The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rate the NEW ASM2 costume!!!

[Nathan]

But the crew said one of the main purposes they chose that texture was for the 3D and RED camera. The suit's texture and shine wouldn't work well during the day because it's TOO shiny. The colors would seem dull because of the reflecting sunlight, since there appears to be more daylight costume filming, the new suit would need a softer more matte material to compliment the sunlight.

Didn't seem like a big issue during the school scene.

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The suit still has gloss though to really pop from movie lights, you can tell on certain set pics, it has a bit of shine. Add onto that the new suit looks way more comfortable. It won't get as hot, considering it's filmed in the day that would be something to take into account, and it'll be softer on the skin, since you're practically naked inside of it. To be honest there are really only two types of materials that could be used, matte or shiny.

I never complained about the lack or abundance of glossy/shiny textures though. Even taking lighting and comfortability into account, for the change of material, they could have still applied patterns and textures, that make the new costume reminiscent of the TASM costume.

Anything belonging to either of those two catogories would look similar in their own catogory. The reason why they use the little pattern on the red parts of the suit is for texture purposes, to give the suit a bit of depth. Sure it's the same as in Raimi's suit, but you'll never really notice it in the film. Unless the camera zooms in close, but even then, the lighting can make it all seemingly blend together.

Ok, uhm... how can patterns add more depths to a costume, when you say you'll never notice them? If you would have said the raised webbing gives it more depth, then you'd have a case, but from far away the red parts look just like plain fabric. Now that's not a bad thing, but when you see what a great job they did with the reboot costume, it's disappointing they went back to the beginning. The textures on the TASM suit added depth. Even from far away, you could tell it's not some simple plain fabric.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Didn't seem like a big issue during the school scene.

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I never complained about the lack or abundance of glossy/shiny textures though. Even taking lighting and comfortability into account, for the change of material, they could have still applied patterns and textures, that make the new costume reminiscent of the TASM costume.



Ok, uhm... how can patterns add more depths to a costume, when you say you'll never notice them? If you would have said the raised webbing gives it more depth, then you'd have a case, but from far away the red parts look just like plain fabric. Now that's not a bad thing, but when you see what a great job they did with the reboot costume, it's disappointing they went back to the beginning. The textures on the TASM suit added depth. Even from far away, you could tell it's not some simple plain fabric.

It's called subtley, they don't just put the patterns on there to put it on there. It gives the color more pop, since on the red there are tiny lines of slightly darker red. It adds a little "something something" to it.
And why not change the texture of the suit? It looked extremelly uncomfortable and I bet it got really hot. To be honest I could care less about the costume, I don't watch these movies for Spider-Man, I watch them for Peter. He looks like Spider-Man, the cast is different, the tone will be different, the movie in general will be different. The costume looks different enough (with the eyes, ASM spider insignia, shape of the arms being the same as TASM suit) that it won't make me think "Raimi" Spider-Man, but instead just Spider-Man. That's what this suit is, Spider-Man in his purest form. You can nitpick about the texture of the suit, but once you watch the movie you won't care.
Unless you have OCD. "Ugh, slightly raised webbing and Raimiesque red material".

 

[TH29]

Why do people feel the need to say "when you see the movie, you wont care?" yes I will still care about it looking too much like the Raimi suit? will it ruin my enjoyment of the movie? no, probably not. But the movie isnt out for another year and this is a place for discussion is it not? So yeah just cause we are all going to go watch the movie when it comes out, doesnt mean we shouldnt talk about our likes and dislikes of stuff we have seen. Thats the whole point of this place.

 

[chaseter]

ASM2 suit > ASM doodoo stained basketball leather tennis shoes suit.

 

[chaseter]

From far away, you couldn't tell what pattern they used, but it gave the suit a rougher look. Now, it's way too smooth, like it's satin. Well, the red parts at least. Glad the blue doesn't look as smooth.

The pattern they used was straight lines that didn't resemble a spider's webs and made his head look like a basketball.

 

[TH29]

The pattern they used was straight lines that didn't resemble a spider's webs and made his head look like a basketball.

Thats not the pattern anyone is referring to. The patterns most here are referring to is the airbrushed or screened brick "texture" pattern that is seen on the old raimi suit.

 

[chaseter]

Thats not the pattern anyone is referring to. The patterns most here are referring to is the airbrushed or screened brick "texture" pattern that is seen on the old raimi suit.

I wasn't quoting someone talking about the brick pattern on the new suit. He was talking about what it looked like from afar.

If you look at the ASM suit, the blue pattern looks like horizontal lines going across his body and the red pattern they used to resemble 'webs' do not look like webs at all...they are also straight lines going vertical and horizontal with a dot pattern making his head look like a basketball and his torso look like a phallus.

Just utterly pointless design choices.

 

[Spider-Who?]

The screen printed pattern has it's advantages. It allows for the optical illusion of better muscle definition - they can design the pattern to look as if the fabric fits across muscles better, giving the fabric a better sense of depth and form fitting far better than the original texture in the ASM suit.

It makes no difference to me though - I like em both.

 

[Spider-Who?]

If you look at the ASM suit, the blue pattern looks like horizontal lines going across his body and the red pattern they used to resemble 'webs' do not look like webs at all...they are also straight lines going vertical and horizontal with a dot pattern making his head look like a basketball and his torso look like a phallus.

