Ratings

[NHawk19]

Interesting read Pat. Wonder if that means anything for the previously rumored DTV for SV.

Honestly though I'm looking forward to the coming onslaught of Superhero themed movies. It brings a whole new dimension to their mythologies, and provides a special effects experience that you can only really get from the big screen. In many cases one may even be able to surmise that fx are the main reason people really go to the theater.

In any case Hollywood seems to continue to be lacking in any original ideas which will boost box office. Seems like just seeing a movie in a theater isnt what it used to be (especially when you figure its a $20 night before you buy the popcorn). If effects are how the bring them in and Superhero movies are the driver I say do it. Unfortunately though they will have to find something else because soon people will begin to expect those kind of things and become complacent.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

last night's numbers:

NOVEMBER 10, 2006
The Programming Insider

Marc Berman

Prime-Time Metered Market Thursday Ratings:
ABC Wins, CBS Solid, Fox Anemic

Thursday 11/09/06
Metered Market Ratings

Household
CBS: 11.1/17, ABC: 10.3/16, NBC: 7.3/11, CW: 3.0/ 4, Fox: 2.7/ 4

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Thursday 11/10/05)
(The CW is compared to the the WB’s combination of Smallville and Everwood)
ABC: +140, NBC: -15, CW: -17, Fox: -18, CBS: -24

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Ugly Betty (ABC), Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), CSI (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
Shark (CBS), ER (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers:
‘Til Death (Fox), The O.C. (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
CBS led the overnight troops on this typical Thursday, with an 8 percent advantage over second-place ABC. But don’t rule out the alphabet net, which is expected to finish first among adults 18-49 once the fast nationals are released. Third in the overnights was NBC, followed by the CW and an anemic Fox, which is home of the fast sinking series in prime time, The O.C.

ABC’s Ugly Betty was down, but certainly not out, with a first-place 9.6/15 in the overnights from 8-9 p.m. CBS’ Survivor: Cook Islands, which is finally beginning to heat up, was second at an also below-average 9.0/14. When the fast nationals are released, however, expect Survivor to dominate in both total viewers and adults 18-49.

Although NBC sitcoms My Name is Earl (#3: 6.0/ 9) and The Office (#3: 5.6/ 8) don’t look like much based on the overnights, both are likely to remain on the map among adults 18-49 once the fast nationals are released (and are posted at www.pifeedback.com at 12 p.m. ET). Fourth in the overnights was the CW’s diluted Smallville (3.5/ 5), followed by two episodes of Fox dud ‘Til Death (8 p.m.: 2.9/ 5; 8:30 p.m.: 3.2/ 5). Apparently, everybody does not love Brad Garrett.

At 9 p.m., the winning overnight ball remained in ABC’s court, with Grey’s Anatomy at a 14.6/21 -- four percent above CBS’ CSI (14.0/20). Expect another horse race in total viewers once the fast nationals are released for the two dramas (and another rock-solid victory among adults 18-49 for Grey’s Anatomy).

NBC’s Deal or No Deal, which is getting ready to wisely exit the Thursday war zone, finished third in the overnights with a 6.5/10, followed by the CW’s Supernatural (2.5/ 4) and…gulp…Fox’s The O.C. (2.3/ 3). Comparably, The O.C. on the year-ago evening (Thursday, Nov. 10, 2005) averaged a 3.8/ 6 in the overnights at 8 p.m. Year-ago failed Thursday 9 p.m. drama Reunion even rated higher at a 2.8/ 4. Word of advice to the residents of Orange County: get those trendy bags packed!

At 10 p.m., CBS’ Shark took center stage in the overnights with a 10.4/16, and improved retention out of CSI of 74 percent. Second was NBC’s ER at a 9.6/15, followed by a repeat of Desperate Housewives at a 6.7/11 (which was an improvement over former occupant Six Degrees). Although ER will dominate among adults 18-49 once the fast nationals are released (and continues to build out of Deal or No Deal), keep in mind that its overnight performance on the year-ago evening (opposite heavy competition from CBS’ Without a Trace) was a stronger 11.0/17. Who said the veteran medical drama is on a roll this season?

Don't forget, for a more detailed analysis using fast national data, go to www.pifeedback.com at 12 p.m., click on Ratings Box (the first category), then Last Night's Results, and Thursday, Nov. 9, 2006.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

 

[avidreader]

What do they mean by diluted?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think by "diluted" they might mean that the show wasnt seen in all of it's markets. With the NHL and NBA in full swing now, in a lot of markets the CW networks show games of those teams and that pre-empts normal programming. That may be the reason why theyre re-airing this episode on Sunday night.

check out this forum for ratings discussion:

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/30710791

 

[avidreader]

^^^ Interesting forum.

