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cmill216 said:
I personally think Supernatural is a FAR more consistent series than Smallville. Occassionally you'll get a lame episode where the general A-plot is pretty lame, but the acting and overall look of the episode still manages to do a good enough job, unlike in SV where you'll get an episode like "Static" which makes you want to vomit.

It's a totally different dynamic and it does have its own share of stinkers.

The clown one (Everybody Loves a Clown)? Yikes...

I thought that was barely watchable. No show is perfect...
 
triplet said:
It's a totally different dynamic and it does have its own share of stinkers.

The clown one (Everybody Loves a Clown)? Yikes...

I thought that was barely watchable. No show is perfect...

Well that's what I'm saying. You get an episode like that and it's simply way too generic and not all that interesting of an A-plot. However, then you've got the Ellen/Jo stuff introduced, as well as Dean starting to reach a boiling point, and for me you still have a decent enough episode.

However, we get episodes of SV with huge gaps in logic and continuity, Super Jimmy (;)), and wasted guest stars.

What I will say, though, is that when SV is good, it's good. (ex: "Zod" or "Arrow")
 
I know we don't usually post repeat ratings, but I thought Smallville's numbers last night were pretty darn impressive. Has a Smallville repeat ever netted 3 million viewers (a first run Veronica Mars would kill for those viewers!)? Considering the Thursday at 8 compettition, I'd say Smallville's looking pretty good.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/15510322/p/1

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 11/30/06

Note: The following results are based on the fast national ratings (Live Plus Same Day data)

-Total Viewers:
ABC: 16.49 million, CBS: 13.93, NBC: 10.41, Fox: 4.21, CW: 2.87

-Adults 18-49:
ABC: 5.9 rating/15 share, NBC: 4.7/12, CBS: 4.4/11, Fox: 1.8/ 4, CW: 1.1/ 3

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Ugly Betty (ABC), Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), CSI R (CBS), ER (NBC)

-Honorable Mention:
My Name is Earl (NBC), The Office (NBC)

-Could Be Better/Could Be Worse:
Men In Trees (ABC)

-Disappointing:
Scrubs (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
‘Til Death (Fox), 30 Rock (NBC), The O.C. (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
With two-thirds of CBS’ schedule in repeats, ABC took sole control of Thursday, beating the No. 2 network (CBS in total viewers, NBC among adults 18-49) by 2.56 million viewers and 26 percent among adults 18-49. Fox’s The O.C. remains the fastest collapsing show in prime time, while the CW was in repeats last night.

CBS’ Survivor: Cook Islands (which is finally worth watching, by the way) opened with a dominant 15.54 million viewers and a 5.3 rating/14 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. As good as that is, however, keep in mind that Survivor: Guatemala on the year-ago evening (Dec. 1, 2005) was considerably heftier at 19.81 million viewers and a 7.1/19 among adults 18-49. Is there some way for CBS to keep the franchise fresh?

ABC and NBC tied for the No. 2 and 3 spots in the 8 p.m. hour. ABC’s Ugly Betty was second in total viewers (13.33 million) and third among adults 18-49 (4.1/11); NBC sitcoms My Name is Earl and The Office were third in total viewers (Earl: 10.03 million, The Office: 9.70 million) and second in the demo (Earl: 4.3/12, The Office: 4.6/11 – tied with the second half of Ugly Betty).

Capping off the 8 p.m. hour were two episodes (original and repeat) of Fox dud ‘Til Death (8 p.m.: Viewers: 4.77 million, A18-49: 1.9/ 5 – 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 4.78 million, A18-49: 2.0/ 5), and a repeat of the CW’s Smallville (Viewers: 3.13 million; A18-49: 1.2/ 3).

ABC led the 9 p.m. hour with ease courtesy of a hefty 24.27 million viewers and a 9.6/23 among adults 18-49 for Grey’s Anatomy. Second was a repeat of CBS’ CSI at a still solid 15.88 million viewers and a 5.0/12 among adults 18-49. In season-premiere news, NBC’s veteran Scrubs returned with a lackluster (and distant third-place) 8.45 million viewers and a 3.9/ 9 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that trailed lead-in The Office by 1.25 million viewers and 15 percent among adults 18-49. Recently relocated 30 Rock took a major tumble at 9:30 p.m., meanwhile, with just 6.56 million viewers and a 3.0/ 7 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that trailed lead-in Scrubs by 1.89 million viewers and 23 percent in the demo. Hopefully, Tina Fey kept her ties to Saturday Night Live open.