Just utterly pointless design choices.

The choices were anything but pointless, I'm sure. Whether YOU personally like/agree with them is what would be up for debate.

 

[chaseter]

The choices were anything but pointless, I'm sure. Whether YOU personally like/agree with them is what would be up for debate.

No they were pointless. I am sure the people who designed Olestra thought they did the best job EVAR.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

The screen printed pattern has it's advantages. It allows for the optical illusion of better muscle definition - they can design the pattern to look as if the fabric fits across muscles better, giving the fabric a better sense of depth and form fitting far better than the original texture in the ASM suit.

It makes no difference to me though - I like em both.

The new suit looks like it won't have a muscle suit like in Raimi's so it'll appear more slimming and have natural muscle definition. Another thing that'll set it apart.

 

[Spider-Who?]

The new suit looks like it won't have a muscle suit like in Raimi's so it'll appear more slimming and have natural muscle definition. Another thing that'll set it apart.

Not really - fabric like doesn't allow for muscle definition like we see in the comics. That's why we see costumes with fake muscles built in, muscle suits to accentuate, and muscle shading printed straight on the fabric. Agree with your overall point, though.

 

[Spider-Who?]

No they were pointless.

Well, since you obviously know so much about the hundreds of hours spent conceptualizing, designing, discussing, experimenting, and ultimately building costumes, as well as professional artistic knowledge of the human form, movement, lighting and film techniques (and I assume based on your response that you were also present during pre-production), I can do nothing but accept your absoluteness.

I am sure the people who designed Olestra thought they did the best job EVAR.

Olestra? Really? You're comparing a harmful food additive to costume designing?

 

[chaseter]

Olestra wasn't harmful...it made your anus leak.

You can buy one of these since nothing people spent hours and hours designing is pointless:

 

[chaseter]

haha or this!

 

[Smegger56]

Olestra wasn't harmful...it made your anus leak.

You can buy one of these since nothing people spent hours and hours designing is pointless:

lol. Oh chaseter

 

[Whiskey Tango]

The choices were anything but pointless, I'm sure. Whether YOU personally like/agree with them is what would be up for debate.

Isn't it cute the way fanboys act like experts despite having zero background in the technical aspects of costuming and filmmaking?

 

[mayo23]

That's the rule around here!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

That's the rule around here!

Stupid planes. They don't need wings. That's pointless!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Isn't it cute the way fanboys act like experts despite having zero background in the technical aspects of costuming and filmmaking?

Are you discounting our totally wicked comic con costumes!!!

 

[marty mcfly]

The costume sux so much I want to light myself on fire!!!1

Or, maybe I'll just wait until I see how it looks on film and then make a rational judgement based on what Marc Webb actually wants me to see vs. some horrible spy shots taken out of context, with an inferior camera and under incorrect lighting conditions.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Are you discounting our totally wicked comic con costumes!!!

hey I know there are plenty of talented amateur costumers out there. But there are far more film nerds who offer lots of technical-sounding-but-worthless critique that's based on nothing more than "I don't like it"

The costume sux so much I want to light myself on fire!!!1

Or, maybe I'll just wait until I see how it looks on film and then make a rational judgement based on what Marc Webb actually wants me to see vs. some horrible spy shots taken out of context, with an inferior camera and under incorrect lighting conditions.

That... that's crazy talk!

 

[Spider-Who?]

Olestra wasn't harmful...it made your anus leak.

It also robs your body the ability to absorb vitamins from food.

You can buy one of these since nothing people spent hours and hours designing is pointless:

The fact that you're attempting to compare the design efforts of a multi-million dollar film to a ridiculous pillow that looks like someone made on a lonely Friday night is pathetic, man. I'd say you're better than that, but I don't want to give you any undue sense of confidence.

 

[TH29]

The costume sux so much I want to light myself on fire!!!1

Or, maybe I'll just wait until I see how it looks on film and then make a rational judgement based on what Marc Webb actually wants me to see vs. some horrible spy shots taken out of context, with an inferior camera and under incorrect lighting conditions.

or maybe we are judging the hi-res official photo they released that looks like a Photoshopped Raimi costume...

 

[UltimateWebhead]

If a reason has to be spelled out on film, have it be he's trying to raise his public image because the Bugle are turning people against him. This new costume, regardless of complaints, is clearly much friendlier than the dark eyes and slick skin of the last film. So, exposition. He doesn't have Alfred to stand in one spot and tell not show. He does have Gwen though. She knows. Any kid that has a secret that big will need to talk to someone about it. He'll go to Gwen. Maybe she makes it, like in Ultimate (or was that MJ?).

I really like the idea of him changing the costume to help raise his image. The suit with the larger eyes and softer colors would give a better impression of "the friendly neighborhood Spider-man" wouldn't it?

As for the bold, I just started reading the Ultimate series not too long ago and I'm up to issue #20 or #21. Peter gets the Spidey suit from a wrestling promoter with all the colors in place and then Peter slowly adds to the suit things like the spider and the webbing. I'm not sure if he ends up getting another suit later on in the series but it won't be from MJ...she got herself killed by the hulking GG. So...maybe it's Gwen. I dunno. I'll let ya know when I get to that issue