 

[04nbod]

anyone know what the green arrow effect has been? Are ratings up on last season? i don't know how to read that ratings jargon

 

[KalKai]

FROM 11/06/06 THROUGH 11/12/06

1) America's Next Top Model -- 5.37 M
2) Smallville -- 4.46 M
3) Gilmore Girls -- 4.34 M
4) Friday Night Smackdown -- 4.33 M
5) 7th Heaven -- 3.62 M
6) One Tree Hill -- 3.56 M
7) Supernatural -- 3.19 M
8) Everybody Hates Chris -- 3.18 M
9) Girlfriends -- 2.92 M
10) The Game -- 2.86 M
11) Veronica Mars -- 2.75 M
12) America's Next Top Model-ENC -- 2.01 M
13) Smallville-11/12 -- 1.63 M

 

[AgentPat]

^ Nice positioning again!


Looks like CW has filled in the Sunday hole left vacant by Runaway:

• For those who care, "Reba'' finally will be back Sunday with new episodes (7 p.m., Ch. 44). The WB comedy initially didn't make the cut for the new CW's fall schedule. But then the new network discovered that because of contractual obligations, it was more expensive to cancel the show than to make 13 more episodes to start burning off at some point. That point has come and, once the series has vanished for good, can someone please find a better show for star Reba McEntire? She really deserves it.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/columnists/16025827.htm

 

[Cmill216]

You know, I have this really amazing concept for The CW, but they'll never listen to me.

 

[Spider-Gamer]

You know, I have this really amazing concept for The CW, but they'll never listen to me.

May I ask what is your concept/idea?

 

[AgentPat]

You know, I have this really amazing concept for The CW, but they'll never listen to me.

Non-stop SV episodes, 24 hours a day? Yes?

No? Awww.... I thought it was a good idea.

 

[Cmill216]

May I ask what is your concept/idea?

Well, in a way:

Supernatural * The Da Vinci Code + Relic Hunters / A Hanna-Barbera classic = My idea

Something like that. I'd go into further detail and post a copy of my four page proposal/outline, but I'm not sure I want to.

 

[Kaboom]

two brothers in search of their missing father stumble across the death of a museum curator who is able to leave messages concerning his death referring to old cartoons like the jetsons and teh Flintstones which could utlimately bring about the end of the world as we know it?

 

[Kaboom]

................and i feel fine.

 

[Spider-Gamer]

two brothers in search of their missing father stumble across the death of a museum curator who is able to leave messages concerning his death referring to old cartoons like the jetsons and teh Flintstones which could utlimately bring about the end of the world as we know it?

Well that is a better concept pitch then, "Hey I got an Idea. How about a plane full of snakes!"

 

[Kaboom]

git these m*tha f*n snakes off the m*tha f*n plane!

 

[RakuMon]

No one's posted the ratings yet? Jeez, even the faithful has turned against the crap that was last night's Smallville.

Prime-Time Metered Market Thursday Ratings:
CBS Wins; NBC’s 30 Rock Stumbles; Solid Barbara Walters on ABC

Thursday 11/16/06
Metered Market Ratings

Household Rating/Share
CBS: 11.8/18, ABC: 11.3/17, NBC: 6.5/10, CW: 3.2/ 5, Fox: 2.8/ 4

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Thursday 11/17/05)
(The CW is compared to the the WB’s combination of Smallville and Everwood)
ABC: +122, CW: -16, Fox: -20, CBS: -22, NBC: -26

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Note: The fast national results for Thursday will be posted at www.pifeedback.com at 12 p.m. ET. Go to the website, click on Ratings Box (the first category), then Last Night’s Results, and Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006. And while you’re there, leave a comment…or two.

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Ugly Betty (ABC), Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), CSI (CBS), Barbara Walters: 30 Mistakes in 30 Years (ABC)

-Yesterday’s Losers:
‘Til Death (Fox), 30 Rock (NBC), The O.C. (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
CBS won the Thursday battle in the overnights, but with only a five-tenth of a rating point (or 4 percent) advantage over second-place ABC expect the alphabet net to dominate among adults 18-49. CBS is likely to finish as the most-watched network. The Thursday debut of NBC’s 30 Rock, meanwhile, was DOA, while Fox was buried in last place -- 12 percent below the CW’s combination of Smallville and Supernatural. As a reminder, the fast national results will be posted at www.pifeedback.com at 12 p.m. ET.