Also in the 9 p.m. hour was Fox’s begging to be canceled The O.C. (Viewers: 3.65 million; A18-49: 1.6/ 4) and a repeat of the CW”s Supernatural (Viewers: 2.62 million; A18-49: 1.0/ 2). One year earlier, The O.C. on Thursday, Dec. 1, 2005 averaged 5.90 million viewers and a 2.7/ 7 in the demo at 8 p.m.

At 10 p.m., NBC’s veteran ER won the hour with 13.86 million viewers and a 6.0/16 among adults 18-49. Although that’s a decline of 1.58 million viewers and 12 percent in the demo from it’s year-ago delivery (Viewers: 15.44 million; A18-49: 6.8/18 on Dec. 1, 2005), it’s also an improvement over lead-in 30 Rock of 7.30 million viewers and 100 percent in the demo. In other words, ER was a “winner” again last night.

In time period-premiere news, the positive way to look at ABC’s Men in Trees was an improved 11.85 million viewers and a 4.0/10 among adults 18-49, and a second-place finish ahead of a repeat of CBS’ Shark (Viewers: #3, 10.36 million; A18-49: #3, 2.8/ 7). It was also up over the final performance of former occupant Six Degrees (Viewers: 7.40 million; A18-49: 3.1/ 8 on Thursday, Nov. 2, 2006) by 4.45 million viewers and 29 percent in the demo. But, if you really want to look at Men In Trees on Thursday realistically, retention out of lead-in Grey’s Anatomy was just 49 percent in total viewers and 42 percent among adults 18-49, and erosion in the second half-hour was 2.41 million viewers (13.06 to 10.65 million) and 24 percent in the demo (4.5/11 to 3.4/ 9). So, consider this a mixed start for Men in Trees Thursday at 10 p.m.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
 
Sorta on topic... Seems to me Smallville deserves MUCH better than it gets.

Speaking from experience, I never tuned into Smallville before last month... most likely because it was on the WB (CW, whatever) network and I had a negative assumption working about it's programming. I "discovered" SV when my boss recommended it and I rented the first season. I was totally hooked and now OWN Seasons 1 - 5 on DVD.

So here is a show that I had never watched -into it's 6th season - that I now can't miss! I'm sure there are others like me that just don't have a clue what they are missing. What is wrong with this picture!? :csad:
 
Captivated said:
Sorta on topic... Seems to me Smallville deserves MUCH better than it gets.

Speaking from experience, I never tuned into Smallville before last month... most likely because it was on the WB (CW, whatever) network and I had a negative assumption working about it's programming. I "discovered" SV when my boss recommended it and I rented the first season. I was totally hooked and now OWN Seasons 1 - 5 on DVD.

So here is a show that I had never watched -into it's 6th season - that I now can't miss! I'm sure there are others like me that just don't have a clue what they are missing. What is wrong with this picture!? :csad:

Replace season 6 with season 5, and I'm in your exact same boat.
 
Captivated said:
Sorta on topic... Seems to me Smallville deserves MUCH better than it gets.

Speaking from experience, I never tuned into Smallville before last month... most likely because it was on the WB (CW, whatever) network and I had a negative assumption working about it's programming. I "discovered" SV when my boss recommended it and I rented the first season. I was totally hooked and now OWN Seasons 1 - 5 on DVD.

So here is a show that I had never watched -into it's 6th season - that I now can't miss! I'm sure there are others like me that just don't have a clue what they are missing. What is wrong with this picture!? :csad:

I didn't get into it until the third season, so I sorta know what you're talking about. My parents told my wife and I that we should watch it.

It was the best television viewing decision I had ever made.:woot:
 
I can only imagine the type of hit Smallville would be if WB actually sold it to NBC back in 2001. Back when it was screening the pilot, NBC made a big time offer for the show but WB wouldnt deal because they wanted it to be the eventual flagship of the network after the Whedon shows.

