went to change bandages, you could see what was essentially liquid skin, filling in the holes. It was pretty disgusting, and I think something to that effect would work. Here's my whole idea.

The flame from the back of his skull wraps around his head, and turns into muscle, then from the gaps in the muscle, the liquid skin slowly leaks out and covers him, some dripping off of course. Through it, his hair sticks out, and it then solidifies, and he's back to normal.

 

[Mr Nick]

That's really quite disgusting, Joker. But I like it.

 

[The Geek Vault]

Yeah, I like what your going for Joker. I think the Fire should def. harden into muscle. Cause essentially isn't the fire burning his skin? What I want to see is the eyes! The red dots of fire turn into muscle to the brain (does ghost rider have a brain?) which goes back into eyes. One thing I want to see is GR opening up the jacket, and you see hit heart coming and all internal organs and blood!

 

[FlameHead]

If interested, there is a thread about the Transformation:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146159

Some of us have shared our ideas on this in there.

 

[The Geek Vault]

Does Ghost Rider have internal organs? Like a brain or a heart or kidney's or a live or a spleen or a large or small intestine? Also Does he have five senses. Can he feel touching things. He can see. But can he taste and smell he has no nose or for that matter a tongue.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Ghost Rider has no organs, but his human host does.

He has all 5 senses, but his tolerance for pain is very high. The Ghost Rider in the 90s claimed he had no fear (fear inducing chemicals and toxins had no effect on him, and he has never run from any fight).

Also, he can not feel pain from physical means, but only super natural.

 

[Retroman]

The transformation looks like its borderlining the limits of PG-13.I'm interested what the final result will look like on the big screen. Whatever they choose it looks painfull as hell for Blaze....oh wait it is.

Perhaps we'll see an extended more gory transformation on the dvd?

 

[Ghost Ridin']

The transformation looks like its borderlining the limits of PG-13.I'm interested what the final result will look like on the big screen. Whatever they choose it looks painfull as hell for Blaze....oh wait it is.

Perhaps we'll see an extended more gory transformation on the dvd?

Yeah maybe one were you see the skin boiling and then tearing apart only to reveal that his blood is boiling and starting to evaporate right off his face.

 

[Ghost Ridin']

I would'nt mind seeing his skin ooz out of his eye sockets

Like this

The flames on his head slowly start to weaken until its just the skull then Ghost rider starts screaming trying to stay in control of Blaze's body while you hear blaze trying to fight back then skin starts leaking out of the eye sockets covering all of the skull eventually forming all of the facial features and then the hair and eyes grow back and so forth.
really nasty

 

[xwolverine2]

you people are sick.......

i love it

 

["Iron Man"]

Hmmm...I don't know how MSJ has it set up in the movie....but it'll be interesting to see him turn back into Blaze.

 

[weezerspider]

I got the melting back idea from something that happend to me actually. I had a pretty bad fall due to a hotels neglegence, in which I scraped my right hand horribly on a cement sidewalk, with myself and a computer moniter on top of them. You could see the muscle on my middle right hand finger, that gives you an idea of how deep it was. Anyway, the way it was ripped open, we couldnt stitch it shut or anything. So I had to just keep it covered until it healed up. Whenever I went to change bandages, you could see what was essentially liquid skin, filling in the holes. It was pretty disgusting, and I think something to that effect would work. Here's my whole idea.

The flame from the back of his skull wraps around his head, and turns into muscle, then from the gaps in the muscle, the liquid skin slowly leaks out and covers him, some dripping off of course. Through it, his hair sticks out, and it then solidifies, and he's back to normal.

Great idea. At the end of the transformation, there should be smoke coming rom his hair for a few seconds.

 

[doomreaper X]

I have some sort of idea from The Mask, when Carrey takes it off in the alley. Alright: The flames are beginning to die down as Blaze's personality takes over. The layers of the body begin to reappear, or 'reverse melt', (the muscle grows over the bone, followed by some blood vessels, and evetually the skin) Like what with marvelman418 said, maybe we see inside the jacket as the organs and muscles regenerate. The eyeballs can form, first being all white with the veins showing, and then the eyeballs 'roll' back into view. The hair will come in sometime in between the eyeballs and the skin layers (epidermis, etc.)

 

[doomreaper X]

I already posted in the other thread about the reverse transformation. I think the transformation should be a more graphic version of The Mask, with the eyes rolling up into nothing as the skin seemingly melts off, revealing the pale skull. Cage might be screaming with his head down in his hands as the transformation occurs. He suddenly stops as the process nears completion, standing up straight as his skull bursts into a huge hellborne flame (no fireballs in the sockets). He finishes 'morphing' and gives us a full camera shot of that familiar creepy skeleton grin, the fire burning brightly.

 

[doomreaper X]

Is Ghost Rider a complete skeleton, or is it just his head? Has he ever been shown without certain parts of his outfit (his hands, torso, etc.) I s it just his head that's on fire, or is it his whole body.

 

[doomreaper X]

Is Ghost Rider a complete skeleton, or is it just his head? Has he ever been shown without certain parts of his outfit (his hands, torso, etc.) I s it just his head that's on fire, or is it his whole body.

 

[Mr Nick]

As far as I know, he's a full skeleton. There have been images of him in the comics where his ribs have been showing after getting battered by someone. And in the trailer you see his bony fingers as he zips up his jacket.

 

[Doc D]

Is Ghost Rider a complete skeleton, or is it just his head? Has he ever been shown without certain parts of his outfit (his hands, torso, etc.) I s it just his head that's on fire, or is it his whole body.

His whole body is on fire and he's a complete skeleton.
For reference:
-Ghost Rider 90's-series #42 (where he takes off his leather jacket)
-Marvel Team-up #91 (where he is "displayed" as a carnival attraction)
...presumably there are lots of other references but these two just came to my mind quickest...

 

[not_a_victim]

I'd like to see the reverse melts, but I think the blood/muscles/flesh should come from under his jacket, kinda like the are coming from his center of mass. I would want to see the blood run up his neck, like it was running downhill, only up. Then liquid that turns to muscle follows the blood, then liquid that forms the flesh follows the muscle. I want his eyeballs to kinda roll into their sockets from somewhere deep in his skull, and I want those to be the last things that come into place.

 

[str8raz0r]

I'm thinking something similar to the Horseman's "re-fleshing" in Sleepy Hollow would look pretty slick. Everyone's pretty much describing it, but I think that something like that is a pretty good visual reference.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I think of the way Dracula grew back his skin in Van Helsing, when Frankinstien threw him into the fire. Something like that would be pretty cool.

 

[Chaos Bringer]

I am going to see this no matter what but these SPFX aren't looking that fab in any of the trailers. Is that cuz they're only in prelim stages or is that the final product?

 

[Mr Nick]

Not sure. I think they're OK at the moment, but there's plenty of room for improvement and time enough to do so. The skull still looks a bit off, but I can't quite put my finger on why. Love the flames though. Love 'em.

I'm hoping we'll see an improvement in the second trailer, which should be out next month.