ABC’s Ugly Betty opened the evening for ABC with a first-place 9.5 rating/14 share in the overnights -- two-tenths of a rating point (or two percent) above CBS’ Survivor: Cook Islands (9.3/14). As always, expect Survivor: Cook Islands (which really heated up last night courtesy of the two contestants getting their walking papers) to win in total viewers and adults 18-49. NBC’s competing My Name Is Earl scored a typically modest 6.3/10 (#3) in the overnights in the 8 p.m. half-hour, followed by a 45-minute edition of The Office at an also third-place 6.0/ 9 from 8:30-9:15 p.m. What does NBC really think it is accomplishing by expanding a half-hour show by 15 minutes?

Also at 8 p.m., the CW’s Smallville finished fourth with a so-so 3.6/ 6, followed by two episodes of Fox’s just full season-renewed ‘Til Death (original and repeat) at a 3.2/ 5 in each half-hour. Now that Fox has given ‘Til Death a vote of confidence, how about axing Sunday’s sophomore The War at Home and positioning the more worthy ‘Til Death out of Family Guy?

CBS’ CSI took the top spot in the overnights at 9 p.m., with a 15.3/22 versus a 14.3/21 for ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy. Once the fast nationals are released (and posted you know where – www.pifeedback.com), expect CSI to rule in total viewers with Grey’s Anatomy No. 1 among adults 18-49. As a basis of comparison, CSI on the year-ago evening (Thursday, Nov. 17, 2005) averaged a considerably beefier 19.5/28 in the overnights, while a 9 p.m. edition of ABC’s Primetime Live was almost invisible at a 4.4/ 6.

Over at NBC, the Thursday debut of sitcom 30 Rock fell flat, with a 45-minute edition at a distant third-place 3.7/ 5 from 9:15-10 p.m. Comparably, that declined from lead-in The Office by a significant 29 percent in rating and three share points. More importantly, let’s wait and see how much it dropped among adults 18-49.

Fourth in the overnights at 9 p.m. was the CW’s Supernatural (2.7/ 4), followed by Fox’s The O.C. at a last-place 2.4/ 3. Yes, folks, it is over, finite, kaput for The O.C.

At 10 p.m., CBS’ Shark ranked first in the overnights with a 10.6/17 (31 percent below lead-in CSI – hence its absence from the winner’s listing), but ABC was in the game courtesy of special Barbara Walters: 30 Mistakes in 30 Years, part one, at a solid 10.1/16. Compared to a repeat of Desperate Housewives one week earlier (6.7/11 in the overnights on Nov. 9), this was an improvement of a considerable 51 percent in rating and five share points. Part two of the Barbara Walters special airs tonight at 10 p.m.

Although NBC’s ER was third in the overnights with a below-average 8.8/14, expect the veteran medical drama to still dominate once the fast nationals are released.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp

 

[RakuMon]

One more note about SV's ratings:

Also at 8 p.m. was the CW’s Smallville at a fourth-place 4.76 million viewers and a 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/30210902/p/1

 

[thebigtree95]

from TVGuide -- Smallville (with 4.77 million total viewers) was up about 300,000 week-to-week, while Supernatural held steady at 3.2 mil.

 

[Cmill216]

Fourth in the overnights at 9 p.m. was the CW’s Supernatural (2.7/ 4), followed by Fox’s The O.C. at a last-place 2.4/ 3. Yes, folks, it is over, finite, kaput for The O.C.

*does a happy dance*

 

[Kaboom]

just a general question, what is the number one show out there right now in terms of total viewership?

 

[Cmill216]

just a general question, what is the number one show out there right now in terms of total viewership?

I wanna say Desperate Housewives. Grey's Anatomy and CSI are raping each other's ratings.

 

[Kaboom]

you think sv re-uses plots, think about csi. theres three of them, and theyre all the same show.

 

[RakuMon]

I wanna say Desperate Housewives. Grey's Anatomy and CSI are raping each other's ratings.

I'm pretty sure the biggest show of the season is Dancing w/ the Stars. The numbers have been so potent that ABC is considering putting it up against American Idol next year.

 

[Serene]

you think sv re-uses plots, think about csi. theres three of them, and theyre all the same show.

I've never watched an entire episode of CSI. Isn't there like one for every major city now?

Pretty much every woman I know - socially and professionally - watches Gray's Anatomy and Desperate Housewives. I used to watch Gray's... but quit.. and I tried D.H. It sucks like a Hoover. I don't get it.