WB/CW just dont do it justice with their respective promotions budgets.
 
Captivated said:
Sorta on topic... Seems to me Smallville deserves MUCH better than it gets.

Speaking from experience, I never tuned into Smallville before last month... most likely because it was on the WB (CW, whatever) network and I had a negative assumption working about it's programming. I "discovered" SV when my boss recommended it and I rented the first season. I was totally hooked and now OWN Seasons 1 - 5 on DVD.

So here is a show that I had never watched -into it's 6th season - that I now can't miss! I'm sure there are others like me that just don't have a clue what they are missing. What is wrong with this picture!? :csad:
Interesting. If you have the time, head on over to this thread and let me know what you think. We kind of got into a discussion about "casual viewers" coming over to Smallville and getting hooked. My contention is that a more serialized, over-arching approach to the plot wouldn't be a turn-off to the casual viewer.

Since you (and cmill) are recent convertors, I wonder what your take on it is. Did the standalone FOTW eps help you get into the show, or did you prefer the more serialized aspect of it (the Key, the Caves, the Crystals, etc.)
 
RakuMon said:
Interesting. If you have the time, head on over to this thread and let me know what you think. We kind of got into a discussion about "casual viewers" coming over to Smallville and getting hooked. My contention is that a more serialized, over-arching approach to the plot wouldn't be a turn-off to the casual viewer.

Since you (and cmill) are recent convertors, I wonder what your take on it is. Did the standalone FOTW eps help you get into the show, or did you prefer the more serialized aspect of it (the Key, the Caves, the Crystals, etc.)
I don't know if I'm a good judge... I just know how I usually respond to other shows that are intensely built one upon another (24, LOST, etc)... if I miss the beginning I think, I have to get caught up before I dive in. And if I miss an episode or two I quit and wait for the season to be released on DVD so it doesn't get spoiled. But that's just me (and ironically I've YET to complete a season of either one of those shows, or buy them on DVD, although I meant to).

However, I do love Prison Break and set the recorder to make sure I don't miss an episode... and once hooked on a show I guess that's possible. But I wonder if the sense of missing too much would hinder some people who can't watch every show.

With Smallville I started with season 1 on DVD so there was no missing... in fact, I may be one of the few fans of the show who has watched EVERY episode IN ORDER. :yay:

I liked season 1 (after I just relaxed and accepted the whole "meteor rock [SIZE=-1]phenomeno[/SIZE]n")... that each show had a story that got resolved. BUT the continuing subplots were very important... the character development and relationships that grew and changed. And later when these subplots became more complicated and major storylines took up several episodes... that was interesting too.
 
Looks like CW had its best ratings week of the fall season. Unfortunately, it was a during a week that Smallville was in repeats. Let's hope "Subterranean" can ride the momentum to some good numbers tomorrow night:

From Variety:

CW posts best week yet
'The Office' hits a season high
By RICK KISSELL, RICK KISSELL

Strong showings Monday and Sunday bookended NBC's week as the Peacock notched its second demo victory of the season.

While "Sunday Night Football" and Monday's "Deal or No Deal" and "Heroes" were all big contributors, the net also saw its Thursday comedies and Friday's "Las Vegas" produce.

NBC delivered year-to-year demo gains for the sixth straight week and is up 12% in adults 18-49 through 11 weeks of the season; its rivals are all down by single-digit percentages, according to Nielsen estimates. It was also a good week for the CW, as the newbie net established highs thanks to fall-best ratings for its core skeins.

Overall for the Nov. 27-Dec. 3 frame, the Peacock's 3.7 rating/10 share in adults 18-49 bested ABC (3.5/9), CBS (3.4/9) and Fox (3.2/9), with the latter more competitive than usual thanks to football coverage on its winning Sunday. The CW and Univision tied for fifth (1.5/4).

CBS led in adults 25-54 for the 10th time this season (4.4/11), edging out NBC (4.3/10), while Fox edged out the balanced Peacock for the lead in viewers 12-34 (2.8/9 to 2.7/8).

CBS ruled in total viewers (11.8 million), extending its season-opening winning streak to 11 weeks.

For NBC, "Heroes" (6.8 rating/16 share in adults 18-49, 15.56 million viewers overall) led the way, ranking as the No. 3 show on television in the 18-49 demo -- trailing only ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" and Fox's "House." Show's delivery was its second-best to date.

"Deal or No Deal" also dominated its Monday hour (5.3/13, 17.70m), and the net closed the week with another top-10 finish from "Sunday Night Football" (5.6/14, 15.42m).

Also of note was the net's good showing Thursday with the return of a four-comedy lineup.

"The Office" (4.4/11 in 18-49, 9.07m) hit a season high, building on lead-in "My Name Is Earl" (4.1/11, 9.49m), and "Scrubs" (3.6/9, 7.72m) held up opposite tough competish at 9 with its season premiere. At 9:30, "30 Rock" (2.7/7, 5.97m) did OK.

"ER" led its Thursday hour (5.8/15, 13.36m), and "Las Vegas" hit a season high Friday with a two-hour seg (3.2/10, 10.16m).

The CW delivered its best week yet in adults 18-34 (1.8/5) and total viewers (3.8 million), thanks to some strong perfs on the closing night of sweeps.

Driving the strong week were fall highs for the Tuesday combo of "Gilmore Girls" (2.2/6 in 18-49, 4.89m) and "Veronica Mars" (1.6/4, 3.44m). "Veronica," a third-year drama that had aired previously on UPN, delivered its best ratings ever in adults 18-34 (2.0/5).

There also were season bests on Wednesday for "America's Next Top Model" (2.8/8, 5.73m) and "One Tree Hill" (1.8/5, 4.15m), with the former WB skein logging its best numbers in two seasons.

Net also was high with its Monday laffers, Friday's "WWE Smackdown" (1.5/4 in 18-49, 4.72m) and Sunday's "7th Heaven" (1.6/4, 4.23m).


At ABC, highlights included Thursday's "Grey's Anatomy" (9.5/23 in 18-49, 24.01m), the week's No. 1 primetime program in most categories. Net also was solid on the night at 8 with "Ugly Betty" (4.1/11, 13.02m) and was above average at 10 with "Men in Trees" (3.8/10, 11.34m), making its new-slot debut.

Friday's network preem of "The Polar Express" was a big draw (4.1/12 in 18-49, 13.21m), delivering the best numbers for a theatrical movie on broadcast television since February 2004 ("Shrek" on NBC). Pic did a big 6.4/20 in kids and won in most key ratings categories.

Also, Monday's "Wife Swap" (3.4/9 in 18-49, 8.87m) and "The Bachelor: Rome" (3.9/9, 9.85m) hit season highs, and Tuesday's airing of "A Charlie Brown Christmas" (4.8/13, 13.01m) was a winner. Its lead-out, comedy "Big Day," didn't do much in its premiere, though (2.8/7, 7.55m).

CBS was paced by "CSI: Miami" (5.7/14 in 18-49, 17.13m), "Survivor" (5.4/14, 15.63m) and "CSI: NY" (5.2/14, 17.92m). Also performing above average were "CSI: NY" Wednesday skedmates "Jericho" (3.1/9 in 18-49, 10.25m for its fall finale) and "Criminal Minds" (5.0/13, 17.92m).

And Tuesday's "NCIS" (4.1/11 in 18-49, 17.96m) hit season highs in both adults 25-54 (5.8/14) and total viewers, ranking as the No. 2 program of the week in the latter.

Fox benefited from the concluding 25 minutes of coverage for the late-afternoon Dallas Cowboys-New York Giants game (11.4/33 in 18-49), as the contest averaged 27.6 million viewers overall, making it the week's most watched program. Also Sunday, an 8 o'clock half-hour spec detailing the college football bowl matchups notched a solid 5.4/14 in 18-49.

Entertainment series standouts for the net were "House" (6.9/17, 17.30m), which hit a fall high, and "Prison Break" (4.0/10, 9.62m), which was above average with its fall finale.

ESPN led the primetime cable ratings race thanks to "Monday Night Football" (5.2/13 in 18-49, 12.70m for Seahawks-Packers), while TNT original movie "The Librarian: Return to King Solomon" (2.2/5, 6.17m) was the week's No. 2 cablecast.

Of note on Saturday was Hallmark Channel's original movie "The Christmas Card" (0.8/3 in 18-49, 4.27m), which logged the largest overall aud to date for the net and was the day's most-watched cable program.

On Sunday, ABC Family got its "25 Days of Christmas" off to the best start in its nine-year history thanks to the premiere of "Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban" (1.0/3 in 18-49, 2.83m). Pic propelled the net to its highest-rate day to date in key demos and total viewers.

And on Monday of the current week, TNT's special two-hour seg of drama "The Closer" drew a sizable 5.44 million viewers.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117955128.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
 
Yahoo released its top searches for 2006, and Smallville made the Top Ten in the TV category:

Top 10 TV Show Searches
1American Idol
2Lost
3Days of Our Lives
4Family Guy
5Deal or No Deal
6Grey's Anatomy
7The Simpsons
8Dancing With the Stars
9Smallville
10South Park

http://buzz.yahoo.com/topsearches2006/lists/
 
nice to no i conributed to something important this year... thanks yahoo
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
I can only imagine the type of hit Smallville would be if WB actually sold it to NBC back in 2001. Back when it was screening the pilot, NBC made a big time offer for the show but WB wouldnt deal because they wanted it to be the eventual flagship of the network after the Whedon shows.

WB/CW just dont do it justice with their respective promotions budgets.

I agree with you 100%. I don't live in U.S.A but I see other shows being seriously promoted like Heroes or 24.- Seeing trailers on youtube, heroes own personal site on NBC with interviews, etc.

And Smallville being their top series show on the most competetive night of the night, should more than sufficient reason to give promotion.
 
Here's USA Today's report on the recent success of The CW. Again, this all happened while SV was in reruns.

New CW looks to find firmer footing
By Gary Levin, USA TODAY
The new CW network is seeing renewed momentum after the fall launch proved a ratings disappointment.

When the network, which is a marriage of the now-shuttered WB and UPN, was in the planning stages last summer, executives were confident as they inherited the cream of its predecessors' crop with America's Next Top Model and Everybody Hates Chris joining the ranks of Gilmore Girls, Veronica Mars and 7th Heaven.

"We're hoping one plus one will equal three," CW and former UPN president Dawn Ostroff said at the time. So far, it has equaled less than one: CW has fewer viewers than either WB or UPN did at this time last season, though the new network is up 6% from WB among its target audience of ages 18 to 34.

But last week, Veronica earned its highest ratings ever among that younger group, One Tree Hill had its best showing in nearly a year, and Friday Night Smackdown and top-rated Top Model scored season highs. All four shows have made slight gains over last fall.

"The dust is starting to settle," Ostroff says, noting that many viewers had to find the programs on a new channel. The network is optimistic it could earn a profit this year, following years of combined losses at WB and UPN.

"There were so many elements to putting this network on the map. To expect it to start off (strongly) right away was unrealistic," she says.

She attributes the growth to viewers gradually finding the shows, but the gains also coincide with weaker competition as ABC's Dancing With the Stars ended its season and repeats elsewhere crept in.

"They're probably not doing as well as they wanted to or expected to," says Carat USA media-buying chief Andrew Donchin. "Admittedly, progress is slow, but they're headed in the right direction."

Says Starcom Media research director Sam Armando: "Clearly, this year is about CW building a brand (rather than) a programming lineup that will significantly build an audience. That's why you saw two new programs as opposed to five or six. But now the onus is on developing (new) programs."

Beauty and the Geek, WB's successful reality series, returns Jan. 3; in March, look for reality series The Search for the Next Pussycat Doll and Hidden Palms, a teen drama from Kevin Williamson (Dawson's Creek).

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-12-06-CW-cover_x.htm
 
Last night's "dissappointing" ratings:

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 12/07/06

The following results are based on the fast national ratings (Live Plus Same Day data)

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 18.34 million, NBC: 9.87, ABC: 9.21, Fox: 4.71, CW: 3.84

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 5.9 rating/15 share, NBC: 4.4/12, ABC: 3.1/ 8, Fox: 1.9/ 5, CW: 1.5/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS), CSI (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
My Name Is Earl (NBC), ER (NBC)

-Disappointing:
Smallville (CW), Supernatural (CW)


-Up But Far From Safe for Renewal:
‘Til Death (Fox), The O.C. (Fox)

-Ratings Breakdown:
With Ugly Betty and Grey’s Anatomy in repeats, dominant CBS stood tall with an advantage over ABC of 8.47 million viewers and 34 percent among adults 18-49. NBC moved into second in adults 18-49, while Fox and the CW finished both categories in the distant No. 4 and 5 spots, respectively.

CBS’ Survivor: Cook Islands (which, sadly, lost villain Jonathan last night) opened on a winning note, with 16.61 million viewers and a 5.5 rating/15 share among adults 18-49. Facing a repeat of ABC’s Ugly Betty (Viewers: #3, 8.73 million; A18-49: #3, 2.7/ 7) did not fuel too much extra interest in the aging, but still potent, reality/competition. For comparative purposes, Survivor: Guatemala on the year-ago evening (Thursday, Dec. 8, 2005) averaged 20.21 million viewers and a 7.1/19 in the demo. For those watching this edition of Survivor, how long do you really think the “romance” between Adam and Candice will last?

Over at NBC, two original episodes of My Name Is Earl averaged an improved 10.06 million viewers with a 4.3/12 among adults 18-49 from 8-9 p.m. Two episodes of Fox’s struggling ‘Til Death (repeat and original) had a slight advantage over the CW’s fading Smallville in total viewers (‘Til Death: 4.81 million, Smallville: 4.48 million). Both were tied among adults 18-49, with a 1.8/ 5 in the demo.

At 9 p.m., an original installment of CBS’ CSI (Viewers: #1, 23.72 million, A18-49: #1, 7.9/19) outdelivered a repeat of Grey’s Anatomy on ABC (Viewers: #2, 10.50 million, A18-49: #2, 4.0/10) by a hefty 13.22 million viewers and 97 percent among adults 18-49. Comparably, however, this was still a loss for CSI over it’s year-ago performance (Viewers: 30.95 million, A18-49: 10.6/25 on Dec. 8, 2005) of 7.23 million viewers and 97 percent among adults 18-49.

Although NBC’s Scrubs at 9 p.m. deserves brownie points for 91 percent retention among adults 18-49 out of the 8:30 p.m. installment of lead-in My Name is Earl, 30 Rock at 9:30 p.m. remains the weakest link. Take a look:

NBC/Thursday
8:30 p.m. My Name Is Earl
Viewers: 10.45 million (#2), A18-49: 4.5/12 (#2)

9:00 p.m. Scrubs
Viewers: 8.43 million (#3), A18-49: 4.1/10 (#2)

9:30 p.m. 30 Rock
Viewers: 6.80 million (#3), A18-49: 3.2/ 8 (#3)

To the folks heating up the chat room last room trying to defend 30 Rock, now you really have some splainin’ to do!

Fox’s competing The O.C. perked up, with a fourth-place 4.61 million viewers and a 1.9/ 5 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that built from it’s week-ago performance (Viewers: 3.67 million; A18-49: 1.6/ 4 on Nov. 30, 2006) by 940,000 viewers and 19 percent among adults 18-49. But last year at this time an original installment of The O.C. in the Thursday 8 p.m. hour scored a considerably heftier 5.88 million viewers and a 2.7/ 7 in the demo.

Capping off the hour was the CW’s Supernatural at 3.20 million viewers and a 1.3/ 3 among adults 18-49. Comparably, retention for Supernatural out of Smallville was 71 percent in total viewers and 72 percent among adults 18-49.

At 10 p.m., CBS’ Shark and NBC’s ER shared leadership, with Shark at 14.71 million viewers (#1) and a 4.3/12 among adults 18-49 (#2); and ER at 11.94 million viewers (#2) and a 5.4/14 among adults 18-49 (#1). Comparably, that was a loss for Shark out of CSI of 9.01 million viewers and 46 percent among adults 18-49. On the flipside was ER building from 30 Rock by 5.15 million viewers and 69 percent in the demo.

Without the benefit of an original episode of Grey’s Anatomy, week two of ABC’s competing Men In Trees dipped to a last-place finish in both total viewers (8.39 million) and adults 18-49 (2.7/ 7). One week earlier, Men In Trees debuted in the hour with 11.34 million viewers and a 3.8/10 among adults 18-49. On a more optimistic note for Men In Trees was improved retention of 80 percent in total viewers and 68 percent among adults 18-49 out of the Grey’s Anatomy second-run.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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with all the confusion i'm not surprised- plus the fact the episode was floating between static and hydro
 
That's it. I know many people who watch Smallville that had no idea it was on last night, and now my vhs is getting passed around between people.

Word of mouth should help the show with the Justice League coming up.:woot:
 
With the winter hiatus in force, and not much to talk about in the ratings here, I thought I'd share the ratings that Smallville does in Australia. I often keep an eye on this, just to check its popularity there. Originally they were running it on Thursday nights and it was up against some tough competition, but they moved it to Friday nights and it seems to be doing really well in that time slot. They're also throwing in an extra episode on Monday nights over the Christmas Holiday break.

You're gonna laugh at the numbers when you compare it to America, but they are good numbers when you consider Australia has 20,000,000 people as opposed to the 200 odd million people here in the U.S.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Summer has begun and Smallville has been given an additional timeslot at Monday 7.30, but how has its ratings been fairing up?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When Smallville first returned to channel 10 in late October, its ratings were hovering around 600,000 viewers and strugling to win in any key demographic. But since the premiere of Season 5 Smallville ratings have dramatically improved, winning the all important 16-39 age group with in its time slot, and last week even won the 18-49 age group which is a huge achievement for Smallville.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Season 5 Premiere 7.30 Friday[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TOTAL PEOPLE: 812,000
16-39: 36.6%
18-49: 32.6%
13-17: 54.9%
16-24: 48.7%
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NINE: 1,023,000 (16-39 31.6%) (18-49 32.2%)
SEVEN: 1,183,000 (16-39 31.8%) (18-49 35.1%)
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]First Episode to Air Monday 7.30[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TOTAL PEOPLE: 781,000
16-39: 33.3%
18-49: 29.5%
16-24: 41.5%
13-17: 45.2%
50+: 12.6%
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NINE: 1,236,000 (16-39 38.6%) (18-49 42.2%) (50+ 48.8%)
SEVEN: 887,000 (16-39 28.2%) (18-49 28.3%) (50+ 38.6%)
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A little disapointing, not winning any demographics[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Last Friday 8th of December[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Total People: 787,000
16-39: 45.3%
18-49: 39.6%
13-17: 69.2%
16-24: 55.3%
50+: 12.1%
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NINE: 790,000 (16-39 24.1%) (18-49 26.1%)
SEVEN: 860,000 (30.6%) (34.3%)
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Massive wins in 16-39 and 18-49 in its timeslot also coming 11th for the night in total people.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Last Monday 11th of December[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TOTAL PEOPLE: 825,000
16-39: 38.5%
18-49: 34.9%
13-17: 63.2%
16-24: 52.9%
50+: 17.8%
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NINE: 905,000 (16-39 34.8%) (18-49 36.4%)
SEVEN: 753,000 (16-39 26.7%) (18-49 28.7%)
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Another Timeslot win in 16-39
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avidreader said:
With the winter hiatus in force, and not much to talk about in the ratings here, I thought I'd share the ratings that Smallville does in Australia. I often keep an eye on this, just to check its popularity there. Originally they were running it on Thursday nights and it was up against some tough competition, but they moved it to Friday nights and it seems to be doing really well in that time slot. They're also throwing in an extra episode on Monday nights over the Christmas Holiday break.

You're gonna laugh at the numbers when you compare it to America, but they are good numbers when you consider Australia has 20,000,000 people as opposed to the 200 odd million people here in the U.S.


Cool, good to know it's doing well now that it's back on down under.

I wonder if last year's awesomeness with James Marsters as Fine has anything to do with the season doing better down there?
 
triplet said:
Cool, good to know it's doing well now that it's back on down under.

I wonder if last year's awesomeness with James Marsters as Fine has anything to do with the season doing better down there?

I wouldnt think so, Buffy wasnt that big a deal down there. I think its more to do with the fact that Seasons 1 to 4 were available on DVD, whereas Season 5 hasnt been released as yet.
 
avidreader said:
I wouldnt think so, Buffy wasnt that big a deal down there. I think its more to do with the fact that Seasons 1 to 4 were available on DVD, whereas Season 5 hasnt been released as yet.

I didn't watch Buffy at all, well--- maybe once or twice, so I barely knew who marsters was but his storyline was pure gold and he pulled off Fine so well that he was a pure pleasure to watch.

Well, I'm glad it's doing well, no matter what the cause....

:up:
 
For what it's worth, Smallville's doing okay considering it's in reruns. 3 million ain't bad.
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/77410142

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 12/14/06

The following results are based on the fast national ratings (Live Plus Same Day data)

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 13.25 million, ABC: 8.21, NBC: 7.65, Fox: 4.40, CW: 2.64

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 4.0 rating/11 share, NBC: 3.4/10, ABC: 2.8/ 8, Fox: 1.9/ 5, CW: 1.0/ 3

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS), CSI R (CBS)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
‘Til Death (Fox), The War at Home (Fox), The O.C. (Fox), 30 Rock (NBC)

-Ratings Breakdown:
With more than half of the Thursday schedule in repeats, CBS dominated, beating the No. 2 network (ABC in total viewers, NBC among adults 18-49) by 5.04 million viewers and 18 percent in the demo. Opposite a repeat of ABC’s Ugly Betty, the second-to-last episode of CBS’ Survivor: Cook Islands opened the evening with a winning 14.51 million viewers and a 5.0 rating/14 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. Second was the one-hour holiday installment of NBC’s The Office at 8.48 million viewers and a 3.9/11 among adults 18-49. The Ugly Betty second-run was third at 8.13 million viewers and a 2.5/ 7 in the demo, followed by Fox sitcoms ‘Til Death (Viewers: 4.77 million, A18-49: 2.0/ 6) and The War at Home (Viewers: 4.25 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5), which is being tested on Thursday. Obviously, that was a failing grade!

Last in the 8 p.m. hour was a repeat of the CW’s Smallville at 3.14 million viewers and a 1.2/ 3 among adults 18-49.

In the battle of the 9-10 p.m. repeats, the winning ball was in CBS’ court with CSI at 15.08 million viewers and a 4.3/12 among adults 18-49. Second was ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy second-run at 10.04 million viewers and a 3.7/10 in the demo. As expected, forensic crime solving dramas perform better than shows of a serialized nature in repeats.

Although an original episode of NBC’s Scrubs (Viewers: #3, 7.78 million, A18-49: #2, 3.8/10) managed to finish second among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m., an also original installment of 30 Rock sunk to 5.96 million viewers (#3) and a 2.9/ 8 in the demo at 9:30 p.m. Comparably, that put retention for 30 Rock out of Scrubs of 77 percent in total viewers and 76 percent among adults 18-49. Opposite repeats of CSI and Grey’s Anatomy that should have been better. Sorry fans of 30 Rock, but this is another losing performance.

Also at 9 p.m. was Fox’s fading The O.C. (Viewers: 4.29 million, A18-49: 2.0/ 6), and a repeat of the CW’s Supernatural (Viewers: 2.13 million, A18-49: 0.8/ 2). To the fans of The O.C. clinging to hope, yesterday’s performance was up by 40,000 viewers and 11 percent among adults 18-49 from lead-in The War at Home. But, realistically, this is still not good.

The networks were all in repeats at 10 p.m., with the results as follows:

Shark R (CBS)
Viewers: 10.15 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2)

ER R (NBC)
Viewers: 7.59 million (#2), A18-49: 3.0/ 9 (#1)

Men In Trees R (ABC)
Viewers:
Viewers: 6.47 million (#3), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#3)

Particularly disappointing for Men In Trees was erosion at 10:30 p.m. of 1.38 million viewers (7.16 to 5.78 million) and 22 percent among adults 18-49 (2.6/ 7 to 2.1/ 6).

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
 
That's something I've read in CW Press releases and such, is how well Smallville does for the network even with repeats.

Good to know the interest is kept up. They just need to start advertising the return of the new episodes during the repeats and not just at the end.
 
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